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« Reply #4860 on: February 12, 2020, 09:21:15 PM »
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/10/prosecutors-prison-roger-stone-113542

The draining of the swamp continues.

(the very next day) Oh, wow, I guess I spoke too soon:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/barr-takes-control-legal-matters-interest-trump-including-stone-sentencing-n1135231

This is blatant corruption. How anybody can be okay with this is beyond me.

Because Trump is good for America.  So what if he has to directly stop the evil justice department?  They all hate him so its ok.

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« Reply #4861 on: February 12, 2020, 10:39:13 PM »
Three times as many voters in the Iowa caucus than usual, twice as many in the New Hampshire primary... it gives hope that enough Democrats will actually vote in the main election this year to get Trump out. It could be a goddam mandate.

Go Bernie!
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« Reply #4862 on: February 13, 2020, 09:33:09 PM »
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/barr-blasts-trumps-tweets-stone-case-impossible-job/story?id=68963276

lol

Didn't Barr know how loose Trump was with twitter before he accepted the job? He was tweeting sensitive military information, you really think he gives a shit about protecting the discretion of the Justice Department? You make a deal with the devil and you accept the consequences.

Not that I believe Barr for a minute that he hasn't made moves that were politically motivated. That's what makes this particular example of someone in Trump's cabinet whining about how Trump does things so delicious.
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« Reply #4863 on: February 13, 2020, 09:42:46 PM »
Welp, Barr criticized Trump.  Guess we'll need a new AG.

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« Reply #4864 on: February 13, 2020, 09:43:19 PM »
Three times as many voters in the Iowa caucus than usual, twice as many in the New Hampshire primary... it gives hope that enough Democrats will actually vote in the main election this year to get Trump out. It could be a goddam mandate.

Go Bernie!


??? Trump is going to win by a mile. The democrats will eat each other before the election and Pelosi has made them look like a bunch of nut-jobs. What a ghastly witch. Neutral voters will be turned off by the dems ... crazy AOC with her starey eyes, Schiff with his boggley eyes, Sanders with his wild eyes or Biden with his very very old and tired eyes. No one is going to vote Dem if they voted Trump last time. He's only more popular now. Personally, I like his Tweets. Love watching the media squealing and squealing as Trump whips out zinger after zinger. If I was American, I'd vote to Make America Great Again ... because I wouldn't want to betray my country by voting for a communist.
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« Reply #4865 on: February 13, 2020, 09:49:12 PM »
I kinda love it when some of the most opinionated voices are not able to vote. It allows me to keep the spark alive that reason and kindness will be able to keep our nation whole.
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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« Reply #4866 on: February 13, 2020, 11:09:05 PM »
Trump is going to win by a mile.

you spelled bernard wrong

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« Reply #4867 on: February 13, 2020, 11:18:11 PM »
Trump is going to win by a mile.

you spelled bernard wrong
You need to take your greedy eyes off of other people's money.  >:(
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« Reply #4868 on: February 13, 2020, 11:21:21 PM »
Didn't Barr know how loose Trump was with twitter before he accepted the job? He was tweeting sensitive military information, you really think he gives a shit about protecting the discretion of the Justice Department? You make a deal with the devil and you accept the consequences.

Not that I believe Barr for a minute that he hasn't made moves that were politically motivated. That's what makes this particular example of someone in Trump's cabinet whining about how Trump does things so delicious.

Some folks are of the opinion that what Barr really meant was that if Trump would shut up on Twitter, Barr could do his job of making things work in Trump's favour, and bending the rules for him, a lot easier ....
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« Reply #4869 on: February 13, 2020, 11:23:09 PM »
... Pelosi has made them look like a bunch of nut-jobs. What a ghastly witch. Neutral voters will be turned off by the dems ... crazy AOC with her starey eyes, Schiff with his boggley eyes, Sanders with his wild eyes or Biden with his very very old and tired eyes.

Trump is not a picture of perfection, not by a long chalk...
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« Reply #4870 on: February 13, 2020, 11:36:15 PM »
There are far too many libtards and commies on this fourm.

