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Re: Trump
« Reply #4381 on: September 09, 2019, 05:41:35 PM »
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/09/politics/russia-us-spy-extracted/index.html

This is great. The intelligence community doesn't trust Trump at all, and for good reason.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #4382 on: September 10, 2019, 10:04:25 PM »
John Bolton out as NSA...TERRIFIC NEWS!!! Now, we can hopefully make more progress in eliminating the rest of these despicable NEOCON/RINO morons and tear down the Military/industrial complex. Americans and the world in general are tired of endless war.

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« Reply #4383 on: September 11, 2019, 12:46:23 AM »
Trump literally hired Bolton. If he's solving a problem by firing him, it's one that he created himself. And Bolton has always been notorious for his hawkishness.

But yeah, multi-dimensional chess, way to trigger the libs, and all that. ::)
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Re: Trump
« Reply #4384 on: September 11, 2019, 06:37:42 AM »
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/09/politics/russia-us-spy-extracted/index.html

This is great. The intelligence community doesn't trust Trump at all, and for good reason.
Another fake news RUSSIAN story.

Great reporting by a top notch news agency .
Trump literally hired Bolton. If he's solving a problem by firing him, it's one that he created himself. And Bolton has always been notorious for his hawkishness.

But yeah, multi-dimensional chess, way to trigger the libs, and all that. ::)
Trump puts them in place and exposes them for what they are.

Re: Trump
« Reply #4385 on: September 11, 2019, 08:45:44 AM »
Trump literally hired Bolton. If he's solving a problem by firing him, it's one that he created himself. And Bolton has always been notorious for his hawkishness.

But yeah, multi-dimensional chess, way to trigger the libs, and all that. ::)
Trump puts them in place and exposes them for what they are.

Ssooo... Trump chose a man we all knew was a warmonger to be secretary of defense so he can expose him as a war monger?

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Re: Trump
« Reply #4386 on: September 11, 2019, 06:40:49 PM »
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/09/politics/russia-us-spy-extracted/index.html

This is great. The intelligence community doesn't trust Trump at all, and for good reason.

This is fake news.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cia-slams-faulty-cnn-narrative-slams-misguided-reporting-on-russian-double-agents-alleged-exfiltration

And if you don't believe Fox, NYT reluctantly admitted the very same:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/09/us/politics/cia-informant-russia.html

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But former intelligence officials said there was no public evidence that Mr. Trump directly endangered the source, and other current American officials insisted that media scrutiny of the agency’s sources alone was the impetus for the extraction.

The CIA wanted to extract the informant long before Trump even won the election, much less took office. Unless they somehow knew that Trump would win the election almost a year in advance, Trump couldn't have possibly been involved in the decision making process that lead to the extraction.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #4387 on: September 11, 2019, 06:58:03 PM »
Trump puts them in place and exposes them for what they are.

Again, we already knew exactly what Bolton was. He's been active in politics for many years and is not shy about his beliefs. A number of media outlets criticized his hiring for that exact reason:

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/03/donald-trump-hires-john-bolton/

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/mar/22/who-is-john-bolton-trump-national-security-adviser

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/03/hiring-john-bolton-would-be-a-betrayal-of-donald-trumps-base/555020/

This was not a clever ruse. This was Trump being ridiculous as usual.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #4388 on: September 12, 2019, 10:01:52 AM »
Trump puts them in place and exposes them for what they are.

Again, we already knew exactly what Bolton was. He's been active in politics for many years and is not shy about his beliefs. A number of media outlets criticized his hiring for that exact reason:

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/03/donald-trump-hires-john-bolton/

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/mar/22/who-is-john-bolton-trump-national-security-adviser

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/03/hiring-john-bolton-would-be-a-betrayal-of-donald-trumps-base/555020/

This was not a clever ruse. This was Trump being ridiculous as usual.
Trump is ridiculous enough to give the people exactly what they want.

