[Lord Dave]

What is less or more extreme than blowing up your own boat?

I guess you are saying the Deep State is becoming more extreme and more pervasive, almost not shallow.

You'll have to indulge me... Which boat did the deep state blow up?

[Action80]

Remember the Maine?

Pearl Harbor?

[Lord Dave]

Remember the Maine?

Pearl Harbor?

No.  I do not know of The Maine.
But I am aware if Pearl Harbor.

[markjo]

Remember the Maine?

Pearl Harbor?

No.  I do not know of The Maine.
But I am aware if Pearl Harbor.

In 1898, the USS Maine was a battleship docked at the port of Havana when it blew up.  Nobody is quite sure why, but the US figured that it was a good enough reason to start the Spanish-American war.
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/the-maine-explodes

[Tom Bishop]

Greenland's Prime Minister is on board with escaping from the Danish empire - https://www.yahoo.com/news/greenland-leader-wants-independence-denmark-183435953.html

[markjo]

Greenland's Prime Minister is on board with escaping from the Danish empire - https://www.yahoo.com/news/greenland-leader-wants-independence-denmark-183435953.html

But it doesn’t look like he’s interested in Greenland becoming part of the US empire.

[AATW]

Greenland's Prime Minister is on board with escaping from the Danish empire - https://www.yahoo.com/news/greenland-leader-wants-independence-denmark-183435953.html

But it doesn’t look like he’s interested in Greenland becoming part of the US empire.

The article says the exact opposite of what Tom seems to think it says. Reading comprehension has never been his forte

[Tom Bishop]

Considering that you are assuming that I think it says something other than what I stated it said, the reading comprehension problem is squarely on your end.

Greenland's Prime Minister does not comment on Trump's coincidentally recent proposal and gives no indication on whether he wants to accept it. These statements go against the narrative that Greenland will be staying with Denmark. If they do leave, and if you think that a country of 55,000 people want to make it on their own as an independent power, you are foolish.

[Lord Dave]

Considering that you are assuming that I think it says something other than what I stated it said, the reading comprehension problem is squarely on your end.

Greenland's Prime Minister does not comment on Trump's coincidentally recent proposal and gives no indication on whether he wants to accept it. These statements go against the narrative that Greenland will be staying with Denmark. If they do leave, and if you think that a country of 55,000 people want to make it on their own as an independent power, you are foolish.

I think if you feel 55,000 people want to be ruled by America instead of being under Denmark, you're a fool.

[Pete Svarrior]

If they do leave, and if you think that a country of 55,000 people want to make it on their own as an independent power, you are foolish.

Man, you couldn't keep up the "I'm not saying anything at all, dude" schtick for even a single post.

[Tom Bishop]

I just see additional trouble in reading comprehension here. Markjo and AATW both claimed that I misread the article and thought the article was saying that the Greenland PM wants to join the US. This is incorrect, I never thought that about the article. I did not misread anything. However, I believe it is obvious that the Greenland PM wants to join with the US in some manner, which is the biggest western power with interests in the area. This is far more likely than Greenland wanting to become a defenseless island nation in the presence of Russia who are competing for the Arctic resources.

The fact that you guys are focused on me rather than commenting on the event itself is fairly indicative of being in a losing position. It is clear that Trump is starting to win in his geopolitical aims even without being President. In fact, Mexico is also bending the knee.

https://twitter.com/BehizyTweets/status/1875327488253215201

This is also being reported by AP News:

"MEXICO CITY (AP) — Mexico opened the possibility Friday of receiving non-Mexican migrants deported by the United States after initially saying they would push President-elect Donald Trump to return other nationalities directly to their countries of origin."

Mexico previously refused to accept deported immigrants:

[Pete Svarrior]

Broke: Tom thought that Greenland wants to join the US. Silly, sad!
Woke: Tom thought that it is obvious that Greenland wants to join the US. Smart, cool!

[Lord Dave]

Does Tom think "Possibility" is the same as "Definite"?

Also, does Tom think Mexico is gonna detain them and not let them just go cross the border again?  Because that's what they seem to have hinted at with the caravan they "broke up".

[AATW]

The fact that you guys are focused on me rather than commenting on the event itself

There isn't really an event to comment on.

[honk]

I really don't think it's that noteworthy or remarkable that Mexico or any other country is indicating that they want to work with the new president and are willing to change their previous positions to that end. Or, to put it another way, I don't think Mexico changing its position is uniquely conditional on Trump being the president, as if they'd be willing to blow off any other president, but Trump is just such an impressive and fearsome man that Mexico doesn't dare disobey him. America is always a force to be reckoned with in international politics, and the president is always somebody who needs to be taken seriously. There's only so much that world leaders can push back on the president, let alone openly defy him on.

[Lord Dave]

I really don't think it's that noteworthy or remarkable that Mexico or any other country is indicating that they want to work with the new president and are willing to change their previous positions to that end. Or, to put it another way, I don't think Mexico changing its position is uniquely conditional on Trump being the president, as if they'd be willing to blow off any other president, but Trump is just such an impressive and fearsome man that Mexico doesn't dare disobey him. America is always a force to be reckoned with in international politics, and the president is always somebody who needs to be taken seriously. There's only so much that world leaders can push back on the president, let alone openly defy him on.

But with Trump, they can just fool him because he has the attention span of a goldfish.

Trump raged about a caravan.  So mexico broke it up.  Trump claimed it as a win and forgot about the fact that Mexico just broke it up, not stopped them from getting to the border.

Same thing here.  Mexico will promise to do something then just do a show for Trump's ego and not actually accomplish Trump's goal.

[Tom Bishop]

2025 is shaping up to be win after win for Donald Trump. Zelensky is now praising Trump on his efforts for peace.

https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1875998322412199989

This is a contrast to the Joe Biden administration and their sycophants, who have only escalated the situation.

https://www.thenation.com/article/world/biden-escalation-ukraine-betrayal/

[honk]

Again, Trump is the new president. Zelensky doesn't have the luxury of calling Trump out as a Putin lapdog and vowing to defy him. All he can do now is try to flatter Trump so as to hopefully soften the incoming blow. And an unfavorable ending to the war in Ukraine is only "inevitable" because Trump won and will now deliver Ukraine up to Putin on a silver platter. Not because of any sober calculations about the cost of war or as part of any overall geopolitical strategy, but simply because Trump admires Putin and wants to impress him. Every decision that Trump makes is entirely personal. Who has flattered him lately, who does he want to impress lately, who has spent money on him lately? He has virtually no interest in or knowledge of actual policy.

[Tom Bishop]

I just hear more whining. If Trump is getting the support from Zelensky on this, it will be Trump who ultimately gets the credit for peace in Ukraine. People are not going to go to your internet posts and read them and agree with you that the president of Ukraine was forced into it or doesn't know how peace was made. Zelensky will tell them that Trump brokered the peace between Ukraine and Russia. It will be Donald Trump, and not Joe Biden or any other western politician, who gets credit when peace is made.

[honk]

Oh, I have no doubt that it will be Trump who gets the "credit" for handing over to Putin however much of Ukraine he wants.