[phayes9891]

How do you explain the existence of the coriolis effect and trade winds on a flat non rotating earth? Even if the earth were flat and rotating, that would not work either, because the effect is flipped from right to left in the north to south hemisphere.

[rabinoz]

How do you explain the existence of the coriolis effect and trade winds on a flat non rotating earth? Even if the earth were flat and rotating, that would not work either, because the effect is flipped from right to left in the north to south hemisphere.

If it won't fit into their theory, you might find it hard to get a response.

[İntikam]

Coriolis Effect is a lie. All of the Coriolis Effect tests are fraudulent. Water turns which direction you want to turn it !

[rabinoz]

Coriolis Effect is a lie. All of the Coriolis Effect tests are fraudulent. Water turns which direction you want to turn it !

Yes, water in small containers are not affected enough by the Coriolis effect to affect the way it rotates, but
claim what you like.
Hurricanes (in the Northern Hemisphere) do rotate anti-clockwise and
Cyclones (in the Southern Hemisphere) do rotate clockwise.

That is a fact,

Deny it you want, but it still remains true.

[Rounder]

Water turns which direction you want to turn it !

The 'water down the drain' experiments have been proven to be almost worthless, that's true.  However, it is possible to create a more rigorous version of that demonstration.  Check out what Destin of Smarter Every Day did in collaboration with Derek of Veritasium.

Northern Hemisphere:
Southern Hemisphere:

Both together on one page

[İntikam]

Coriolis Effect is a lie. All of the Coriolis Effect tests are fraudulent. Water turns which direction you want to turn it !

Yes, water in small containers are not affected enough by the Coriolis effect to affect the way it rotates, but
claim what you like.
Hurricanes (in the Northern Hemisphere) do rotate anti-clockwise and
Cyclones (in the Southern Hemisphere) do rotate clockwise.

That is a fact,

Deny it you want, but it still remains true.

Water turns which direction you want to turn it !

The 'water down the drain' experiments have been proven to be almost worthless, that's true.  However, it is possible to create a more rigorous version of that demonstration.  Check out what Destin of Smarter Every Day did in collaboration with Derek of Veritasium.

Northern Hemisphere:
Southern Hemisphere:

Both together on one page

I done an experiment about it. I'll post it as "disproving Coriolis Effect". I made several experiments about it and the direction were completely in coincidence, not to a spesific direction. I can't publish it because 10 minutes video was about 1,5 GB. I'll shrink it to an acceptable size for youtube and show you how it is casually and nonsense.

So Coriolis Effect is not reproducible and accurate. So it is not scientific. So Coriolis Effect  is a superstition, not a scientific evidence! So it can not be presented as an evidence!

Publisher the matter saying that:

because the effect is flipped from right to left in the north to south hemisphere.

This is not true because opposite is true too!  I would argue that the chance of flipping direction from left to right has same probability with from right to left on the Northern hemisphere. the chance of flipping direction from left to right has same probability with from right to left on the Southern hemisphere too. You can not prove your "theory" but i can prove what i say. Because i did it with an experiment. I'm not telling you a fable like you do.

Coriolis Effect is theorical sensible but practical meaningless because the earth hasn't two hemispheres!

[rabinoz]

Coriolis Effect is a lie. All of the Coriolis Effect tests are fraudulent. Water turns which direction you want to turn it !

Yes, water in small containers are not affected enough by the Coriolis effect to affect the way it rotates, but
claim what you like.
Hurricanes (in the Northern Hemisphere) do rotate anti-clockwise and
Cyclones (in the Southern Hemisphere) do rotate clockwise.

That is a fact,

Deny it you want, but it still remains true.

I done an experiment about it. I'll post it as "disproving Coriolis Effect". I made several experiments about it and the direction were completely in coincidence, not to a spesific direction. I can't publish it because 10 minutes video was about 1,5 GB. I'll shrink it to an acceptable size for youtube and show you how it is casually and nonsense.

So Coriolis Effect is not reproducible and accurate. So it is not scientific. So Coriolis Effect  is a superstition, not a scientific evidence! So it can not be presented as an evidence!

Publisher the matter saying that:

because the effect is flipped from right to left in the north to south hemisphere.

This is not true because opposite is true too!  I would argue that the chance of flipping direction from left to right has same probability with from right to left on the Northern hemisphere. the chance of flipping direction from left to right has same probability with from right to left on the Southern hemisphere too. You can not prove your "theory" but i can prove what i say. Because i did it with an experiment. I'm not telling you a fable like you do.