GOD BLESS OUR ILLUSTRIOUS AND SUPREME EXALTED LEADER!!!

Re: Trump
« Reply #4389 on: September 12, 2019, 02:34:43 PM »
Just... *Facepalm*

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Re: Trump
« Reply #4390 on: September 16, 2019, 10:41:28 PM »
Trump puts them in place and exposes them for what they are.

Again, we already knew exactly what Bolton was. He's been active in politics for many years and is not shy about his beliefs. A number of media outlets criticized his hiring for that exact reason:

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/03/donald-trump-hires-john-bolton/

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/mar/22/who-is-john-bolton-trump-national-security-adviser

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/03/hiring-john-bolton-would-be-a-betrayal-of-donald-trumps-base/555020/

This was not a clever ruse. This was Trump being ridiculous as usual.
Trump is ridiculous enough to give the people exactly what they want.

GOD BLESS OUR ILLUSTRIOUS AND SUPREME EXALTED LEADER!!!


Seriously? I thought you were warned to stop spamming this crap photo of your idol which appears to be a photo of the president just after (or possibly during) a colonoscopy.....
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Re: Trump
« Reply #4391 on: September 17, 2019, 11:22:06 AM »
Trump puts them in place and exposes them for what they are.

Again, we already knew exactly what Bolton was. He's been active in politics for many years and is not shy about his beliefs. A number of media outlets criticized his hiring for that exact reason:

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/03/donald-trump-hires-john-bolton/

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/mar/22/who-is-john-bolton-trump-national-security-adviser

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/03/hiring-john-bolton-would-be-a-betrayal-of-donald-trumps-base/555020/

This was not a clever ruse. This was Trump being ridiculous as usual.
Trump is ridiculous enough to give the people exactly what they want.

GOD BLESS OUR ILLUSTRIOUS AND SUPREME EXALTED LEADER!!!


Seriously? I thought you were warned to stop spamming this crap photo of your idol which appears to be a photo of the president just after (or possibly during) a colonoscopy.....
I actually did not make first use of this "crap photo," in the thread.

honk did.

Speaking of executive orders...



I like the photo.

Everybody likes the photo.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #4392 on: September 17, 2019, 01:33:16 PM »
I have to admit that I grudgingly admire how you've appropriated that image to be pro-Trump. It's the kind of thing I'd do.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #4393 on: September 17, 2019, 03:38:01 PM »
I have to admit that I grudgingly admire how you've appropriated that image to be pro-Trump. It's the kind of thing I'd do.
Thank you honk.

I appreciate that.

EDIT TO ADD: A question...

Here's the deal...

Economy good - Pro-Trump states: "Trump did it!" Anti-Trump states: "He's riding Obama's coattails..."

Immigration - Pro-Trump states: "Trump building the wall! Obama already oversaw the building of the 'cages'!" Anti-Trump states: "Obama built more wall"...or, "Obama never separated families."

Which is it?
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Re: Trump
« Reply #4394 on: September 17, 2019, 04:26:17 PM »
I have to admit that I grudgingly admire how you've appropriated that image to be pro-Trump. It's the kind of thing I'd do.
Thank you honk.

I appreciate that.

EDIT TO ADD: A question...

Here's the deal...

Economy good - Pro-Trump states: "Trump did it!" Anti-Trump states: "He's riding Obama's coattails..."

Immigration - Pro-Trump states: "Trump building the wall! Obama already oversaw the building of the 'cages'!" Anti-Trump states: "Obama built more wall"...or, "Obama never separated families."

Which is it?
I'm not sure I understand the question.  None of these are mutually exclusive.  Obama could have built wall AND not separated families.  The truth is, he DID separate families but as an exception, not the rule.

Obama would have also built 700+ miles of wall but republicans blocked it from even being voted on in the house.

As for the economy, I give a president two years though usually they do little to affect it.  Trump is different.  He makes stocks fall with a tweet.  No other president has done that because no other president attacks private companies or starts trade wars.

