Re: Trump
« Reply #540 on: February 06, 2017, 08:43:08 PM »
In other news:
The house is terminating the EPA
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/861/text

I want to see the text on this.

I think this is just a token attempt that will die during committee consideration. Even most republicans don't want the EPA outright abolished. (I think/hope.) Worth keeping an eye on though.

Edit:
I'm sure we won't know what's in it until Trump signs it.

Congress publishes bills to the public shortly after being introduced. Luckily Trump doesn't have much power over how Congress operates.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #541 on: February 06, 2017, 08:48:13 PM »
FUCK you Trump and Fuck you Republicans!

You need to get laid man.

Re: Trump
« Reply #542 on: February 06, 2017, 08:59:39 PM »
FUCK you Trump and Fuck you Republicans!

You need to get laid man.

I'm confused. I thought the people who hate Trump are all sexually-deviant liberals. Haven't they already been laid way too many times for their own good?

Re: Trump
« Reply #543 on: February 06, 2017, 09:27:13 PM »
FUCK you Trump and Fuck you Republicans!

You need to get laid man.

I'm confused. I thought the people who hate Trump are all sexually-deviant liberals. Haven't they already been laid way too many times for their own good?

I'm willing to make an exception to that inaccurate, broadly misinformed stereotype for Dave. Only the worst kind of repression and self-loathing could lead to the kind of frothing at the mouth we see him exhibiting.

By the way, aren't you not even American, Dave? That just makes your indignation even that more hilarious.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #544 on: February 06, 2017, 09:39:54 PM »
FUCK you Trump and Fuck you Republicans!

You need to get laid man.

I'm confused. I thought the people who hate Trump are all sexually-deviant liberals. Haven't they already been laid way too many times for their own good?

I'm willing to make an exception to that inaccurate, broadly misinformed stereotype for Dave. Only the worst kind of repression and self-loathing could lead to the kind of frothing at the mouth we see him exhibiting.

By the way, aren't you not even American, Dave? That just makes your indignation even that more hilarious.

HA
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AAAAaahahahahah..

I'm sorry if my anger at the death of children is odd.  I guess only conservatives can be frothing at the mouth angry about the death of ... oh wait, they don't give a shit about kids, just zygotes.

Secondly, Lurk Moar.  I'm married AND American.  I just live in Norway.  Which means I can actually see the US for the scum sucking shit hole it really is. I mean, once you see how other places of the world live, you realize that what's going on in America isn't necessary.  You can have environmental control, healthcare for all, and good schools mixed with a christian nation that doesn't give a shit about how christian it's people are.

Sadly, you're stuck in America.  And you will suffer.

Re: Trump
« Reply #545 on: February 06, 2017, 10:18:06 PM »
FUCK you Trump and Fuck you Republicans!

You need to get laid man.

I'm confused. I thought the people who hate Trump are all sexually-deviant liberals. Haven't they already been laid way too many times for their own good?

I'm willing to make an exception to that inaccurate, broadly misinformed stereotype for Dave. Only the worst kind of repression and self-loathing could lead to the kind of frothing at the mouth we see him exhibiting.

You know what I love about you? The irony that seems to be intrinsic to almost everything you say. Is it intentional parody? I honestly can't tell. If so, bravo.

Re: Trump
« Reply #546 on: February 06, 2017, 11:20:29 PM »
FUCK you Trump and Fuck you Republicans!

You need to get laid man.

I'm confused. I thought the people who hate Trump are all sexually-deviant liberals. Haven't they already been laid way too many times for their own good?

I'm willing to make an exception to that inaccurate, broadly misinformed stereotype for Dave. Only the worst kind of repression and self-loathing could lead to the kind of frothing at the mouth we see him exhibiting.

You know what I love about you? The irony that seems to be intrinsic to almost everything you say. Is it intentional parody? I honestly can't tell. If so, bravo.

