Re: Trump
« Reply #2740 on: May 08, 2018, 08:27:33 PM »
https://www.npr.org/2018/05/08/609383603/trump-u-s-will-withdraw-from-iran-nuclear-deal

Literally no surprise.
Aside from giving Iran incentive to build nuclear weapons, ISIS another bullet point to hate us, and everyone else another migraine...
this basically says "If the US makes a deal with you, it can be recinded at any point for any reason."  So when the US says "We'll agree not to invade you if you stop making nukes" why would anyone believe us?  The credibility of the United States has been shafted hard and it'll only make "making a deal" harder without threats.  In fact, this is going to boil down to "You'll make a deal I like or we'll kill you(figuratively or literally)" for pretty much everyone eventually.

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« Reply #2741 on: May 09, 2018, 05:26:06 AM »
Other than "unconstructive" not being a real word

Unrelevant.

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Plus, the fact remains that it is more prevalent. Since the creation of the internet, would you say the internet is used more for memes and detrimental political jabs, or more for thoughtful political commentary? If you honestly believe the latter is the current state of affairs, then I should remind you that Reddit doesn't count as "thoughtful political commentary".

Reddit shouldn't count at all, given what we're discussing - popular, mainstream political commentary, the kind that apparently makes conservatives feel like their ideas are under attack.

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How was I wrong? You didn't name another mainstream news organization anywhere near the size MSNBC, CNN, or NPR. Fox quite literally has a monopoly on conservative television.

If you specifically meant television, you should have said so. And the only news channel I'd really consider to be a liberal "equivalent" to Fox would be MSNBC. The other ones you listed probably skew more left than right, but any bias they show is trivial compared to how open and explicit Fox (and MSNBC too, to be fair) is about their preference.

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Eight enormously popular conservative shows versus thousands of mildly popular liberal shows. Again, that's my point. Liberals in America don't have to resort to a few people talking when they have entire stations ala NPR to broadcast views that agree with them.

No, this was not your point. You clearly had no idea that there were so many successful conservative talk radio shows beyond Limbaugh, and now you're trying to argue that they're overwhelmed by the sheer number of tiny liberal shows, a claim that you obviously just pulled out of your ass in an effort to avoid losing face. You've turned to bad faith arguments to help you win a stupid debate that never would have come up if you had taken the time to research things outside of your frame of reference, like newspapers, radio, and the 1990s.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #2743 on: May 10, 2018, 03:38:08 PM »
"There were roughly 38,000 apprehensions of people trying to cross the border illegally each of the past two months, according to data from the Department of Homeland Security."

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/09/politics/national-guard-troops-border-apprehensions/index.html



THIRTY EIGHT THOUSAND PEOPLE IN EACH OF THE PAST TWO MONTHS! That's 76,000 people trying to cross the border illegally just in the past two months. What the fuck is going on? That's not immigration, that's invasion.

Re: Trump
« Reply #2744 on: May 10, 2018, 04:32:34 PM »
"There were roughly 38,000 apprehensions of people trying to cross the border illegally each of the past two months, according to data from the Department of Homeland Security."

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/09/politics/national-guard-troops-border-apprehensions/index.html



THIRTY EIGHT THOUSAND PEOPLE IN EACH OF THE PAST TWO MONTHS! That's 76,000 people trying to cross the border illegally just in the past two months. What the fuck is going on? That's not immigration, that's invasion.
That IS a lot.  And it's just apprehensions.  Not counting those who got through.


But it's hardly surprising.  It's May.  A caravan of illegals have been making their way through Central America to the farms of America for farm work since it's the season.


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« Reply #2745 on: May 10, 2018, 05:12:37 PM »
Maybe Trump was right. Maybe this really is a deliberate effort by the Mexican government to send us their worst!
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Re: Trump
« Reply #2746 on: May 10, 2018, 05:16:29 PM »
Maybe Trump was right. Maybe this really is a deliberate effort by the Mexican government to send us their worst!

Trump is right about a lot of things.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #2747 on: May 10, 2018, 07:02:57 PM »
Maybe Trump was right. Maybe this really is a deliberate effort by the Mexican government to send us their worst!

If they were good people the Mexican government wouldn't be doing their best to get rid of them. They probably sifted through the caravan, offered the skilled workers jobs and visas, then sent the rest on their way.

The same party that complains about a high unemployment rate and low wages is the same one that seems to think this invasion of unskilled labor isn't a big deal.

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« Reply #2748 on: May 10, 2018, 07:23:53 PM »
Maybe Trump was right. Maybe this really is a deliberate effort by the Mexican government to send us their worst!

If they were good people the Mexican government wouldn't be doing their best to get rid of them. They probably sifted through the caravan, offered the skilled workers jobs and visas, then sent the rest on their way.

The same party that complains about a high unemployment rate and low wages is the same one that seems to think this invasion of unskilled labor isn't a big deal.

To be fair: They have tried to stop as much as they could but ya can't stop em all.  Especially if they have legal right to travel in Mexico.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #2749 on: May 10, 2018, 11:09:47 PM »
Maybe Trump was right. Maybe this really is a deliberate effort by the Mexican government to send us their worst!

If they were good people the Mexican government wouldn't be doing their best to get rid of them. They probably sifted through the caravan, offered the skilled workers jobs and visas, then sent the rest on their way.

The same party that complains about a high unemployment rate and low wages is the same one that seems to think this invasion of unskilled labor isn't a big deal.
>implying that colored people were not born better at everything than a white person could ever be
Occam's Razor, more people should try slitting their wrists with it.

