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Re: Trump
« Reply #12020 on: January 24, 2025, 01:30:37 PM »
Are you denying that "male" accurately describes one who produces the "small reproductive cell?"
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« Reply #12021 on: January 24, 2025, 02:50:54 PM »
Are you denying that "male" accurately describes one who produces the "small reproductive cell?"
Define small.  Because both are small to me.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #12022 on: January 24, 2025, 03:15:01 PM »
Are you denying that "male" accurately describes one who produces the "small reproductive cell?"
What about intersex people who can create both reproductive cells?
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« Reply #12023 on: January 24, 2025, 04:18:20 PM »
Are you denying that "male" accurately describes one who produces the "small reproductive cell?"
What about intersex people who can create both reproductive cells?
Well, they need to examine how they were at conception.  Which means every sperm needs to be tracked.
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« Reply #12024 on: January 24, 2025, 07:03:56 PM »
The EO in question removes nothing in regard to workplace protections for anyone. It outlines how the employer (in this case federal agencies) view issues of sexuality and gender.

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« Reply #12025 on: January 24, 2025, 08:19:48 PM »
The EO in question removes nothing in regard to workplace protections for anyone. It outlines how the employer (in this case federal agencies) view issues of sexuality and gender.

Trump said there are two genders. As usual, he's an idiot that is completely wrong, talking about something that he has no knowledge of and took no time to research.
There are dozens of intersex variants that are clearly defined morphologically and genetically.

Trump says they don't exist but they are walking around this planet right now. A lot of them are shooting the finger at Trump.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #12026 on: January 24, 2025, 08:29:31 PM »
Imagine genuinely believing that the democrats did all they could to secure the border and being shocked that former Border Czar Kamala Harris lost the election.

https://www.zerohedge.com/military/deportation-flights-begin-white-house-announces-first-jumbo-jet-illegals-departs-america#google_vignette

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The 'Trump Effect': Migrant encounters at border ports of entry have dramatically declined since Trump took office on Monday. Imagine that—the Biden-Harris regime had the ability all along to slow or stop the migrant invasion but chose not to, suggesting the crisis may have been intentional. The American people must hold the Democratic Party accountable at the ballot box in future elections for years of chaos.

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« Reply #12027 on: January 24, 2025, 08:32:32 PM »
The EO states that for the purposes of the federal workplace there are two genders.

A person can believe what they want to believe.

They will lose no protections in regard to personhood.

1.7 percent of persons worldwide - approximately 153,000,000 people, 5.5 million in the US.
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« Reply #12028 on: January 24, 2025, 09:04:20 PM »
The EO states that for the purposes of the federal workplace there are two genders.

A person can believe what they want to believe.

They will lose no protections in regard to personhood.

1.7 percent of persons worldwide - approximately 153,000,000 people, 5.5 million in the US.

Children born as intersex and their families will no longer be offered medical options to deal with the condition.

Fact: There are three biological genders.
Fact: Trump is an idiot.
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« Reply #12029 on: January 25, 2025, 02:04:38 AM »
Perhaps Kramer is whining about this tidbit:

"(c)  The Attorney General shall ensure that the Bureau of Prisons revises its policies concerning medical care to be consistent with this order, and shall ensure that no Federal funds are expended for any medical procedure, treatment, or drug for the purpose of conforming an inmate’s appearance to that of the opposite sex."

LMMFAO!!!
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« Reply #12030 on: January 25, 2025, 06:24:35 AM »
The EO in question removes nothing in regard to workplace protections for anyone. It outlines how the employer (in this case federal agencies) view issues of sexuality and gender.
A trans man must now use the woman's bathroom.
A manly, hairy, buff person who looks like a man and works for the feds, must now walk into the woman's bathroom and locker room.  Let that sink in.

Imagine genuinely believing that the democrats did all they could to secure the border and being shocked that former Border Czar Kamala Harris lost the election.

https://www.zerohedge.com/military/deportation-flights-begin-white-house-announces-first-jumbo-jet-illegals-departs-america#google_vignette

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The 'Trump Effect': Migrant encounters at border ports of entry have dramatically declined since Trump took office on Monday. Imagine that—the Biden-Harris regime had the ability all along to slow or stop the migrant invasion but chose not to, suggesting the crisis may have been intentional. The American people must hold the Democratic Party accountable at the ballot box in future elections for years of chaos.

Couple of things.
1. People were being deported under Biden and I am 100% sure that plane of 80 illegals didn't get planned and filled by Trump and his policies.  That plane was likely planned weeks in advance, it's occupants already decided.  So unless Trump specifically ordered the border patrol to round up 80 random illegals and fly them within a day, all while getting landing clearance from Guatemala in a few days, this wasn't anything Trump did.

2. Isn't there a polar vortex currently making life hell for Texas?  Also, you do realize that migrant encounters can also mean that more people slipped in in other ways.  Or that the encounters aren't being recorded anymore.
Do you have any actual policy changes that would cause this?  Aside from America officially being too shitty for Mexican illegals?
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« Reply #12031 on: January 25, 2025, 06:32:26 AM »
A trans man must now use the woman's bathroom.
A manly, hairy, buff person who looks like a man and works for the feds, must now walk into the woman's bathroom and locker room.  Let that sink in.
What about using the "family" bathroom?