I think it's called sarcasm, lol

What's most baffling is either you're not a republican, or you don't care about kids dying apparently. Ironic no one was up in arms while the compassionate Nobel peace prize winning President on "your" side of the fence droned innocent women and children for the past 8 years. The moral high ground is a slippery slope.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #547 on: February 07, 2017, 12:06:12 AM »
You seriously think that Obama's use of drones wasn't controversial?

http://www.salon.com/topic/drones/
http://www.slate.com/topics/d/drones.html
https://www.theguardian.com/world/drones
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/drone-strikes/

If anything, I'd argue that drones have gotten too much criticism in recent years. Not that there aren't ethical issues with their use, but I swear that a lot of the people complaining about them don't even realize how they work, and just assume that they're autonomous murderbots that we send out to slaughter freely.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #548 on: February 07, 2017, 05:07:20 AM »
Actually it does. It's the reason why we shouldn't accept them here.
Again, you seem to fail to grasp the very basics of refugee programs.  Large masses of people were arriving on boats and having to be sorted through and put into camps.  Some, if they had false IDs, would still need to be vetted and their Identities confirmed.  Especially if they go to the US, which has a very extreme vetting process.  And as you've noticed, large masses of people are not showing up on boats to the US shores.  So again, you're trying to point to a problem that doesn't really exist for the US.

Which again, we're preventing a problem before it grows.
That's pretty damn racist, if that's the reasoning.  You're saying "let's prevent this (potential)problem before it becomes an issue by blocking everyone" yet America has far, far, far worse problems and it's terrorists are, more often than not, home grown yet they don't want to fix that.

How is it racist when (1) countries aren't a race and (2) the people have shown to be trouble elsewhere like Europe?

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However most them agree with parts that deny equal rights to women.
So do some Americans.  What's your point?

They do it at a greater extent and more frequently than Americans.

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Then why places like Norway and Germany had a dramatic increase in rape since the exceptence of these "refugees"?
Yeah...
I live in Norway.  You're wrong by alot.
http://norwaytoday.info/news/marked-increase-rape-reviews/
http://norwaytoday.info/news/increase-number-rape-reviews/

First off, rate of reporting has increased.  Secondly, here in Norway, online abuse counts.  Third, assault rapes (like I assume you're referring too) are still very low.

Next time, pick a country I don't live in, yeah?

While Norway isn't experiencing the rape epidemic (yet) other countries like Sweden, France, and Germany (which you ignored) are having not only a rape epidemic but a terrorism epidemic.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #549 on: February 07, 2017, 11:32:23 AM »
He wasn't ignoring the others, bud, he just lives in Norway.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #550 on: February 07, 2017, 12:18:39 PM »
How is it racist when (1) countries aren't a race and (2) the people have shown to be trouble elsewhere like Europe?
1) Because you aren't talking about countries, you're talking about the people in the countries.  Countries aren't going into refugee programs, people are.
2) People ARE trouble.  Period.  By saying "Those people" are trouble while somehow ignoring everyone else, you're assigning a group of people (by nationality/religious affiliation) as "bad" without proving that the "bad" people in their group is all of them or even most of them or even a higher than average "bad" people amount.

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They do it at a greater extent and more frequently than Americans.
Well duh.  They grew up in a country where that's the norm.  Look at 1950s America and you'll find the same damn thing.  Or hey, Americans are more gun loving than other countries.  We have more mass shootings than other countries.  Doesn't that, by your very logic, mean Americans are dangerous and will start mass shootings in any country they move to?

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While Norway isn't experiencing the rape epidemic (yet) other countries like Sweden, France, and Germany (which you ignored) are having not only a rape epidemic but a terrorism epidemic.

Yet?  When should we start?  Cause we've got plenty of refugees.

Sweden has always had a very high rape number compared to other countries(since 1995), mostly due to how they report and mark such crimes.  For example, let's say I'm a woman and I go to the police and say I was raped by 5 people one time each.
That's 5 rapes.
Another says "I was raped 5 times by one person"
That's 5 rapes.
They also mark it as rape even if it gets changed later on to another crime.
Here ya go.  The "epidemic"
http://www.bra.se/bra/bra-in-english/home/crime-and-statistics.html
It spiked 0.5% in 2013 then went back down 0.3% in 2014.
http://www.bra.se/download/18.358de3051533ffea5ea7f2cf/1459417671952/Reported_offences_1950_2015.xls
2015 showed rape is down from the last two years.
I am unable to find 2016 but it's probably too early for that.

