Re: Trump
« Reply #4320 on: August 22, 2019, 12:42:55 PM »
RE: Autos

When I sold cars in the late 1980's, all vehicles in the Buick, Oldsmobile, and Pontiac brands were achieving 30+ mpg on the highway, including the Park Avenue, LeSabre, Bonneville, Ninety-Eight, and Eighty-Eight models.
Each had a 3800 SQFI V-6 engine and each was mated with a marvelous 4spd OD automatic transmission.

This state of affairs continued through until Czar Bush II and then all of the vehicles MPG. despite any existing CAFE requirements, has gone to shit.

Regardless of what standards are in place, the higher the MPG of the vehicle is a more precise indicator of the efficiency of the engine in fuel combustion. You want more fuel combustion to increase fuel efficiency and lower exhaust emissions.

Trump is calling these morons out for what they are.

Lying POS's, all of them.
« Last Edit: August 22, 2019, 12:55:04 PM by totallackey »

*

Offline Rushy

  • Planar Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 7047
    • View Profile
Re: Trump
« Reply #4321 on: August 22, 2019, 12:43:46 PM »
Brings me a bit of hope knowing there are corporations that recognize what the majority of Americans want - A sustainable future - and they also recognize that protecting the environment is a key factor in sustainability. Trump, on the other hand, he's a nitwit.

The only thing that motivates a corporation is how much money a certain decision will make it. If it thinks it will make more money with Candidate A than Candidate B, it supports Candidate A. Not being able to sell Ford cars in California would be a huge hit to the bottom line, so of course Ford will support the new California regulations.

*

Offline timterroo

  • *
  • Posts: 697
  • domo arigato gozaimashita
    • View Profile
Re: Trump
« Reply #4322 on: August 22, 2019, 01:53:50 PM »
Brings me a bit of hope knowing there are corporations that recognize what the majority of Americans want - A sustainable future - and they also recognize that protecting the environment is a key factor in sustainability. Trump, on the other hand, he's a nitwit.

The only thing that motivates a corporation is how much money a certain decision will make it. If it thinks it will make more money with Candidate A than Candidate B, it supports Candidate A. Not being able to sell Ford cars in California would be a huge hit to the bottom line, so of course Ford will support the new California regulations.

This is true... I didn't say 'hope' was perfect... I'd like to think that humanity will eventually evolve beyond greed and the desire to be on top. I don't think we'll ever have a sustainable future until this happens at a global/planar scale.

It is still good to see Ford taking the initiative, even if it's motives aren't genuine - maybe the rest of the states need to model California a bit more?
"noche te ipsum"

"If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough."  - Albert Einstein

*

Offline stack

  • *
  • Posts: 1254
    • View Profile
Re: Trump
« Reply #4323 on: August 22, 2019, 06:27:52 PM »
Brings me a bit of hope knowing there are corporations that recognize what the majority of Americans want - A sustainable future - and they also recognize that protecting the environment is a key factor in sustainability. Trump, on the other hand, he's a nitwit.

The only thing that motivates a corporation is how much money a certain decision will make it. If it thinks it will make more money with Candidate A than Candidate B, it supports Candidate A. Not being able to sell Ford cars in California would be a huge hit to the bottom line, so of course Ford will support the new California regulations.

I agree. And it's not just the volume of units sold that would be lost from a non-California participation, it's a branding awareness thing. I'm sure Ford would prefer their brand to rise above others and aligning with and environmental messaging trend that seems to be top of mind and in favor with Americans at the moment can only help them, not hinder.

And Lackey, technically it would be P'sOS. Much like how we say 'Attorneys General' when referring to more than one.
Not much is known about the celestial bodies and their distances.

*

Offline Roundy

  • Abdicator of the Zetetic Council
  • *
  • Posts: 1756
    • View Profile
Re: Trump
« Reply #4324 on: August 22, 2019, 08:18:14 PM »
And Lackey, technically it would be P'sOS. Much like how we say 'Attorneys General' when referring to more than one.

I've seen "attorney general" abbreviated AG, but don't recall ever seeing the plural abbreviated A'sG.  Beyond that, the accepted pluralisation of WMD is definitely WMDs, not W'sMD, despite being short for "weapons of mass destruction". And that's a much closer analogue to "pieces of shit" than "attorneys general" is.

