This isn't a debate. ... I would suggest you learn what it means to debate, and maybe try again when you better understand what it means.
I would really like to have an actual discussion and/or debate regarding various issues pertaining to the shape of the earth. I have done quite well in discussions and debates previously. Unfortunately, I'm afraid that, like geckothegeek, I don't know what it means to debate/discuss with you, or at least I need a better understanding of it. Can you point me to an example of what you would consider a debate/discussion between people who have learned what it means to debate and understand it well? Or perhaps you could outline for me how a debate should be performed.
And here is the question the OP is wanting to have an actual discussion about:
Junker asks why we don't start a thread.
Well, I thought I did, and was asking for the Flat Earth explanation of five observations. I did say that a responder could pick one topic, but no-one has.
So I ask straight out "How is a lunar eclipse explained on the Flat Earth?"
The TFES Wki gives the following explanation:
The Lunar Eclipse
A Lunar Eclipse occurs about twice a year when a satellite of the sun passes between the sun and moon.
This satellite is called the Shadow Object. Its orbital plane is tilted at an angle of about 5°10' to the sun's orbital plane, making eclipses possible only when the three bodies (Sun, Object, and Moon) are aligned and when the moon is crossing the sun's orbital plane (at a point called the node).
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The shadow object is never seen because it orbits close to the sun. As the sun's powerful vertical rays hit the atmosphere during the day they will scatter and blot out nearly every single star and celestial body in the sky. We are never given a glimpse of the celestial bodies which appear near the sun during the day - they are completely washed out by the sun's light.[1]
It is estimated that the Shadow Object is around five to ten miles in diameter. Since it is somewhat close to the sun the manifestation of its penumbra upon the moon appears as a magnified projection. This is similar to how during a shadow puppet show your hand's shadow can make a large magnified projection upon your bedroom wall as you move it closer to the flashlight.
The geometry I interpret from the Wiki for a lunar eclipse is:
Flat Earth Sun, Shadow Object and Lunar Eclipse
I cannot see how this explanation is feasible. It does not matter where the "Shadow Object" is located
a "five to ten miles in diameter" "Shadow Object" simply cannot block all the light from a 32 mile diameter sun from reaching a 32 mile diameter moon.
Also any object that size and distance would have shown up on radar long ago.
The topic of lunar eclipses has been brought up numerous times here and on TheFlatEarthSociety.org numerous times and as far as I am concerned no-one has any plausible "flat earth" explanation.
I tried to get some answers to this and the related "moon phases" problem in
Why should anyone believe the earth is flat? « Reply #75 on: March 16, 2016, 11:08:14 PM ».
How does a Full Moon appear Full for everyone? « on: April 28, 2016, 08:40:55 AM »
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So what is the cause of a lunar eclipse?
In addition to the above quote , there are several questionable aspects to a flat earth lunar eclipse.
If the moon and the sun are at the same altitude above the earth and the sun acts like a spot light and shines directly down to earth, how is any light from the sun going to reach the moon to cause illumination of the moon by reflecting light from the sun ?
The diagram shows the sun as being more omni-directional instead of acting like a spotlight.
If the light from the sun did not reach the moon the "dark object" would have no effect in causing a lunar eclipse.
The flat earth idea of the moon being self-illuminated would seem to fit in more with the flat earth idea that a lunar eclipse is caused by the "dark object" getting between the earth and the moon.
On the flat earth, do the moon and the sun travel at the same speed and are always separated by exactly opposite, or 180 degrees ?
If the moon and the sun were the same size and at the same altitude and traveled at different speeds, it looks as if there would be a collision some time between the moon and the sun.
You really need to discard any belief in reality to try to figure out some of these flat earth ideas. LOL
But isn't so-called "Flat Earth Theory" just a bunch of different ideas from different flat-earthers ? They all seem to disagree with each other ?
When we get through with TFES lunar eclipse, would somebody like to explain TFES horizon ?
But , for the present, please explain how a lunar eclipse would work if the earth was flat !This is a good project for fantasy-fiction writers. Rowbotham was pretty good at it.