France - Up 15% in 2015
http://i.f1g.fr/media/figaro/orig/2016/01/18/INFc4cf451a-bdf8-11e5-8da0-9d78361a1065-300x1506.jpg

Germany - 2013-2014 Rape is down.
https://www.bka.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/EN/Publications/PoliceCrimeStatistics/2014/pks2014_englisch.pdf?__blob=publicationFile&v=1
https://www.bka.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/EN/Publications/PoliceCrimeStatistics/2015/pks2015_englisch.pdf?__blob=publicationFile&v=3
Down again in 2015


So far, you've got France up by alot.  But without any further data on what that increase actually means I can't say anything. 

And all these STILL fall flat compared to the US.
France has a lower rape rate than the United States. 






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Now then...
http://www.npr.org/2017/02/06/513777052/trump-says-media-fail-to-report-terrorist-attacks-white-house-promises-list
Trump says the Media doesn't report Terrorist Attacks.  I admit, some of them I don't remember seeing.

However....

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NEW YORK CITY, NY, USA
October, 2014
TARGET: Two police officers wounded in knife attack
ATTACKER: US person
Shit like that is pure padding.  Making the list seem bigger than it is.  I'd hardly call a knife attack against two cops by a US person to suddenly be a terrorist attack. 

Some are in the Middle East and aren't going to be reported much on American news.  Is he assuming that if no news outlet in America reported it, then the media is lying?

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Re: Trump
« Reply #551 on: February 07, 2017, 02:59:03 PM »
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Re: Trump
« Reply #552 on: February 07, 2017, 05:43:39 PM »
TIMELINE: September, 2014 - December, 2016
NUMBER OF ATTACKS: 78

MELBOURNE, AUSTRALIA
September, 2014
TARGET: Two police officers wounded in knife attack
ATTACKER: Abdul Numan Haider

TIZI OUZOU, ALGERIA
September, 2014
TARGET: One French citizen beheaded
ATTACKER: Jund al-Khilafah in Algeria

QUEBEC, CANADA
October, 2014
TARGET: One soldier killed and one wounded in vehicle attack
ATTACKER: Martin Couture-Rouleau

OTTAWA, CANADA
October, 2014
TARGET: One soldier killed at war memorial; two wounded in shootings at Parliament building
ATTACKER: Michael Zehaf-Bibeau

NEW YORK CITY, NY, USA
October, 2014
TARGET: Two police officers wounded in knife attack
ATTACKER: US person

RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
November, 2014
TARGET: One Danish citizen wounded in shooting
ATTACKERS: Three Saudi Arabia-based ISIL members

ABU DHABI, UAE
DATE: December 2014
TARGET: One American killed in knife attack
ATTACKER: Dalal al-Hashimi

SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA
December, 2014
TARGET: Two Australians killed in hostage taking and shooting
ATTACKER: Man Haron Monis

TOURS, FRANCE
December, 2014
TARGET: Three police officers wounded in knife attack
ATTACKER: Bertrand Nzohabonayo

PARIS, FRANCE
January, 2015
TARGET: One police officer and four hostages killed in shooting at a kosher supermarket
ATTACKER: Amedy Coulibaly

TRIPOLI, LIBYA
January, 2015
TARGET: Ten killed, including one US citizen, and five wounded in bombing and shooting at a hotel frequented by westerners
ATTACKERS: As many as five ISIL-Libya members

RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA
January, 2015
TARGET: Two US citizens wounded in shooting
ATTACKER: Saudi Arabia-based ISIL supporter

NICE, FRANCE
February, 2015
TARGET: Two French soldiers wounded in knife attack outside a Jewish community center
ATTACKER: Moussa Coulibaly

COPENHAGEN, DENMARK
February, 2015
TARGET: One civilian killed in shooting at a free-speech rally and one security guard killed outside the city’s main synagogue
ATTACKER: Omar Abdel Hamid el-Hussein

TUNIS, TUNISIA
March, 2015
TARGET: 21 tourists killed, including 16 westerners, and 55 wounded in shooting at the Bardo Museum
ATTACKERS: Two ISIL-aligned extremists

KARACHI, PAKISTAN
April, 2015
TARGET: One US citizen wounded in knife attack
ATTACKERS: Pakistan-based ISIL supporters

PARIS, FRANCE
April, 2015
TARGET: Catholic churches targeted; one civilian killed in shooting, possibly during an attempted carjacking
ATTACKER: Sid Ahmed Ghlam

ZVORNIK, BOSNIA
April, 2015
TARGET: One police officer killed and two wounded in shooting
ATTACKER: Nerdin Ibric