Coriolis Effect is theorical sensible but practical meaningless because the earth hasn't two hemispheres!

Whatever you claim, there is still this:

Yes, water in small containers are not affected enough by the Coriolis effect to affect the way it rotates, but as I said before:

Hurricanes (in the Northern Hemisphere) do rotate anti-clockwise and
Cyclones (in the Southern Hemisphere) do rotate clockwise.

That is a fact,

Deny it you want, but it still remains true.

[İntikam]

Coriolis Effect is a lie. All of the Coriolis Effect tests are fraudulent. Water turns which direction you want to turn it !

Yes, water in small containers are not affected enough by the Coriolis effect to affect the way it rotates, but
claim what you like.
Hurricanes (in the Northern Hemisphere) do rotate anti-clockwise and
Cyclones (in the Southern Hemisphere) do rotate clockwise.

That is a fact,

Deny it you want, but it still remains true.

I done an experiment about it. I'll post it as "disproving Coriolis Effect". I made several experiments about it and the direction were completely in coincidence, not to a spesific direction. I can't publish it because 10 minutes video was about 1,5 GB. I'll shrink it to an acceptable size for youtube and show you how it is casually and nonsense.

So Coriolis Effect is not reproducible and accurate. So it is not scientific. So Coriolis Effect  is a superstition, not a scientific evidence! So it can not be presented as an evidence!

Publisher the matter saying that:

because the effect is flipped from right to left in the north to south hemisphere.

This is not true because opposite is true too!  I would argue that the chance of flipping direction from left to right has same probability with from right to left on the Northern hemisphere. the chance of flipping direction from left to right has same probability with from right to left on the Southern hemisphere too. You can not prove your "theory" but i can prove what i say. Because i did it with an experiment. I'm not telling you a fable like you do.

Coriolis Effect is theorical sensible but practical meaningless because the earth hasn't two hemispheres!

Whatever you claim, there is still this:

Yes, water in small containers are not affected enough by the Coriolis effect to affect the way it rotates, but as I said before:

Hurricanes (in the Northern Hemisphere) do rotate anti-clockwise and
Cyclones (in the Southern Hemisphere) do rotate clockwise.

That is a fact,

Deny it you want, but it still remains true.

Who got a statistics about the rotate side of Hurricanes and Cyclones? If the statistic experiment confirmed to any direction is more than other, who proven what causes it?

And stop continuously saying "deny or not". You are proving nothing but you are speaking a lot.

[rabinoz]

Who got a statistics about the rotate side of Hurricanes and Cyclones? If the statistic experiment confirmed to any direction is more than other, who proven what causes it?

And stop continuously saying "deny or not". You are proving nothing but you are speaking a lot.

I could just as well say to you "You are proving nothing but you are speaking a lot."

We do not need statistics. You really do have to learn how to read a weather map and learn a bit about meteorology.

Read up a bit in this reference How to Read Weather Maps
or find something similar in your own country.

But denying this will not make it go away, nor will doing toy experiments on a small scale.

In the Northern Hemisphere and far enough from the equator
          Low atmospheric pressure areas (called simply Lows or just L on a weather chart), including Hurricanes[/b] have wind rotating anti-clockwise
          High atmospheric pressure areas (called simply Highs or just H on a weather chart), have wind rotating clockwise
 and

in the Southern Hemisphere and far enough from the equator
          Low atmospheric pressure areas (called simply Lows or just L on a weather chart), including Cyclones[/b] have wind rotating clockwise
          High atmospheric pressure areas (called simply Highs or just H on a weather chart), have wind rotating anti-clockwise.

Just look at meteorological charts for the Northern and Southern Hemispheres. I have seen no other Flat Earth believer deny simple facts like these.

That is not a matter of conjecture or statistics, it is simply what happens and there is nothing that you or I can do about it.

That is a fact,

Deny it all you want, but it still remains true.

Now, please go and ask someone in your own country about this because it's not a matter of anyone lying to you and it has nothing to do with NASA, these things were known long before NASA came on scene.

Please believe me when I say that you are simply making yourself look ignorant and foolish.

[İntikam]

Who got a statistics about the rotate side of Hurricanes and Cyclones? If the statistic experiment confirmed to any direction is more than other, who proven what causes it?

And stop continuously saying "deny or not". You are proving nothing but you are speaking a lot.

I could just as well say to you "You are proving nothing but you are speaking a lot."

