[AstronomyMaster]

So, what are your thoughts about this:
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=67051.0

[juner]

It looks like a link to a thread on another forum.

[Luke 22:35-38]

It looks like a link to a thread on another forum.

Brilliant deduction Einstein.

[juner]

It looks like a link to a thread on another forum.

Brilliant deduction Einstein.

I agree. It was concise and accurate. Bold, yet unassuming.

[AstronomyMaster]

I mean, is what FlatEarthDenial says on the thread I linked to legit? If it is, I think it should reach many more people.

[juner]

I mean, is what FlatEarthDenial says on the thread I linked to legit? If it is, I think it should reach many more people.

From what I see after a cursory glance, no. It looks like s/he is building quite the strawman, or using quotes from people that couldn't make a decent argument. First one:

If the Earth were spinning at a very high rate, everything would fly off into space.

No one really makes this argument unless they are very new to the mechanics of RE or FE.

Horizon seems to be rising with you as you climb.

This one seems entirely irrelevant.

The tops of the clouds are illuminated during the sunset as well as the bottoms. You can see this from an airplane. that proves our postulates about the perspective.

The response to this one has no bearing on earth's shape. I am wondering who ever made these arguments, unless it was all from YouTube videos...

Ships over the horizon reappear when you look at them through a telescope.

This one is a legit argument and those who have completed the experiment have confirmed it. The OP's counter-argument in the linked thread is non-existent beyond "I haven't seen it" and "I didn't like the answers I received about it before."


It gets even more verbose after that. If you have specific questions about the content of that linked post you want to ask, I will do my best to answer. But it looks like the OP of that post threw a bunch of crap against the wall to see if anything would stick. Doesn't look like much, if any of it does.

[TotesNotReptilian]

Ships over the horizon reappear when you look at them through a telescope.

This one is a legit argument and those who have completed the experiment have confirmed it.

We literally just had a huge thread about this topic. No evidence was presented that supported this argument. Is there some secret stash of evidence that you are saving for a rainy day?

[juner]

Is there some secret stash of evidence that you are saving for a rainy day?

Was there something about my post that indicated the evidence was anything other than anecdotal by people who have performed, or claimed to perform the experiment?

[TotesNotReptilian]

Is there some secret stash of evidence that you are saving for a rainy day?

Was there something about my post that indicated the evidence was anything other than anecdotal by people who have performed, or claimed to perform the experiment?

Not really. So you are claiming that you have seen the experiment performed, and the results confirmed the statement, but it wasn't documented in a way that can be presented over the internet?

I call bullcrap.

[juner]

So you are claiming that you have seen the experiment performed

Are you feeling okay? I literally never said that.

[Rama Set]

So you are claiming that you have seen the experiment performed

Are you feeling okay? I literally never said that.

Perhaps the better question is: do you know who has completed the experiment?

[juner]

do you know who has completed the experiment?

Personally? No. Is that somehow relevant?

[Rama Set]

do you know who has completed the experiment?

Personally? No. Is that somehow relevant?

I just meant, do you know the name of someone who has completed the experiment. 

[TotesNotReptilian]

So you are claiming that you have seen the experiment performed

Are you feeling okay? I literally never said that.

Sorry, allow me to correct that: "you, or someone you talked to, or someone they talked to, etc..."

do you know who has completed the experiment?

Personally? No. Is that somehow relevant?

So you didn't do it yourself, you don't know who did it, you can't provide any evidence of the experiment being done... and yet you still feel confident enough to say that it has been "confirmed"?

I am going to stick to my original conclusion: bullcrap.

Edit: Ah, you were trying to dodge the question by being pedantic. Do you or do you not know the name of the person doing the experiment? My conclusion stands.

[juner]

do you know who has completed the experiment?

Personally? No. Is that somehow relevant?

I just meant, do you know the name of someone who has completed the experiment.

The real name? No. I know very few names of people in FE communities.

[juner]

So you didn't do it yourself, you don't know who did it, you can't provide any evidence of the experiment being done... and yet you still feel confident enough to say that it has been "confirmed"?

I am going to stick to my original conclusion: bullcrap.

Where did I say I feel it was confirmed? You've built up a nice strawman and a non-sequitur at the same time.

[TotesNotReptilian]

So you didn't do it yourself, you don't know who did it, you can't provide any evidence of the experiment being done... and yet you still feel confident enough to say that it has been "confirmed"?

I am going to stick to my original conclusion: bullcrap.

Where did I say I feel it was confirmed? You've built up a nice strawman and a non-sequitur at the same time.

This one is a legit argument and those who have completed the experiment have confirmed it.

I'm not sure where the "non-sequitur" is.

I see your favorite method of argument is to be as vague as possible, then hammer people for making any assumptions. Fun fun. I also enjoy being a pedantic asshole on occasion, but lets keep it to a minimum, shall we?

[juner]

I'm not sure where the "non-sequitur" is.

those who have completed the experiment have confirmed it

you still feel confident enough to say that it has been "confirmed"?

Your non-sequitur is your conclusion that does not follow the premise. Your conclusion is literally something made up by you even though you deceptively tried to attribute it to me.

Hopefully that clears things up for you.

[Rama Set]

do you know who has completed the experiment?

Personally? No. Is that somehow relevant?

I just meant, do you know the name of someone who has completed the experiment.

The real name? No. I know very few names of people in FE communities.

Nice one.

[TotesNotReptilian]

I'm not sure where the "non-sequitur" is.

those who have completed the experiment have confirmed it

you still feel confident enough to say that it has been "confirmed"?

Your non-sequitur is your conclusion that does not follow the premise. Your conclusion is literally something made up by you even though you deceptively tried to attribute it to me.

Hopefully that clears things up for you.

*beep boop* ...pedantic asshole mode engaged... *boop beep*

"those... have confirmed it" -- junker
"you... say that it has been confirmed?" -- me

How on earth is this a non-sequitur? I did not say that you personally confirmed it. I said that you said that it has been confirmed by someone.

I will now try to lay down the facts as clearly as I can, as far as I know them, based on what you have said.

1. "Someone" did an experiment which, according to them, confirms the statement "Ships over the horizon reappear when you look at them through a telescope."
2. You don't personally know this "someone".
3. You don't know the real name of this "someone".
4. You were not present when the experiment took place.
5. You don't have any good documentation of this experiment that you can share with us. (preferably video or photo documentation)
6. You agree with the "someone" that the experiment does indeed confirm the above statement.

Is this correct? If not, which part is incorrect? If it is, I feel safe sticking to my original conclusion: buuuuuuullcrap. (translation: I seriously doubt that the "experiment", if it even took place, confirms the aforementioned statement.)