Let that sink in.
2. Isn't there a polar vortex currently making life hell for Texas?
Not for the dates presented in Tom's chart.
Also, you do realize that migrant encounters can also mean that more people slipped in in other ways.
Possible, but unlikely. 
Or that the encounters aren't being recorded anymore.
"Just stop recording them, already!"

LOL!
Do you have any actual policy changes that would cause this?  Aside from America officially being too shitty for Mexican illegals?
Yeah, 1500 extra persons patrolling the area.

Please fix your post. You quoted Tom twice.
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« Reply #12032 on: January 25, 2025, 08:49:25 AM »
A trans man must now use the woman's bathroom.
A manly, hairy, buff person who looks like a man and works for the feds, must now walk into the woman's bathroom and locker room.  Let that sink in.
What about using the "family" bathroom?
Let that sink in.
If there's one at the building they're working in, sure.  But probably not.

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2. Isn't there a polar vortex currently making life hell for Texas?
Not for the dates presented in Tom's chart.
Also, you do realize that migrant encounters can also mean that more people slipped in in other ways.
Possible, but unlikely. 
Why?

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Or that the encounters aren't being recorded anymore.
"Just stop recording them, already!"

LOL!
I mean... Trump has said that on COVID numbers so... Yeah, that's a possibility.

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Do you have any actual policy changes that would cause this?  Aside from America officially being too shitty for Mexican illegals?
Yeah, 1500 extra persons patrolling the area.

Please fix your post. You quoted Tom twice.
How the fuck did Trump manage to get funding for, hire, and train 1,500 extra people in 1 day?  Or were they on other jobs and he ordered them all to patrol instead of, say... Managing ports?
Huh, maybe that's how he did it.  Instead of 100 lines at a port, there's 6.  Would cut down on migrant encounters at ports of entry.  Also, I just realized, migrant encounters doesn't mean illegals.  It literally means people who want to migrate to the US going into the port of entry.  So that would include legal refugees, asylum seekers, etc...
So honestly, the two most likely reasons are:

1. Not a good day to travel.
2. Less workers at the port.

#2, given, the 1500 extra people in 1 day, is the most likely scenario.


And thanks for letting me know.  Didn't see I quoted twice.
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« Reply #12033 on: January 25, 2025, 08:55:48 AM »
Ok so I did some searching and I can't actually find the data Tom posted.  The earliest the official CBP site has is Late December.  Nothing for January has been posted and certainly not by day.  And the article doesn't say where the data comes from.

So.... Where did it come from?
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« Reply #12034 on: January 25, 2025, 09:37:27 AM »
DoD Statement

I cannot find the exact chart Tom has provided, but maybe it is here.
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« Reply #12035 on: January 25, 2025, 01:26:18 PM »
DoD Statement
Thank you.
So... Does this mean the military made illegals run away?  Or are they patrolling in non-port of entry areas?  Because the article seem to imply they're patrolling but Tom's chart is about migrant encounters AT port of entry, not in the wild.

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I cannot find the exact chart Tom has provided, but maybe it is here.
Also, I did look at the CBP.  They don't have data by day, only by month.
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« Reply #12036 on: January 25, 2025, 01:30:48 PM »
https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/border-communities-react-president-trumps-immigration-executive-orders?utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A%20Trending%20Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwY2xjawIBxPZleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHeLqNYVygBGrr5_DWI3qM4HEYnR9dm-6Uct6MyKzuERTuBvgmODCqcVq8w_aem_m2_2zlFGNmcjl5sqqKwpvQ

Apparently apprehensions have been down 70% since summer due to Biden's work.

"By the numbers:
According to figures from the U.S. Customs and Border Protection, apprehensions decreased by more than 70% in the last six months due to executive orders issued in summer 2024 by then-President Joe Biden, along with the Mexican National Guard cracking down on migrants heading to the United States."
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« Reply #12037 on: January 25, 2025, 04:09:39 PM »
Which EO issued by Biden in the year of 2024 resulted in reduced apprehensions?

Research it and see if any of the EO's listed in 2024 address immigration and/or border security.

There are only 19:
EO 14115
EO 14116
EO 14117
EO 14118
EO 14119
EO 14120
EO 14121
EO 14122
EO 14123
EO 14124
EO 14125
EO 14126
EO 14127
EO 14128
EO 14129
EO 14130
EO 14131
EO 14132
EO 14133
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« Reply #12038 on: January 25, 2025, 05:35:53 PM »
That's what I get for trusting Fox news.

It was a Presidential Proclamation.
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2024/06/07/2024-12647/securing-the-border

Here's an interesting tidbit about the law republicans refused to vote on.

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Critically, the bipartisan legislative proposal included nearly $20 billion in additional resources for DHS and other departments to implement those new authorities, such as:

(a) over 1,500 new U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) personnel, including Border Patrol agents and CBP officers;

1,500 new agents.  The same number of troops Trump just deployed.  Curious, isn't it?  Why would republicans not vote on a bill that does what Trump, apparently, wanted?
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« Reply #12039 on: January 25, 2025, 06:31:18 PM »
Well, considering the issue, it seems the Congress would have preferred Biden to send the troops (who are already sworn to protect and defend the US, and already have the funding) as Trump did.

Why didn't Biden do this?

Why didn't Biden choose to direct funding to the CBJ instead of Ukraine?
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