GARLAND, TX, USA
May, 2015
TARGET: One security guard wounded in shooting at the Prophet Muhammad cartoon event
ATTACKERS: Two US persons

BOSTON, MA, USA
June, 2015
TARGET: No casualties; one police officer attacked with knife
ATTACKER: US person

EL GORA (AL JURAH), EGYPT
June, 2015
TARGET: No casualties; camp used by Multinational Force and Observers (MFO) troops attacked in shooting and bombing attack
ATTACKERS: Unknown number of ISIL-Sinai members

LUXOR, EGYPT
June, 2015
TARGET: One police officer killed by suicide bomb near the Temple of Karnak
ATTACKER: Unidentified

SOUSSE, TUNISIA
June, 2015
TARGET: 38 killed and 39 wounded in shooting at a beach frequented by westerners
ATTACKERS: Seifeddine Rezgui and another unidentified attacker

LYON, FRANCE
June, 2015
TARGET: One civilian killed in beheading and explosion at a chemical plant
ATTACKER: Yasin Salhi

CAIRO, EGYPT
July, 2015
TARGET: One killed and nine wounded in VBIED attack at Italian Consulate
ATTACKER: Unidentified ISIL operatives

CAIRO, EGYPT
July, 2015
TARGET: One Croatian national kidnapped; beheaded on August 12 at an unknown location
ATTACKER: Unidentified ISIL-Sinai operative

PARIS, FRANCE
August, 2015
TARGET: Two civilians and one US soldier wounded with firearms and knife on a passenger train
ATTACKER: Ayoub el-Khazzani

EL GORA, EGYPT
September, 2015
TARGET: Four US and two MFO troops wounded in IED attack
ATTACKER: Unidentified

DHAKA, BANGLADESH
September, 2015
TARGET: One Italian civilian killed in shooting
ATTACKER: Unidentified

COPENHAGEN, DENMARK
September, 2015
TARGET: One police officer wounded in knife attack
ATTAKER: Palestinian national

EL GORA, EGYPT
October, 2015
TARGET: No casualties; airfield used by MFO attacked with rockets
ATTAKER: Unidentified ISIL-Sinai operatives

PARRAMATTA, AUSTRALIA
October, 2015
TARGET: One police officer killed in shooting
ATTAKER: Farhad Jabar

RANGPUR, BANGLADESH
October, 2015
TARGET: One Japanese civilian killed in shooting
ATTAKER: Unidentified

HASANAH, EGYPT
October, 2015
TARGET: 224 killed in downing of a Russian airliner
ATTAKER: Unidentified ISIL-Sinai operatives

MERCED, CA, US
November, 2015
TARGET: Four wounded in knife attack on a college campus
ATTAKER: US person

PARIS, FRANCE
November, 2015
TARGET: At least 129 killed and approximately 400 wounded in series of shootings and IED attacks
ATTAKERS: Brahim Abdelslam, Saleh Abdeslam, Ismail Mostefai, Bilal Hadfi, Samy Amimour, Chakib Ahrouh, Foued Mohamed Aggad, and Abdelhamid Abaaoud

DINAJPUR, BANGLADESH
November, 2015
TARGET: One Italian citizen wounded in shooting
ATTAKER: Unidentified

RAJLOVAC, BOSNIA
December, 2015
TARGET: Two Bosnian soldiers killed in shooting
ATTAKER: Enes Omeragic

SAN BERNADINO, CA, US
December, 2015
TARGET: 14 killed and 21 wounded in coordinated firearms attack
ATTAKERS: Two US persons

LONDON, ENGLAND, UK
December, 2015
TARGET: Three wounded in knife attack at an underground rail station
ATTAKER: Muhyadin Mire

DERBENT, RUSSIA
December, 2015
TARGET: One killed and 11 wounded in shooting at UN World Heritage site
ATTAKER: Unidentified ISIL-Caucasus operative

CAIRO, EGYPT
January, 2016
TARGET: Two wounded in drive-by shooting outside a hotel frequented by tourists
ATTAKERS: Unidentified ISIL operatives

PARIS, FRANCE
January, 2016
TARGET: No casualties; attacker killed after attempted knife attack on Paris police station
ATTAKER: Tarek Belgacem

PHILADELPHIA, PENNSYLVANIA
January, 2016
TARGET: One police officer wounded in shooting
ATTAKER: US person