I think he looks like a chubby mole. The thought of him slapping his cold, clammy gut on you, his hairy back matted with sweat as he shoves his flaccid rodent like genitalia between your legs whilst squinting and huffing like an asthmatic pig

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Re: Trump
« Reply #2750 on: May 17, 2018, 06:28:31 PM »
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Re: Trump
« Reply #2751 on: May 17, 2018, 08:58:13 PM »
mfw money paid to a prostitute continues to be worth mentioning

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« Reply #2752 on: May 17, 2018, 09:14:13 PM »
mfw money paid to a prostitute continues to be worth mentioning


Money paid to shut up a prostitute who wasn't an actual prostitute but a gold digger.
Also, coming from the party of God and morality and traditional family values. 

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« Reply #2753 on: May 17, 2018, 09:17:17 PM »
mfw money paid to a prostitute continues to be worth mentioning


Money paid to shut up a prostitute who wasn't an actual prostitute but a gold digger.
Also, coming from the party of God and morality and traditional family values.

Both political parties are mostly religious, pro-morality and traditional family values. I don't think there's a popular pro-immoral party or an anti-family party or an anti-god party in America.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #2754 on: May 17, 2018, 10:07:14 PM »
She's a porn star, not a prostitute. A prostitute would be more damaging to Trump, at least in theory.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #2755 on: May 17, 2018, 10:18:21 PM »
She's a porn star, not a prostitute. A prostitute would be more damaging to Trump, at least ostensibly.

haha, what.

Saddam, all porn stars are prostitutes, but not all prostitutes are porn stars.

Re: Trump
« Reply #2756 on: May 18, 2018, 04:00:28 AM »
mfw money paid to a prostitute continues to be worth mentioning


Money paid to shut up a prostitute who wasn't an actual prostitute but a gold digger.
Also, coming from the party of God and morality and traditional family values.

Both political parties are mostly religious, pro-morality and traditional family values. I don't think there's a popular pro-immoral party or an anti-family party or an anti-god party in America.
Pushing for Same-Sex Marriage - Democrats.
This is both anti-religious and anti-traditional family values.


Same sex couples adopting.  Transgender rights.
Both are also non-traditional families and largely go against the religious community.  And if ya ain't loving God, ya ain't a moral person.






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Re: Trump
« Reply #2757 on: May 18, 2018, 01:32:49 PM »
mfw money paid to a prostitute continues to be worth mentioning


Money paid to shut up a prostitute who wasn't an actual prostitute but a gold digger.
Also, coming from the party of God and morality and traditional family values.

Both political parties are mostly religious, pro-morality and traditional family values. I don't think there's a popular pro-immoral party or an anti-family party or an anti-god party in America.
Pushing for Same-Sex Marriage - Democrats.
This is both anti-religious and anti-traditional family values.


Same sex couples adopting.  Transgender rights.
Both are also non-traditional families and largely go against the religious community.  And if ya ain't loving God, ya ain't a moral person.

What? Neither of those things are "anti-religious" and there are many churches in the US that marry same-sex couples. Your idea of the "religious community" seems to be completely different from reality.

Both Democrats and Republicans are a super majority of Christians. They're both religious parties. Neither one of them is anti-religious or anti-family, lol.

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« Reply #2758 on: May 18, 2018, 03:02:08 PM »
mfw money paid to a prostitute continues to be worth mentioning


Money paid to shut up a prostitute who wasn't an actual prostitute but a gold digger.
Also, coming from the party of God and morality and traditional family values.

Both political parties are mostly religious, pro-morality and traditional family values. I don't think there's a popular pro-immoral party or an anti-family party or an anti-god party in America.
Pushing for Same-Sex Marriage - Democrats.
This is both anti-religious and anti-traditional family values.


Same sex couples adopting.  Transgender rights.
Both are also non-traditional families and largely go against the religious community.  And if ya ain't loving God, ya ain't a moral person.

What? Neither of those things are "anti-religious" and there are many churches in the US that marry same-sex couples. Your idea of the "religious community" seems to be completely different from reality.

Both Democrats and Republicans are a super majority of Christians. They're both religious parties. Neither one of them is anti-religious or anti-family, lol.
Homosexuality is literally a sin. (to Christians, Muslims and Jews)
Anti-Religious doesn't mean "We wanna get rid of god"(Though they do champion taking down religious things in governmet buildings) but "We wanna implement policy that the religious community would, as a whole, find sinful."

Also: The pope has said that marrying same sex couples is not allowed.  That's an entire sect of Christianity against it.

Also: I said non-traditional families.  Non-Traditional means 2 Dads, 2 Moms, A transgender parent, stuff like that.  Last time I checked, The republican Party does not think such things are a good idea.  Especially for child adoption.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #2759 on: May 18, 2018, 04:22:52 PM »
Homosexuality is literally a sin. (to Christians, Muslims and Jews)
Anti-Religious doesn't mean "We wanna get rid of god"(Though they do champion taking down religious things in governmet buildings) but "We wanna implement policy that the religious community would, as a whole, find sinful."

It's also a sin to wear clothing made of different fibers. The whole point of Christianity is that no man is without sin and that sins can be forgiven.

Also: The pope has said that marrying same sex couples is not allowed.  That's an entire sect of Christianity against it.

How is this at all relevant? I didn't say the majority of Democrats are Catholic.

Also: I said non-traditional families.  Non-Traditional means 2 Dads, 2 Moms, A transgender parent, stuff like that.  Last time I checked, The republican Party does not think such things are a good idea.  Especially for child adoption.

A traditional family is closer to the definition of a nuclear family, Dave. Democrats think the nuclear family can have different components, but generally speaking they still do very much support the idea of the nuclear family.

I think you're having trouble understanding what I said. The Democrat and Republican party are both supermajority religious parties. One just happens to be more religious than the other. Neither of them are anti-religion, like you erroneously claimed. I don't even understand why you'd ever think that's true of any major political party in any nation. There are quite literally no majority anti-religious political parties in any Western nation.
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