We had purgatory system made specifically for Markjo. Is there any chance we might be able to throw all the communists, Marxists, socialists, Bernie Bros, Corbynites and the Scottish into a board of their own maked 'feral leftists'? Its not fair on the decent folk, that they are forced to mingle with such trash at TFES.
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« Reply #4871 on: February 13, 2020, 11:37:18 PM »
You need to take your greedy eyes off of other people's money.  >:(

that is a funny way to spell my money

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« Reply #4872 on: February 13, 2020, 11:41:46 PM »
fIgHt tHe sYsTeM

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« Reply #4873 on: February 14, 2020, 12:39:04 AM »
Three times as many voters in the Iowa caucus than usual, twice as many in the New Hampshire primary... it gives hope that enough Democrats will actually vote in the main election this year to get Trump out. It could be a goddam mandate.

Go Bernie!


??? Trump is going to win by a mile. The democrats will eat each other before the election and Pelosi has made them look like a bunch of nut-jobs. What a ghastly witch. Neutral voters will be turned off by the dems ... crazy AOC with her starey eyes, Schiff with his boggley eyes, Sanders with his wild eyes or Biden with his very very old and tired eyes. No one is going to vote Dem if they voted Trump last time. He's only more popular now. Personally, I like his Tweets. Love watching the media squealing and squealing as Trump whips out zinger after zinger. If I was American, I'd vote to Make America Great Again ... because I wouldn't want to betray my country by voting for a communist.

I wouldn't rule out the possibility that Trump will get more votes as well. But if this surprising and out-of-character lack of empathy on the part of the Democrats continues, and is consistent nationwide, he won't win. He lost the popular vote to one of the least popular candidates in recent history by 3 million. Imagine if he's up against somebody people actually like, and the Dems come out in force.
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« Reply #4874 on: February 14, 2020, 02:27:00 AM »
Didn't Barr know how loose Trump was with twitter before he accepted the job? He was tweeting sensitive military information, you really think he gives a shit about protecting the discretion of the Justice Department? You make a deal with the devil and you accept the consequences.

Not that I believe Barr for a minute that he hasn't made moves that were politically motivated. That's what makes this particular example of someone in Trump's cabinet whining about how Trump does things so delicious.

Some folks are of the opinion that what Barr really meant was that if Trump would shut up on Twitter, Barr could do his job of making things work in Trump's favour, and bending the rules for him, a lot easier ....

This.  Anyone who thinks Barr is criticizing Trump is being naive.

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« Reply #4875 on: February 14, 2020, 02:49:17 AM »
I thought there was probably an element of "WHAAAT? MEEEE act INAPPROPRIATELY?" in it too. In the midst of criticizing his boss he happens to make it clear this decision about Roger Stone wasn't influenced by Trump, and (lmao) Trump has never actually asked him to do anything inappropriate.

Yeah right lol
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« Reply #4876 on: February 14, 2020, 03:01:03 AM »
Didn't Barr know how loose Trump was with twitter before he accepted the job? He was tweeting sensitive military information, you really think he gives a shit about protecting the discretion of the Justice Department? You make a deal with the devil and you accept the consequences.

Not that I believe Barr for a minute that he hasn't made moves that were politically motivated. That's what makes this particular example of someone in Trump's cabinet whining about how Trump does things so delicious.

Some folks are of the opinion that what Barr really meant was that if Trump would shut up on Twitter, Barr could do his job of making things work in Trump's favour, and bending the rules for him, a lot easier ....

This.  Anyone who thinks Barr is criticizing Trump is being naive.

But really,  you're both saying that he is criticizing Trump. You're saying Barr's saying that Trump should shut the fuck up and just let Barr do his job of covering up his crimes and improprieties. That's clearly a criticism, and it addresses something I'm sure Barr finds exasperating.
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« Reply #4877 on: February 14, 2020, 04:02:41 AM »
There is an edit function, guys. You don't need to make a whole new post two minutes after your previous post if you have something to add.