HURGHADA, EGYPT
January, 2016
TARGET: One German and one Danish national wounded in knife attack at a tourist resort
ATTAKER: Unidentified

MARSEILLES, FRANCE
January, 2016
TARGET: One Jewish teacher wounded in machete attack
ATTAKER: 15 year-old Ethnic Kurd from Turkey

ISTANBUL, TURKEY
January, 2016
TARGET: 12 German tourists killed and 15 wounded in suicide bombing
ATTAKER: Nabil Fadli

JAKARTA, INDONESIA
January, 2016
TARGET: Four civilians killed and more than 20 wounded in coordinated bombing and firearms attacks near a police station and a Starbucks
ATTAKERS: Dian Joni Kurnaiadi, Muhammad Ali, Arif Sunakim, and Ahmad Muhazan bin Saron

COLUMBUS, OH, US
February, 2016
TARGET: Four civilians wounded in machete attack at a restaurant
ATTAKER: US person

HANOVER, GERMANY
February, 2016
TARGET: One police officer wounded in knife attack
ATTAKER: Safia Schmitter

ISTANBUL, TURKEY
March, 2016
TARGET: Four killed and 36 wounded in suicide bombing in the tourist district
ATTAKER: Mehmet Ozturk

BRUSSELS, BELGIUM
March, 2016
TARGET: At least 31 killed and 270 wounded in coordinated bombings at Zaventem Airport and on a subway train
ATTAKERS: Khalid el-Bakraoui, Ibrahim el-Bakraoui, Najim Laachraoui, Mohammed Abrini, and Osama Krayem

ESSEN, GERMANY
April, 2016
TARGET: Three wounded in bombing at Sikh temple
ATTAKERS: Three identified minors

ORLANDO, FL, US
June, 2016
TARGET: 49 killed and 53 wounded in shooting at a nightclub
ATTAKER: US person

MAGNANVILLE, FRANCE
June, 2016
TARGET: One police officer and one civilian killed in knife attack
ATTAKER: Larossi Abballa

KABUL, AFGHANISTAN
June, 2016
TARGET: 14 killed in suicide attack on a bus carrying Canadian Embassy guards
ATTAKER: ISIL-Khorasan operative

ISTANBUL, TURKEY
June, 2016
TARGET: 45 killed and approximately 240 wounded at Ataturk International Airport
ATTACKERS: Rakhim Bulgarov, Vadim Osmanov, and an unidentified ISIL operative

DHAKA, BANGLADESH
July, 2016
TARGET: 22 killed, including one American and 50 wounded after hours-long siege using machetes and firearms at holy Artisan Bakery
ATTACKERS: Nibras Islam, Rohan Imtiaz, Meer Saameh Mubasheer, Khairul Islam Paye, and Shafiqul Islam Uzzal

NICE, FRANCE
July, 2016
TARGET: 84 civilians killed and 308 wounded by an individual who drove a truck into a crowd
ATTACKER: Mohamed Bouhlel

WURZBURG, GERMANY
July, 2016
TARGET: Four civilians wounded in axe attack on a train
ATTACKER: Riaz Khan Ahmadzai

ANSBACH, GERMANY
July, 2016
TARGET: At least 15 wounded in suicide bombing at a music festival
ATTACKER: Mohammad Daleel

NORMANDY, FRANCE
July, 2016
TARGET: One priest killed in knife attack
ATTACKERS: Adel Kermiche and Abdel Malik Nabil Petitjean

CHALEROI, BELGIUM
August, 2016
TARGET: Two police officers wounded in machete attack
ATTACKER: Khaled Babouri

QUEENSLAND, AUSTRALIA
August, 2016
TARGET: Two killed and one wounded in knife attack at a hostel frequented by Westerners
ATTACKER: Smail Ayad

COPENHAGEN, DENMAKR
September, 2016
TARGET: Two police officers and a civilian wounded in shooting
ATTACKER: Mesa Hodzic

PARIS, FRANCE
September, 2016
TARGET: One police officer wounded in raid after VBIED failed to detonate at Notre Dame Cathedral
ATTACKERS: Sarah Hervouet, Ines Madani, and Amel Sakaou

SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA
September, 2016
TARGET: One civilian wounded in knife attack
ATTACKER: Ihsas Khan