We do not need statistics. You really do have to learn how to read a weather map and learn a bit about meteorology.

Read up a bit in this reference How to Read Weather Maps
or find something similar in your own country.

But denying this will not make it go away, nor will doing toy experiments on a small scale.

In the Northern Hemisphere and far enough from the equator
          Low atmospheric pressure areas (called simply Lows or just L on a weather chart), including Hurricanes[/b] have wind rotating anti-clockwise
          High atmospheric pressure areas (called simply Highs or just H on a weather chart), have wind rotating clockwise
 and

in the Southern Hemisphere and far enough from the equator
          Low atmospheric pressure areas (called simply Lows or just L on a weather chart), including Cyclones[/b] have wind rotating clockwise
          High atmospheric pressure areas (called simply Highs or just H on a weather chart), have wind rotating anti-clockwise.

Just look at meteorological charts for the Northern and Southern Hemispheres. I have seen no other Flat Earth believer deny simple facts like these.

That is not a matter of conjecture or statistics, it is simply what happens and there is nothing that you or I can do about it.

That is a fact,

Deny it all you want, but it still remains true.

Now, please go and ask someone in your own country about this because it's not a matter of anyone lying to you and it has nothing to do with NASA, these things were known long before NASA came on scene.

Please believe me when I say that you are simply making yourself look ignorant and foolish.

I don't read the writing after you wrote "We do not need statistics. ". I don't want to discuss anymore with someone "rounder" but deny the science.

[Rounder]

Who got a statistics about the rotate side of Hurricanes and Cyclones? If the statistic experiment confirmed to any direction is more than other, who proven what causes it?

I tried to find some ststistics for you, but the best I could do all in one place is a set of satellite photos, and I'm not sure you accept satellite evidence.  Here's a collection of northern hemisphere overheads, showing the characteristic spiral in one direction, and here are the southern hemisphere storms, spiralling the other way.  Not every storm ever, but a representative sample. 
It seems that nobody compiles the rotation direction in a list, for the same reason that nobody compiles the roation direction of the stars in a list: because it is always the same.  There is no information to be gained, no insight to uncover, no predictive value, no reason to waste time and space in a spreadsheet or web site on a column that records rotation, since every northern hemisphere storm rotates the same way.  Just as they don't compile stats on "was there rain?"  Because YES there was rain, there is ALWAYS rain, it would be of no value to have "Rain yes/no" column.

Coriolis Effect is a lie. All of the Coriolis Effect tests are fraudulent. Water turns which direction you want to turn it !

By making an extraordinary claim such as this, you accept burden of proof: why don't YOU go out and find a counter-example?  If there has ever been a clockwise northern hemisphere huuricane, that would support this extraordinary claim.

[rabinoz]

I don't read the writing after you wrote "We do not need statistics. ". I don't want to discuss anymore with someone "rounder" but deny the science.

I am denying no science!

What science are you doing on Hurricanes and Cyclones - fiddling with a few tubs of water?

We do not need statistics because it is not a matter of chance. What I stated is what is observed. It's as simple as that.

As you the one are claiming I am wrong, it is up to you to find a
          hurricane rotating anti-clockwise on the Southern Hemisphere or a
          cyclone rotating clockwise on the Northern Hemisphere.

Just look at:

Map of the cumulative tracks of all tropical cyclones during the 1985–2005 time period.

Actually if you hunt diligently you might find that there was one very weak hurricane that wandered just across the equator - and promptly "died"! You might find that one just south-west of Sri Lanka.

So if you want statistics there is one very doubtful exception out of about 1,700 tropical storms over the period 1988 to 2005.

A little telling that the band with virtually no tropical storms is centred on the equator. 

If you are willing to learn anything, you could read more in: Wikipedia, Tropical cyclone.

Bye, bye!

[İntikam]

Picture proves nothing.

[Copper Knickers]

@Intikam

The statistics are that all large low pressure weather systems in the northern hemisphere turn anti-clockwise and all large low pressure weather systems in the southern hemisphere turn clockwise.

If you can find an example that breaks this rule then show it.

Otherwise, accept the Coriolis effect or provide another reason why this rule holds.

[rabinoz]

Picture proves nothing.

The picture, along with the reference I gave proves a lot!