Re: Trump
« Reply #4395 on: September 18, 2019, 12:03:08 PM »
I'm not sure I understand the question.  None of these are mutually exclusive.  Obama could have built wall AND not separated families.  The truth is, he DID separate families but as an exception, not the rule.

Obama would have also built 700+ miles of wall but republicans blocked it from even being voted on in the house.

As for the economy, I give a president two years though usually they do little to affect it.  Trump is different.  He makes stocks fall with a tweet.  No other president has done that because no other president attacks private companies or starts trade wars.
You are correct.

Not mutually exclusive and, in fact, deeply intertwined.

Continuity of long range planning and incrementalist boiling of the frog...

Not sure why all the outrage then...

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Re: Trump
« Reply #4396 on: September 18, 2019, 08:50:46 PM »
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/09/corey-lewandowski-impeachment-hearing-lies-disaster.html

Ah, Corey. You regularly appear as a commentator on news programs, you plan to run for public office... and you stated, under oath no less, and in front of a national audience, that you feel no responsibility to be truthful to the public through the media.

Well good luck with your future endeavors. I expect your opponents for the Senate will play that clip to death. And the reporter is on the nose when he says any legitimate media outlet would be foolish to the extreme to ever hire you again.

But hey, there's always Fox News. Their commentators care more about protecting Trump than telling the truth too so you guys are kindred spirits.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #4397 on: September 18, 2019, 11:25:01 PM »
The next moron to post the Trump meme photo gets a 3-day ban.

Re: Trump
« Reply #4398 on: September 19, 2019, 04:00:17 AM »
I'm not sure I understand the question.  None of these are mutually exclusive.  Obama could have built wall AND not separated families.  The truth is, he DID separate families but as an exception, not the rule.

Obama would have also built 700+ miles of wall but republicans blocked it from even being voted on in the house.

As for the economy, I give a president two years though usually they do little to affect it.  Trump is different.  He makes stocks fall with a tweet.  No other president has done that because no other president attacks private companies or starts trade wars.
You are correct.

Not mutually exclusive and, in fact, deeply intertwined.

Continuity of long range planning and incrementalist boiling of the frog...

Not sure why all the outrage then...

Not sure they are deeply intertwined.
Also, what long range planning?

Outrage is mostly because of the justification, not the actual plan (in some cases)
Ex:
I've spoken to Border Agents and they feel that 300 miles of additional fencing plus upgrading and repairing of existing fences at these ares will aid them in their patrols and force border crossers to safer, official ports of entry.

Vs

We need a big, beautiful wall to keep out the rapists, drugs, and murderers comming across the southern border.  All of them are evil, horrible people who will destroy America!


One is political, the other is fear mongering.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #4399 on: September 19, 2019, 05:27:21 AM »
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/09/corey-lewandowski-impeachment-hearing-lies-disaster.html

Ah, Corey. You regularly appear as a commentator on news programs, you plan to run for public office... and you stated, under oath no less, and in front of a national audience, that you feel no responsibility to be truthful to the public through the media.

Well good luck with your future endeavors. I expect your opponents for the Senate will play that clip to death. And the reporter is on the nose when he says any legitimate media outlet would be foolish to the extreme to ever hire you again.

But hey, there's always Fox News. Their commentators care more about protecting Trump than telling the truth too so you guys are kindred spirits.

I fear that both you and the author are being much too optimistic about Lewandowski's chances of political success in the future. A significant chunk of the voting population would disagree with this part of the article:

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Let’s be clear: Lying to the press is the same as lying to the public. The press asks questions as proxy for the public. It’s not a defense to say you don’t like the press, or the segment of the population that consumes that press, because you are now not just a public official lying to the public, but a public official admitting to and condoning lying to the public.

To them, lying to the press is absolutely different to lying to the public. They see the media as snooty elitists who mislead the country and deserve to be lied to. It's only statements directly addressed to the public that need to be truthful.
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