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« Reply #6020 on: July 31, 2020, 01:06:05 AM »
Maybe instead of making stupid tweets about delaying the election Trump should develop a system to ensure mail-in voting is safer than it already is?  Sounds like what a responsible leader might do.

He complained about the voting not being satisfactory in 2016 (at least, until he WON)

He's had 3.5 years to make it safer, but has not.

Why not?

Because it pumps up his drooling supporters to shout "unprecedented voter fraud!", duh
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« Reply #6021 on: July 31, 2020, 02:12:50 AM »
He complained about the voting not being satisfactory in 2016 (at least, until he WON)

The bolded part isn't quite true. Trump claimed that millions of people voted illegally in 2016 to account for his loss of the popular vote, remember? I love the unspoken assumption that the millions of illegal voters all must have voted for Hillary and could therefore just be casually subtracted from her total votes.
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« Reply #6022 on: July 31, 2020, 04:03:29 AM »
He complained about the voting not being satisfactory in 2016 (at least, until he WON)

The bolded part isn't quite true. Trump claimed that millions of people voted illegally in 2016 to account for his loss of the popular vote, remember? I love the unspoken assumption that the millions of illegal voters all must have voted for Hillary and could therefore just be casually subtracted from her total votes.

The number of fraudulent votes he made up even just about matched the number of votes she was ahead of him by. He really might be the biggest narcissist on the planet.
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« Reply #6023 on: July 31, 2020, 04:16:12 AM »
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/30/economy/us-economy-2020-second-quarter/index.html

What some of us might have missed by focusing on Trump's fascist tweet about delaying election day. He still knows how to toss out that ball of yarn.
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« Reply #6024 on: July 31, 2020, 04:28:35 AM »
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/30/economy/us-economy-2020-second-quarter/index.html

What some of us might have missed by focusing on Trump's fascist tweet about delaying election day. He still knows how to toss out that ball of yarn.
The maxwell case was set to unseal documents yesterday as well.  But that got pushed to next week.

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« Reply #6025 on: July 31, 2020, 05:28:30 AM »
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/30/economy/us-economy-2020-second-quarter/index.html

What some of us might have missed by focusing on Trump's fascist tweet about delaying election day. He still knows how to toss out that ball of yarn.
The maxwell case was set to unseal documents yesterday as well.  But that got pushed to next week.

Honestly if Ghislaine Maxwell has some kind of proof that Trump is a perv no amount of distraction will help him. It probably would be the thing that ensures his presidency comes to an end in January.

I'll believe it when I see it.
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« Reply #6026 on: July 31, 2020, 05:54:53 AM »
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/30/economy/us-economy-2020-second-quarter/index.html

What some of us might have missed by focusing on Trump's fascist tweet about delaying election day. He still knows how to toss out that ball of yarn.
The maxwell case was set to unseal documents yesterday as well.  But that got pushed to next week.

Honestly if Ghislaine Maxwell has some kind of proof that Trump is a perv no amount of distraction will help him. It probably would be the thing that ensures his presidency comes to an end in January.

I'll believe it when I see it.

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Honestly, best she might have is 'Oh yeah, Trump knew all about the child slaves but didn't do anything about it'.  Which is damning but I doubt it'lll phase his cult.

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« Reply #6027 on: July 31, 2020, 08:14:45 AM »
He complained about the voting not being satisfactory in 2016 (at least, until he WON)

The bolded part isn't quite true. Trump claimed that millions of people voted illegally in 2016 to account for his loss of the popular vote, remember? I love the unspoken assumption that the millions of illegal voters all must have voted for Hillary and could therefore just be casually subtracted from her total votes.

The number of fraudulent votes he made up even just about matched the number of votes she was ahead of him by. He really might be the biggest narcissist on the planet.
It's stuff like this I don't understand. He makes a claim. Provides zero evidence for it, literally none.
And people just believe it, despite his long history of lying about absolutely everything.
The Trump fans go on about TDS where some people can see nothing good about anything Trump says or does, but there's definitely a different strain of TDS where everything Trump says is defended no matter how batshit crazy or demonstrably false it is.
Fair bit of the evident in this thread.
If you are making your claim without evidence then we can discard it without evidence.

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« Reply #6028 on: August 01, 2020, 06:39:17 PM »
Trump: China is bad because they are a totaltarian nation that controls businesses.

Also Trump: We're gonna ban a business because its from China.

https://www.npr.org/2020/07/31/897752390/microsoft-in-talks-to-buy-teen-fav-tiktok-as-trump-ramps-up-pressure?sc=18&f=1001

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« Reply #6029 on: August 01, 2020, 07:20:14 PM »
Tik Tok’s ban sounds pretty reasonable to me since it seems to just be a massive spyware program for the Chinese government.

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« Reply #6030 on: August 01, 2020, 08:02:24 PM »
Trump: China is bad because they are a totaltarian nation that controls businesses.

Also Trump: We're gonna ban a business because its from China.

https://www.npr.org/2020/07/31/897752390/microsoft-in-talks-to-buy-teen-fav-tiktok-as-trump-ramps-up-pressure?sc=18&f=1001

There is no difference between a Chinese business and the Chinese government, as the government has installed personnel on every Chinese business's board of directors. There's a stark difference between merely regulating businesses versus having the government control them outright.

Also rant time:

I'm still unsure why anyone bothers defending China at this point, considering the government is a totalitarian fascist state engaging in genocide on its own people. It seems that not only do too many people not really care about this, they would actually defend China if it meant being on the opposing side of Trump.

We know that:

1. China is a one-party dictatorship.
2. Engages in genocide of 'undesirable' ethnicities.
3. Fully intends to take over claimed territories, such as most recently Hong Kong, as well as Taiwan and the South China Sea.
4. Uses systems such as the shèhuì xìnyòng tǐxì, which is social credit score designed to oppress its own people and keep them toeing the line.

China should be opposed at all times in all ways. It's a dystopian nightmare state that makes Nazi Germany look tame by comparison.
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« Reply #6031 on: August 01, 2020, 09:22:51 PM »
It seems that not only do too many people not really care about this, they would actually defend China if it meant being on the opposing side of Trump.

Any high-profile examples of this? I watch and read a fair amount of liberal news and have never noticed such a trend.
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« Reply #6032 on: August 01, 2020, 09:59:14 PM »
They've pushed back against Trump's claims that coronavirus was created in a Chinese lab and his insistence on calling it names like "the Chinese virus" or "kung flu," but that's not really defending China so much as it is opposing Trump's embrace of conspiracy theories and casual racism, respectively.
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« Reply #6033 on: August 01, 2020, 11:40:09 PM »
They've pushed back against Trump's claims that coronavirus was created in a Chinese lab and his insistence on calling it names like "the Chinese virus" or "kung flu," but that's not really defending China so much as it is opposing Trump's embrace of conspiracy theories and casual racism, respectively.

Well yeah, there has been some of that. I just don't see anyone defending China's government or it's economic policies, as I felt like was implied by Rushy. In fact this issue with China as a security risk that led to Trump's announcement about TikTok is something both sides of aisle agree is a problem.

The only reason this is really news is that so many people use TikTok. Otherwise I don't think it would even be getting any coverage.
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