I don't enjoy coming to totallackey's defense, but if you're going to try to be pedantic you should make sure you have it right.
« Last Edit: August 22, 2019, 08:39:39 PM by Roundy »
Electro-Theologist, Poet, Philosopher, Musician, Etymologist, Egyptologist, Astro-Theologist, Geocentrist, Flat Earther, and Collector of Rare Books.

*

Offline Roundy

  • Abdicator of the Zetetic Council
  • *
  • Posts: 1756
    • View Profile
Electro-Theologist, Poet, Philosopher, Musician, Etymologist, Egyptologist, Astro-Theologist, Geocentrist, Flat Earther, and Collector of Rare Books.

*

Offline stack

  • *
  • Posts: 1254
    • View Profile
Re: Trump
« Reply #4326 on: August 23, 2019, 07:00:08 AM »
And Lackey, technically it would be P'sOS. Much like how we say 'Attorneys General' when referring to more than one.

I've seen "attorney general" abbreviated AG, but don't recall ever seeing the plural abbreviated A'sG.  Beyond that, the accepted pluralisation of WMD is definitely WMDs, not W'sMD, despite being short for "weapons of mass destruction". And that's a much closer analogue to "pieces of shit" than "attorneys general" is.

I don't enjoy coming to totallackey's defense, but if you're going to try to be pedantic you should make sure you have it right.

I was just messing around with Lackey though I can see where my internal reading of facetiousness doesn't translate well to how it looks outwardly to others. So thanks for closing the unintended pedantic loop with pedantry.
Not much is known about the celestial bodies and their distances.

Re: Trump
« Reply #4327 on: August 23, 2019, 08:18:31 PM »
https://www.npr.org/2019/08/23/753676591/trade-war-heats-up-again-as-china-sets-tariffs-on-75-billion-in-u-s-goods-autos

Republicans: Socialism is Communism and we won't let the government tell us what to do!
Republican Leader(Trump): I order you to stop doing business with China.
Republicans: Yeah!  Trump is amazing!

*

Offline Roundy

  • Abdicator of the Zetetic Council
  • *
  • Posts: 1756
    • View Profile
Re: Trump
« Reply #4328 on: August 24, 2019, 06:17:05 PM »
And Lackey, technically it would be P'sOS. Much like how we say 'Attorneys General' when referring to more than one.

I've seen "attorney general" abbreviated AG, but don't recall ever seeing the plural abbreviated A'sG.  Beyond that, the accepted pluralisation of WMD is definitely WMDs, not W'sMD, despite being short for "weapons of mass destruction". And that's a much closer analogue to "pieces of shit" than "attorneys general" is.

I don't enjoy coming to totallackey's defense, but if you're going to try to be pedantic you should make sure you have it right.

I was just messing around with Lackey though I can see where my internal reading of facetiousness doesn't translate well to how it looks outwardly to others. So thanks for closing the unintended pedantic loop with pedantry.

Look, this is the Flat Earth Society. Pedantry is what we do here.
Electro-Theologist, Poet, Philosopher, Musician, Etymologist, Egyptologist, Astro-Theologist, Geocentrist, Flat Earther, and Collector of Rare Books.

Re: Trump
« Reply #4329 on: August 26, 2019, 10:43:18 AM »
Trump Walks Back Statements On China; White House Walks Them Forward https://n.pr/2ZgDavI

Now I question whose running the white house.

Like usually its "Oh no, Trump didn't mean he'd Nuke you, he was just making a point"
Not
"No, Trump actually meant something far worse than what it seemed."


Also: bombing hurricanes to stop them.

Re: Trump
« Reply #4330 on: August 26, 2019, 11:11:37 AM »
Trump Walks Back Statements On China; White House Walks Them Forward https://n.pr/2ZgDavI

Now I question whose running the white house.

Like usually its "Oh no, Trump didn't mean he'd Nuke you, he was just making a point"
Not
"No, Trump actually meant something far worse than what it seemed."
The whole article you cite doesn't even provide a statement indicating Trump has walked anything back.

