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« Reply #8260 on: January 09, 2021, 05:56:17 PM »

Give me a good example of socialism as a success.


I already did.

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« Reply #8261 on: January 09, 2021, 07:05:58 PM »
Countries with established socialist policies include your home country, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Canada, Germany, France.......
Britain is not a socialist country. What a bag of nonsense.

I already pre-empted your 'Nordic successes' which are also not socialist countries.

https://reason.com/2018/07/27/sorry-if-youre-offended-but-socialism-le/

Here is the definitive list of socialist countries. Please tell me which one you would like to turn America into.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_socialist_states


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« Reply #8262 on: January 09, 2021, 08:07:38 PM »
So... Why do you have an issue with Sanders, Biden, and other democrats?  If socialism isn't social welfare then there's no problem as no democrat is advocating for communism.
If you are going to DebOOonK an expert then you have to at least provide a source with credentials of equal or greater relevance. Even then, it merely shows that some experts disagree with each other.

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« Reply #8263 on: January 09, 2021, 08:21:46 PM »
So... Why do you have an issue with Sanders, Biden, and other democrats?  If socialism isn't social welfare then there's no problem as no democrat is advocating for communism.

Expecting Thork to actually have substantive knowledge about what Bernie Sanders wants is pretty silly.

Bernie Sanders wants progressive taxation, single payer healthcare and free university. What a monster.
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« Reply #8264 on: January 09, 2021, 08:23:47 PM »
So... Why do you have an issue with Sanders, Biden, and other democrats?  If socialism isn't social welfare then there's no problem as no democrat is advocating for communism.

Socialism is always the trojan horse for communism.

Quote from: Lenin
The goal of socialism is communism.

Or as Marx puts it


Once you are socialist, you are just one move from checkmate.

So... Why do you have an issue with Sanders, Biden, and other democrats?  If socialism isn't social welfare then there's no problem as no democrat is advocating for communism.

Expecting Thork to actually have substantive knowledge about what Bernie Sanders wants is pretty silly.

Bernie Sanders wants progressive taxation, single payer healthcare and free university. What a monster.
He wants other people's money. That's what all communists want.
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« Reply #8265 on: January 09, 2021, 08:26:06 PM »
So... Why do you have an issue with Sanders, Biden, and other democrats?  If socialism isn't social welfare then there's no problem as no democrat is advocating for communism.

Expecting Thork to actually have substantive knowledge about what Bernie Sanders wants is pretty silly.

Bernie Sanders wants progressive taxation, single payer healthcare and free university. What a monster.
He wants other people's money. That's what all communists want.

Lol

See? He has no idea what he is talking about.
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« Reply #8266 on: January 09, 2021, 08:27:58 PM »
So... Why do you have an issue with Sanders, Biden, and other democrats?  If socialism isn't social welfare then there's no problem as no democrat is advocating for communism.

Expecting Thork to actually have substantive knowledge about what Bernie Sanders wants is pretty silly.

Bernie Sanders wants progressive taxation, single payer healthcare and free university. What a monster.
He wants other people's money. That's what all communists want.

Lol

See? He has no idea what he is talking about.

I wish he'd try harder.  He just sounds like an old blowhard.
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« Reply #8267 on: January 09, 2021, 08:33:44 PM »
I wish you'd try harder.

"Socialism isn't the exact definition that it is in the dictionary"
"Socialism will be different this time"
"Socialism is what they have in Denmark"
"The socialists don't actually want socialism"
"Socialism is about being kind"

It is this lazy intellectualism that is why America has voted for these psychopaths and is sleep walking into a dystopia.
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« Reply #8268 on: January 09, 2021, 08:41:47 PM »
I wish you'd try harder.

"Socialism isn't the exact definition that it is in the dictionary"
"Socialism will be different this time"
"Socialism is what they have in Denmark"
"The socialists don't actually want socialism"
"Socialism is about being kind"

It is this lazy intellectualism that is why America has voted for these psychopaths and is sleep walking into a dystopia.

Ok Thork:
Give me a quote or some evidence that Bernie Sanders wants to turn America into a "Government owns everything" country?  The kind of socialism or communism you think it is.
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« Reply #8269 on: January 09, 2021, 09:01:03 PM »
I wish you'd try harder.

"Socialism isn't the exact definition that it is in the dictionary"
"Socialism will be different this time"
"Socialism is what they have in Denmark"
"The socialists don't actually want socialism"
"Socialism is about being kind"

It is this lazy intellectualism that is why America has voted for these psychopaths and is sleep walking into a dystopia.

Ok Thork:
Give me a quote or some evidence that Bernie Sanders wants to turn America into a "Government owns everything" country?  The kind of socialism or communism you think it is.

In 1985, after visiting Nicaragua, he lauded socialist strongman Daniel Ortega and the Sandinistas, saying he was impressed with their “intelligence and sincerity.”
Then there was his 1988 trip to the Soviet Union he praised the Russians.
Sanders refused to condemn Venezuela President Nicolas Maduro as a dictator.
Then he defended Cuba’s Fidel Castro. In an interview with 60 Minutes, he dismissed the notion that Castro was all bad and started banging on about their literacy rate.

He has a long history of cosying up to communists and telling everyone how wonderful they are.

Every one of the countries he has bigged up got wrecked by socialism and/or communism.
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« Reply #8270 on: January 09, 2021, 09:10:43 PM »
Just look at his campaign staff. Here is a video: https://mobile.twitter.com/jamesokeefeiii/status/1217446341674057730?s=21

"BREAKING: Bernie Staffer Kyle Jurek “I’m an Anarcho-communist…I'm as far left as you can possibly get...There’s a lot of me’s in the @BernieSanders campaign...”