ST. CLOUD, MN, US
September, 2016
TARGET: 10 wounded in knife attack in a mall
ATTACKER: Dahir Ahmed Adan

NEW YORK, NY; SEASIDE PARK AND ELIZABETH, NJ, US
September, 2016
TARGET: 31 wounded in bombing in New York City; several explosive devices found in New York and New Jersey; one exploded without casualty at race in New Jersey; one police officer wounded in shootout
ATTACKER: Ahmad Khan Rahami

BRUSSELS, BELGIUM
October, 2016
TARGET: Two police officers wounded in stabbing
ATTACKER: Belgian national

KUWAIT CITY, KUWAIT
TARGET: No casualties; vehicle carrying three US soldiers hit by a truck
ATTACKER: Ibrahim Sulayman

MALMO, SWEDEN
October, 2016
TARGET: No casualties; mosque and community center attacked with Molotov cocktail
ATTACKER: Syrian national

HAMBURG, GERMANY
October, 2016
TARGET: One killed in knife attack
ATTACKER: Unknown

MANILA, PHILIPPINES
November, 2016
TARGET: No casualties; failed IED attempt near US Embassy
ATTACKERS: Philippine nationals aligned with the Maute group

COLUMBUS, OH, US
November, 2016
TARGET: 14 wounded by individuals who drove a vehicle into a group of pedestrians and attacked them with a knife
ATTACKER: US person

N’DJAMENA, CHAD
November, 2016
TARGET: No casualties; attacker arrested after opening fire at entrance of US Embassy
ATTACKER: Chadian national

KARAK, JORDAN
December, 2016
TARGET: 10 killed and 28 wounded in shooting at a tourist site
ATTACKERS: Several gunmen

BERLIN, GERMANY
December, 2016
TARGET: 12 killed and 48 wounded by individual who drove truck into a crowded market
ATTACKER: Anis Amri

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Re: Trump
« Reply #553 on: February 07, 2017, 05:51:20 PM »
Yes, Truth, I just linked to that.
What's your point?

Re: Trump
« Reply #554 on: February 07, 2017, 08:28:10 PM »
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ORLANDO, FL, US
June, 2016
TARGET: 49 killed and 53 wounded in shooting at a nightclub
ATTAKER: US person

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NICE, FRANCE
July, 2016
TARGET: 84 civilians killed and 308 wounded by an individual who drove a truck into a crowd
ATTACKER: Mohamed Bouhlel

[...]

PARIS, FRANCE
November, 2015
TARGET: At least 129 killed and approximately 400 wounded in series of shootings and IED attacks
ATTAKERS: Brahim Abdelslam, Saleh Abdeslam, Ismail Mostefai, Bilal Hadfi, Samy Amimour, Chakib Ahrouh, Foued Mohamed Aggad, and Abdelhamid Abaaoud

Damn these terrorist attacks that don't get mentioned!

Also lol "Attaker", "US Person"
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Re: Trump
« Reply #555 on: February 07, 2017, 09:32:16 PM »
http://www.npr.org/2017/02/06/513777052/trump-says-media-fail-to-report-terrorist-attacks-white-house-promises-list

I am amazed at how brazen they are with their lies. Most politicians would make a vague/unsupported claim, and then hope people forget about it or don't care enough to fact check them.

This administration seems to double down on their lies over and over again and goes out of their way to make it easy to discredit them. That list is full of attacks that most definitely got heavily reported. How on earth are there still people supporting Trump? How on earth does he not have a 100% disapproval rating? Baffling.

(Yes, I do understand the irony of asking that question on this particular website.)

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Re: Trump
« Reply #556 on: February 07, 2017, 09:48:44 PM »
http://www.npr.org/2017/02/06/513777052/trump-says-media-fail-to-report-terrorist-attacks-white-house-promises-list

I am amazed at how brazen they are with their lies. Most politicians would make a vague/unsupported claim, and then hope people forget about it or don't care enough to fact check them.

This administration seems to double down on their lies over and over again and goes out of their way to make it easy to discredit them. That list is full of attacks that most definitely got heavily reported. How on earth are there still people supporting Trump? How on earth does he not have a 100% disapproval rating? Baffling.

(Yes, I do understand the irony of asking that question on this particular website.)
I'm watching a program on NRK and they're interviewing a few journalists from America and the current guest is saying that people believe whatever they want to believe and Trump gave them what they already believed.  He told them what they wanted to hear so it doesn't matter what he said, what lies he spews, they'll follow him.