??? Trump is going to win by a mile. The democrats will eat each other before the election and Pelosi has made them look like a bunch of nut-jobs. What a ghastly witch. Neutral voters will be turned off by the dems ... crazy AOC with her starey eyes, Schiff with his boggley eyes, Sanders with his wild eyes or Biden with his very very old and tired eyes. No one is going to vote Dem if they voted Trump last time. He's only more popular now.

I highly doubt that anyone who kept up with the impeachment proceedings and emerged from it with the opinion that Trump was in the right and/or the Democrats were crazy was anything other than a huge Trump fan or a my-party-right-or-wrong Republican loyalist to begin with. Trump's general level of popularity has fluctuated somewhat over the years, but it's never been especially high, and there is definitely a sizable group of swing voters who could go either way in November, just like there was in 2016. For example, there'll be some people who dislike Trump as a person, but choose to hold their nose and vote for him because they like how the economy's going, or there'll be people who voted for him last time out of concerns over Hillary and her supposed corruption, but can't bring themselves to do it this time around.

Incidentally, I think it's the height of hypocrisy that Trump fans sneer so vigorously at Bernie and Biden for declining in their old age while refusing to acknowledge Trump's obvious mental and physical deterioration over the last few years. He's considerably fatter than he was when he took office, appears to struggle with simple tasks like taking a drink of water and climbing a set of stairs, and goes on incoherent, deranged rants at the slightest provocation during rallies or interviews/press conferences - the latter of which are growing increasingly rare, cutting down on access to the president considerably. Combine that with the fact that at least two of the doctors who assured us that Trump was in excellent health have since been revealed to be wholly compromised and untrustworthy, and the one or two abrupt hospital visits the White House has offered sketchy explanations for, and, well, Trump fans decided that Hillary was secretly dying in 2016 based on a lot less than all this.

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Personally, I like his Tweets. Love watching the media squealing and squealing as Trump whips out zinger after zinger.

That is an incredibly immature reason to support him, and so is the related notion that if the media and the establishment and so on all hate him, it means he's doing something right and should be supported. It's how edgy teenagers see the world, not adults.
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« Reply #4878 on: February 15, 2020, 12:53:56 AM »
Didn't Barr know how loose Trump was with twitter before he accepted the job? He was tweeting sensitive military information, you really think he gives a shit about protecting the discretion of the Justice Department? You make a deal with the devil and you accept the consequences.

Not that I believe Barr for a minute that he hasn't made moves that were politically motivated. That's what makes this particular example of someone in Trump's cabinet whining about how Trump does things so delicious.

Some folks are of the opinion that what Barr really meant was that if Trump would shut up on Twitter, Barr could do his job of making things work in Trump's favour, and bending the rules for him, a lot easier ....

This.  Anyone who thinks Barr is criticizing Trump is being naive.

But really,  you're both saying that he is criticizing Trump. You're saying Barr's saying that Trump should shut the fuck up and just let Barr do his job of covering up his crimes and improprieties. That's clearly a criticism, and it addresses something I'm sure Barr finds exasperating.

Yes.  I mean to say that this "the judicial branch is independent and apolitical" spiel coming out of his face is completely disingenuous.  Barr is just bothered because Trump is broadcasting the corruption.  I don't know why he cares though.  What are they going to do?  Impeach him?

This is just one front.  Trump through Barr is also interfering with several other investigations. This is probably a worse abuse of power than the thing he got impeached for. 

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« Reply #4879 on: February 15, 2020, 04:34:51 AM »
Yeah, now Barr is interfering in the Michael Flynn case:

https://www.axios.com/bill-barr-justice-department-michael-flynn-prosecutors-4f315a50-152d-4e89-bac6-5e1583e0538f.html

Once again, this is corruption. It's not draining the swamp, it's not telling it like it is, it's putting undue pressure on prosecutors and judges for the benefit of Trump and his (guilty) cronies. There is no reason for anyone who isn't Trump or his cronies to support this.
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