I have second thoughts on virtually everything I do. Trump has second thoughts...where does that indicate a change is imminent or even considered?
Also: bombing hurricanes to stop them.
The idea of bombing hurricanes has been around long before Trump.

Don't tell me you are signing on to the time traveler stuff...

Re: Trump
« Reply #4331 on: August 26, 2019, 12:25:42 PM »
Trump Walks Back Statements On China; White House Walks Them Forward https://n.pr/2ZgDavI

Now I question whose running the white house.

Like usually its "Oh no, Trump didn't mean he'd Nuke you, he was just making a point"
Not
"No, Trump actually meant something far worse than what it seemed."
The whole article you cite doesn't even provide a statement indicating Trump has walked anything back.

I have second thoughts on virtually everything I do. Trump has second thoughts...where does that indicate a change is imminent or even considered?

Huh?
First off, you have second thoughts due to regret.  And based on "We're getting along great", its probably not "I regret not making it worse ". 
No change (immediate or otherwise) was noted so not sure where you got that.  The press just saw Trump's statement as "I may have been too hard on them.  They're great guys, we're getting along well." But the press secretary is more like "No, you're wrong.  Trump wishes they were suffering more!  He hates them!"
Mixed signals.

Quote
Also: bombing hurricanes to stop them.
The idea of bombing hurricanes has been around long before Trump.

Don't tell me you are signing on to the time traveler stuff...
First I've heard of it.
Also: what time traveler stuff?

Re: Trump
« Reply #4332 on: August 26, 2019, 12:56:33 PM »
Huh?
First off, you have second thoughts due to regret.  And based on "We're getting along great", its probably not "I regret not making it worse ". 
No change (immediate or otherwise) was noted so not sure where you got that.  The press just saw Trump's statement as "I may have been too hard on them.  They're great guys, we're getting along well."
No.

The headline and the press, as usual, is wrong.

Using hyperbole to tout clickbait.
First I've heard of it.
Also: what time traveler stuff?
Then why imply stupidity about asking about it?

What is wrong with asking a question you don't know the answer to?
« Last Edit: August 26, 2019, 03:26:07 PM by totallackey »

Re: Trump
« Reply #4333 on: August 26, 2019, 03:49:17 PM »
Huh?
First off, you have second thoughts due to regret.  And based on "We're getting along great", its probably not "I regret not making it worse ". 
No change (immediate or otherwise) was noted so not sure where you got that.  The press just saw Trump's statement as "I may have been too hard on them.  They're great guys, we're getting along well."
No.

The headline and the press, as usual, is wrong.

Using hyperbole to tout clickbait.

What are the headlines and press message?

Quote
First I've heard of it.
Also: what time traveler stuff?
Then why imply stupidity about asking about it?

What is wrong with asking a question you don't know the answer to?
O.o
I honestly can't figure out what you mean here.
I didn't imply anything about time travel.  You mentioned it and I asked what that was.

And nothing is wrong with asking a question you don't know the answer to.  Did I say there was?

Re: Trump
« Reply #4334 on: August 27, 2019, 10:42:36 AM »
What are the headlines and press message?
From the link you provided, here is the headline:
"Trump Walks Back Statements On China; White House Walks Them Forward."

The message of the press is contained in the headline.

Never mind this statement by Trump: "Yeah, sure, why not? Might as well. Might as well. I have second thoughts about everything," is hardly indicative of walking anything back.

Quote
First I've heard of it.
Also: what time traveler stuff?
Then why imply stupidity about asking about it?

What is wrong with asking a question you don't know the answer to?
O.o
I honestly can't figure out what you mean here.
I didn't imply anything about time travel.  You mentioned it and I asked what that was.

And nothing is wrong with asking a question you don't know the answer to.  Did I say there was?
I wrote the word imply, not overt.

*

Offline Roundy

  • Abdicator of the Zetetic Council
  • *
  • Posts: 1756
    • View Profile
Re: Trump
« Reply #4335 on: August 28, 2019, 05:32:02 AM »
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-campaign-attacks-aoc-democrats-our-country-not-theirs-n1047061

I knew he would keep it up. It's gonna be positively disgusting by the next election. I still hope totallackey's wrong and this kind of blatant racism only actually appeals to a small part of the electorate.
Electro-Theologist, Poet, Philosopher, Musician, Etymologist, Egyptologist, Astro-Theologist, Geocentrist, Flat Earther, and Collector of Rare Books.