Re: Trump
« Reply #557 on: February 07, 2017, 09:58:53 PM »
http://www.npr.org/2017/02/06/513777052/trump-says-media-fail-to-report-terrorist-attacks-white-house-promises-list

I am amazed at how brazen they are with their lies. Most politicians would make a vague/unsupported claim, and then hope people forget about it or don't care enough to fact check them.

This administration seems to double down on their lies over and over again and goes out of their way to make it easy to discredit them. That list is full of attacks that most definitely got heavily reported. How on earth are there still people supporting Trump? How on earth does he not have a 100% disapproval rating? Baffling.

(Yes, I do understand the irony of asking that question on this particular website.)
I'm watching a program on NRK and they're interviewing a few journalists from America and the current guest is saying that people believe whatever they want to believe and Trump gave them what they already believed.  He told them what they wanted to hear so it doesn't matter what he said, what lies he spews, they'll follow him.

Yeah, it was kind of a rhetorical question. I know quite a few people that still support Trump in spite of everything he has said. Many of them can provide very rational sounding arguments as to why they support him, although their arguments are fueled by a Fox News + conservative talk radio echo chamber of biased opinions. But when Trump's blatant lies get brought up, they go into full blinder/denial mode. Or alternatively, "but the dems did it first and 10x worse in every way!". Or "it doesn't matter what he says, only what he does!". It's disheartening because these are people that I normally respect.

Edit: To be clear, I agree with those journalists' take. Facts don't matter. He is saying what they want to hear.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #558 on: February 08, 2017, 04:45:01 PM »
http://www.npr.org/2017/02/06/513777052/trump-says-media-fail-to-report-terrorist-attacks-white-house-promises-list

I am amazed at how brazen they are with their lies. Most politicians would make a vague/unsupported claim, and then hope people forget about it or don't care enough to fact check them.

This administration seems to double down on their lies over and over again and goes out of their way to make it easy to discredit them. That list is full of attacks that most definitely got heavily reported. How on earth are there still people supporting Trump? How on earth does he not have a 100% disapproval rating? Baffling.

(Yes, I do understand the irony of asking that question on this particular website.)

There is no lie here, and you know it. This is a list that the Trump administration FEELS didn't get enough coverage.

And even if they were covered, now every news agency has to cover it again, and to be honest, when you see it in Chronological list view, it doesn't state a very good case for Islam being the religion of peace. Obviously that was the point of making the list and even the claim that the attacks weren't covered, to draw attention to this black and white, plain as day, chronological list of terrorists attacks.

I've even heard people say that KellyAnne Conway purposely called it the Bowling Green Massacre to draw people's attention to an attempted attack by VETTED refugees that most people never heard of or knew a lot about.

Do you not see how these people are beating the press at their own game? Trump literally rode free publicity to the White House, and the media is just doubling down on their failed methods, it's hilarious.
« Last Edit: February 08, 2017, 04:58:04 PM by TheTruthIsOnHere »

Re: Trump
« Reply #559 on: February 08, 2017, 05:07:48 PM »
There is no lie here, and you know it. This is a list that the Trump administration FEELS didn't get enough coverage.

i.e. a pointless list that attempts to back up the baseless claim that the news media are not covering terrorist attacks. What he feels is largely irrelevant.

And even if they were covered, now every news agency has to cover it again, and to be honest, when you see it in Chronological list view, it doesn't state a very good case for Islam being the religion of peace.

Not all of the attacks are committed by Islamists, not all of them are even terror attacks, and even fewer came from the countries Trump banned.

Obviously that was the point of making the list and even the claim that the attacks weren't covered, to draw attention to this black and white, plain as day, chronological list of terrorists attacks.

The point may have been to draw attention to a list of terror attacks, but it was still a lie that the media doesn't cover them. All the major attacks on this list got covered in some way. How Trump feels about the coverage, again, is his own business. But I'm pretty sure it's a lie to say that the Orlando attack, for instance, was "covered up".

Do you not see how these people are beating the press at their own game? Trump literally rode free publicity to the White House, and the media is just doubling down on their failed methods, it's hilarious.

His negative approval ratings would seem to indicate his 4D triwizard tournament chess bonanza isn't working that well.