Tropical cyclone A tropical cyclone is a rapidly rotating storm system characterized by a low-pressure center, a closed low-level atmospheric circulation, strong winds, and a spiral arrangement of thunderstorms that produce heavy rain. Depending on its location and strength, a tropical cyclone is referred to by names such as hurricane , typhoon , tropical storm, cyclonic storm, tropical depression, and simply cyclone. Tropical cyclones typically form over large bodies of relatively warm water. They derive their energy through the evaporation of water from the ocean surface, which ultimately recondenses into clouds and rain when moist air rises and cools to saturation. This energy source differs from that of mid-latitude cyclonic storms, such as nor'easters and European windstorms, which are fueled primarily by horizontal temperature contrasts. The strong rotating winds of a tropical cyclone are a result of the conservation of angular momentum imparted by the Earth's rotation as air flows inwards toward the axis of rotation. As a result, they rarely form within 5° of the equator.Tropical cyclones are typically between 100 and 2,000 km (62 and 1,243 mi) in diameter. Tropical refers to the geographical origin of these systems, which form almost exclusively over tropical seas. Cyclone refers to their cyclonic nature, with wind blowing counterclockwise in the Northern Hemisphere and clockwise in the Southern Hemisphere. The opposite direction of circulation is due to the Coriolis effect.

Hurricane Isabel (2003) as seen from orbit during Expedition 7 of the International Space Station. The eye, eyewall, and surrounding rainbands, characteristics of tropical cyclones in the narrow sense, are clearly visible in this view from space.

From: Wikipedia, Tropical cyclone

Deny all the facts you want, but it does not make them any less true. I live in the Southern Hemisphere and I know first hand that cyclones rootate clock-wise down here.

Even if you call black white, it is still just as black.

[İntikam]

Picture proves nothing.

The picture, along with the reference I gave proves a lot!

Tropical cyclone A tropical cyclone is a rapidly rotating storm system characterized by a low-pressure center, a closed low-level atmospheric circulation, strong winds, and a spiral arrangement of thunderstorms that produce heavy rain. Depending on its location and strength, a tropical cyclone is referred to by names such as hurricane , typhoon , tropical storm, cyclonic storm, tropical depression, and simply cyclone. Tropical cyclones typically form over large bodies of relatively warm water. They derive their energy through the evaporation of water from the ocean surface, which ultimately recondenses into clouds and rain when moist air rises and cools to saturation. This energy source differs from that of mid-latitude cyclonic storms, such as nor'easters and European windstorms, which are fueled primarily by horizontal temperature contrasts. The strong rotating winds of a tropical cyclone are a result of the conservation of angular momentum imparted by the Earth's rotation as air flows inwards toward the axis of rotation. As a result, they rarely form within 5° of the equator.Tropical cyclones are typically between 100 and 2,000 km (62 and 1,243 mi) in diameter. Tropical refers to the geographical origin of these systems, which form almost exclusively over tropical seas. Cyclone refers to their cyclonic nature, with wind blowing counterclockwise in the Northern Hemisphere and clockwise in the Southern Hemisphere. The opposite direction of circulation is due to the Coriolis effect.

Hurricane Isabel (2003) as seen from orbit during Expedition 7 of the International Space Station. The eye, eyewall, and surrounding rainbands, characteristics of tropical cyclones in the narrow sense, are clearly visible in this view from space.

From: Wikipedia, Tropical cyclone

Deny all the facts you want, but it does not make them any less true. I live in the Southern Hemisphere and I know first hand that cyclones rootate clock-wise down here.

Even if you call black white, it is still just as black.

It is only one Huricane means nothing about statistics. This is just superstition that you believed like a stupid.

[Rounder]

It is only one Huricane means nothing about statistics. This is just superstition that you believed like a stupid.

It is hilarious when you make our point for us!  You are exactly right, one hurricane means nothing.  That "one hurricane" is the only one EVER that does not follow the pattern we've pointed out, and even that one actually does prove the effect.  When it crossed the equator, it vanished soon after because coriolis effect was working against the hurricane's wind direction, which killed it.

Thanks for that!

[phayes9891]

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=56479.0

This has a great post explaining how trade winds work, and also somewhat explaining there has to be a coriolis effect to have trade winds.
There is another post on there stating you can have the coriolis effect on a flat earth which is false, since it is in different directions in the two hemispheres.
You can not test the coriolis effect with a tub of water, or by flushing a toilet, those are on a much smaller scale.
You could fly a plane north or south without using a correction and you would end up landing east or west of your target because of the rotation of our spherical earth. If you did happen to fly and land at your intended target you would wave evidence, but seeing as planes have to account for the coriolis effect and we do actually have trade winds I doubt you'll come up with anything.