Staffer also suggested that the campaign was filled with far leftists.
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« Reply #8271 on: January 09, 2021, 09:12:38 PM »
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« Reply #8272 on: January 09, 2021, 09:57:48 PM »
I wish you'd try harder.

"Socialism isn't the exact definition that it is in the dictionary"
"Socialism will be different this time"
"Socialism is what they have in Denmark"
"The socialists don't actually want socialism"
"Socialism is about being kind"

It is this lazy intellectualism that is why America has voted for these psychopaths and is sleep walking into a dystopia.

Ok Thork:
Give me a quote or some evidence that Bernie Sanders wants to turn America into a "Government owns everything" country?  The kind of socialism or communism you think it is.

In 1985, after visiting Nicaragua, he lauded socialist strongman Daniel Ortega and the Sandinistas, saying he was impressed with their “intelligence and sincerity.”
Then there was his 1988 trip to the Soviet Union he praised the Russians.
Sanders refused to condemn Venezuela President Nicolas Maduro as a dictator.
Then he defended Cuba’s Fidel Castro. In an interview with 60 Minutes, he dismissed the notion that Castro was all bad and started banging on about their literacy rate.

He has a long history of cosying up to communists and telling everyone how wonderful they are.

Every one of the countries he has bigged up got wrecked by socialism and/or communism.

Trump complimented Kim Jong Un, so then by your defintion, he is a communist.
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« Reply #8273 on: January 09, 2021, 10:55:01 PM »
People aren't buying your false outrage and scaremongering libs ::)

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/01/stunning_rasmussen_poll_shows_em_rising_approvalem_of_trump_in_the_wake_of_the_capitol_incursion.html

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Stunning Rasmussen poll shows rising approval of Trump in the wake of the Capitol incursion
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If you believe the media and most Beltway politicians, the entire country is appalled at President Trump and wants him erased from history.  A moral panic is being pushed by the media and other Democrats in the wake of the incursion into the United States Capitol.  It has been persuasive to the media, including many nominal conservatives.  And it may have convinced many Republican politicians that President Trump is now a marginal figure, at best, and should be shunned.

But unless the Rasmussen polling organization suddenly has become inaccurate after being far more accurate than most presidential polls, the mainstream of conservative American, roughly half the country, isn't buying it, and Trump's approval has actually risen.

    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll, Sponsored by SLANTED from Sharyl Attkisson, for Friday shows that 48% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump's job performance. Fifty percent (50%) disapprove.

On the fifth and sixth of January, Trump's total approval figure was 47%.  The movement may be small, but it is the direction that is important.  Far from deserting Trump, the public is staying with him and even increasing approval (within the margin of error).

    The latest figures include 35% who Strongly Approve of the job Trump is doing and 42% who Strongly Disapprove. This gives him a Presidential Approval Index rating of -7. (see trends)

This survey includes the first full night of polling following the events on Wednesday in Washington, DC.

The media and other Democrats don't realize it, but they have so discredited themselves that their attacks on Trump are now working against their own interests.
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« Reply #8274 on: January 09, 2021, 11:14:21 PM »
People aren't buying your false outrage and scaremongering libs ::)


Polls?  Really?  Seems like it's from a super objective source too.

The seditious riot was exactly that and killed 5 people.  Trump and Giuliani and others obviously encouraged it.  It's really sad that you are so deluded that you can't see it.
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« Reply #8275 on: January 09, 2021, 11:44:43 PM »
The seditious riot was exactly that and killed 5 people.  Trump and Giuliani and others obviously encouraged it.  It's really sad that you are so deluded that you can't see it.

you're only saying this because you're desperate. you know trump is super popular and winning all his court cases and is about to be president again. sorry, you're just a desperate liberal who can't see the truth.
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« Reply #8276 on: January 09, 2021, 11:55:43 PM »
Here's how Trump can still win

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« Reply #8277 on: January 10, 2021, 01:51:47 AM »
People aren't buying your false outrage and scaremongering libs ::)

My dude, everyone here is casually goofing on conspiracy theorists while waiting for the 20th to come around because we know that's the only thing that will stop any of y'all from driving this meme train. I could get God Himself to tell you Trump lost and you'd ask him if he has a PhD lol
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« Reply #8278 on: January 10, 2021, 06:45:33 AM »
People aren't buying your false outrage and scaremongering libs ::)

My dude, everyone here is casually goofing on conspiracy theorists while waiting for the 20th to come around because we know that's the only thing that will stop any of y'all from driving this meme train. I could get God Himself to tell you Trump lost and you'd ask him if he has a PhD lol

What are you talking about and what does it have to do with my message?
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« Reply #8279 on: January 10, 2021, 06:57:58 AM »

In 1985, after visiting Nicaragua, he lauded socialist strongman Daniel Ortega and the Sandinistas, saying he was impressed with their “intelligence and sincerity.”
He did.  He was also arguing that, while they are not perfect, Regan should not expect the people to rise up and revolt.  The people in  nicaragua feel different than the people in America.

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Sanders refused to condemn Venezuela President Nicolas Maduro as a dictator.
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/21/bernie-sanders-venezuela-maduro-1179636
He did.  He also refused to say he wasn't a dictator and instead said that the US should not be deciding this shit.  Not interfering except to ensure free and fair elections.  That the people of Venezuela should decide it.  Such a communist....

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Then he defended Cuba’s Fidel Castro. In an interview with 60 Minutes, he dismissed the notion that Castro was all bad and started banging on about their literacy rate.
And health care for children.  Just because you're a dictator doesn't mean you don't do good things.  But the theme I seem to get is "America is trying to justify fucking up other countries just because Communism.  And that's dumb."

And he's not wrong.  How many nations has America "liberated" that it ended well?  I mean, we made Iran from a nice, happy, democratic nation to a theocracy because of it.  And now they are our enemy. 
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