Re: Trump
« Reply #4336 on: August 28, 2019, 08:01:12 AM »
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-campaign-attacks-aoc-democrats-our-country-not-theirs-n1047061

I knew he would keep it up. It's gonna be positively disgusting by the next election. I still hope totallackey's wrong and this kind of blatant racism only actually appeals to a small part of the electorate.
Democrats aren't Americans, apparently.  Well... Thats just asking for war.

*

Offline Pete Svarrior

  • e
  • Planar Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 9923
  • (>^_^)> it's propaganda time (◕‿◕✿)
    • View Profile
    • The Flat Earth Society
Re: Trump
« Reply #4337 on: August 28, 2019, 11:35:49 AM »
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-campaign-attacks-aoc-democrats-our-country-not-theirs-n1047061

I knew he would keep it up. It's gonna be positively disgusting by the next election. I still hope totallackey's wrong and this kind of blatant racism only actually appeals to a small part of the electorate.
Democrats aren't Americans, apparently.  Well... Thats just asking for war.
Hold on - the full quote in that article reads:

Socialist Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez recently called for abolishing the Electoral College. Remind her that this country belongs to AMERICANS from EVERY zip code, not just the Coastal Elites and Liberal Mega Donors. This is our country, not theirs

Am I being overly generous in interpreting what he said as "this is a country that belongs to all of us (our contry), and not just 'the elites' (them)"?
Read the FAQ before asking your question - chances are we've already addressed it.
Follow the Flat Earth Society on Twitter and Facebook!


*mic stays stationary and earth accelerates upwards towards it*

Re: Trump
« Reply #4338 on: August 28, 2019, 11:48:43 AM »
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-campaign-attacks-aoc-democrats-our-country-not-theirs-n1047061

I knew he would keep it up. It's gonna be positively disgusting by the next election. I still hope totallackey's wrong and this kind of blatant racism only actually appeals to a small part of the electorate.
Democrats aren't Americans, apparently.  Well... Thats just asking for war.
Hold on - the full quote in that article reads:

Socialist Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez recently called for abolishing the Electoral College. Remind her that this country belongs to AMERICANS from EVERY zip code, not just the Coastal Elites and Liberal Mega Donors. This is our country, not theirs

Am I being overly generous in interpreting what he said as "this is a country that belongs to all of us (our contry), and not just 'the elites' (them)"?
Fair point.  Perhaps I was too hasty.

*

Offline Roundy

  • Abdicator of the Zetetic Council
  • *
  • Posts: 1756
    • View Profile
Re: Trump
« Reply #4339 on: August 28, 2019, 01:19:01 PM »
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-campaign-attacks-aoc-democrats-our-country-not-theirs-n1047061

I knew he would keep it up. It's gonna be positively disgusting by the next election. I still hope totallackey's wrong and this kind of blatant racism only actually appeals to a small part of the electorate.
Democrats aren't Americans, apparently.  Well... Thats just asking for war.
Hold on - the full quote in that article reads:

Socialist Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez recently called for abolishing the Electoral College. Remind her that this country belongs to AMERICANS from EVERY zip code, not just the Coastal Elites and Liberal Mega Donors. This is our country, not theirs

Am I being overly generous in interpreting what he said as "this is a country that belongs to all of us (our contry), and not just 'the elites' (them)"?

I mean, if it belongs to all of us, why is it that only a handful of states ever matter in any given presidential election? Why don't Delaware's votes matter just as much as Wisconsin's in the next election?

If the country belongs to "all of us" (the whole country) and not just "them" (middle America), why are they the only ones that will have a real say in who becomes president this year?

Maybe I was wrong to interpret this as racist, or maybe not. I've gotten to the point where he says so much that is blatant that when I see something like this I assume it's intentional, and given that the purpose of his comment was to rile up his base I still think it's fair to look at it that way. It's impossible not to think of a comment in terms like that when it comes to Trump.
Electro-Theologist, Poet, Philosopher, Musician, Etymologist, Egyptologist, Astro-Theologist, Geocentrist, Flat Earther, and Collector of Rare Books.