[Cold Moon]

Is The Moon A Dormant Cold Sun
Over A Slightly Concave Flat Earth?

Flat Earth researchers have discovered numerous anomalies regarding the Moon that are not taught in science classes. Regardless if you believe either the round or flat earth theory, these are the hidden facts about the Moon.

1.   The Moon has translucent characteristics
A.   Blue sky can been seen in the dark areas of the Moon during the daytime.
B.   Stars are observed in areas of the Moon that are supposed to be dark or in shade (no sunlight) during various phases 
 
2.   The temperature on the top of a picnic table at night during any phase of the Moon is COLDER than the temperature in the shade underneath the table. These cold temperature waves at night stimulate plant growth such as tomatoes. The light emanating from the Moon is not WARM reflected light rays from the Sun therefore the Moon is logically a light/ electromagnetic generator emanating “cold waves.”

3.   NASA claimed that they put men on the Moon during the Apollo program therefore they solved the problem of transporting humans through the deadly Van Allen radiation belts not only while going to the Moon but also when returning humans from the Moon.  However in 2014 NASA released a video regarding the Orion program that plainly states they are diligently “working on” the Van Allen belt problem. Why is NASA working on the problem in 2014 that was supposedly solved during the Apollo program? Was the Apollo program a fake due the true nature of the Moon? – A translucent cold energy generator with a round flat surface rather than ball shaped with a hard surface containing solid chemical elements?

Can the cold wave conditions of the Moon increase to the level of a “Cold Sun” thus emanating far more intense lower and pervasive temperature waves?

Sun/Moon Cycles?
Sun – male/yang/left spin – red to green spectrum
Moon – female/yin/right spin – cyan to magenta spectrum

Active Hot Sun – Dormant Cold Moon or Probable Current Phase
Deserts, periodic droughts and heat waves and deeper and more pervasive oceans and rivers.

Dormant Hot Sun – Active Cold Moon
Ice Age with shallower oceans and less active rivers and no deserts.

Dormant Hot Sun – Dormant Cold Moon
Desolation, regeneration and continual plowing under of the surface with volcanoes dominating the land and ocean areas.

Active Hot Sun – Active Cold Moon
Reduced ice and very few small desert areas with North Africa, Gobi region and western U.S. lush in water and vegetation.
Garden of Eden, Shangri-La & Bali Ha’i all rolled into one – supports all sizes and shapes of human, animal and plant life forms including dinosaurs.  An eclipse of the Sun by the Moon during this period could trigger significant abrupt geological changes such as the disappearance of Atlantis.

Each cycle creates specific kinds of chemical elements that hold over to the other cycles.

Do all cycles have the same duration or do they differ?

How are the Sun/Moon cycles controlled? – By natural processes or deliberate manipulations by an intelligent and technologically advanced life form therefore requiring a practical rather than an esoteric “god.”

If our home is a flat plain then the surface of the Earth logically has to be slightly concave (intended) with a massive frozen ice rim on the edges to contain the water.

[Rounder]

I watched part of your video.  Right up until the word "Freemason" appeared, at which point I knew any hope of thoughtful exchange of ideas was lost.  It's the conspiracy corollary of Godwin's Law.

[rabinoz]

Is The Moon A Dormant Cold Sun
Over A Slightly Concave Flat Earth?
Flat Earth researchers have discovered numerous anomalies regarding the Moon that are not taught in science classes. Regardless if you believe either the round or flat earth theory, these are the hidden facts about the Moon.
1.   The Moon has translucent characteristics
A.   Blue sky can been seen in the dark areas of the Moon during the daytime.
B.   Stars are observed in areas of the Moon that are supposed to be dark or in shade (no sunlight) during various phases 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH7BjIzXWOg

A. Big deal! The blue sky is between us and the moon. Of course "Blue sky can been seen in the dark areas of the Moon during the daytime."

B. What you mean is that some ancient astronomers reported seeing a bright spot on the moon, like in this report:

"Volcano" on the moon - "The Investigator, Vol III, July and October 1821

I really think that if it was anything but an artifact we would have some photos and more recent reports!

2.   The temperature on the top of a picnic table at night during any phase of the Moon is COLDER than the temperature in the shade underneath the table. These cold temperature waves at night stimulate plant growth such as tomatoes. The light emanating from the Moon is not WARM reflected light rays from the Sun therefore the Moon is logically a light/ electromagnetic generator emanating “cold waves.”

No, this is just rubbish claimed after a few poor measurements. Even the light of a full moon has an intensity of around on millionth that of sunlight, but it's not colder than no light!

You claim "electromagnetic generator emanating “cold waves.”" - Evidence?, other that hear say! Th is no such thing as ""cold electromagnetic waves"!

3.   NASA claimed that they put men on the Moon during the Apollo program therefore they solved the problem of transporting humans through the deadly Van Allen radiation belts not only while going to the Moon but also when returning humans from the Moon.  However in 2014 NASA released a video regarding the Orion program that plainly states they are diligently “working on” the Van Allen belt problem. Why is NASA working on the problem in 2014 that was supposedly solved during the Apollo program?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51DED8dcNkA Was the Apollo program a fake due the true nature of the Moon? – A translucent cold energy generator with a round flat surface rather than ball shaped with a hard surface containing solid chemical elements?

Have YOU ever bothered to read in detail just how NASA "transporting humans through the deadly Van Allen radiation belts". Yes, NASA knew of the Van Allen belts - after all NASA were the ones who mapped them in detail with sounding rockets and satellites. And yes, the Van Allen belts are a problem, but the TYPE of radiation is such that it can be effectively shielded against.

"A translucent cold energy generator with a round flat surface" - just you imagination, again not the slightest bit of evidence! And a  round flat surface 

 
Can the cold wave conditions of the Moon increase to the level of a “Cold Sun” thus emanating far more intense lower and pervasive temperature waves?

Pure hypothesis with again NO evidence!

Sun/Moon Cycles?
Sun – male/yang/left spin – red to green spectrum
Moon – female/yin/right spin – cyan to magenta spectrum
Active Hot Sun – Dormant Cold Moon or Probable Current Phase
Deserts, periodic droughts and heat waves and deeper and more pervasive oceans and rivers.
Dormant Hot Sun – Active Cold Moon
Ice Age with shallower oceans and less active rivers and no deserts.
Dormant Hot Sun – Dormant Cold Moon
Desolation, regeneration and continual plowing under of the surface with volcanoes dominating the land and ocean areas.
Active Hot Sun – Active Cold Moon
Reduced ice and very few small desert areas with North Africa, Gobi region and western U.S. lush in water and vegetation.
Garden of Eden, Shangri-La & Bali Ha’i all rolled into one – supports all sizes and shapes of human, animal and plant life forms including dinosaurs.  An eclipse of the Sun by the Moon during this period could trigger significant abrupt geological changes such as the disappearance of Atlantis.
Each cycle creates specific kinds of chemical elements that hold over to the other cycles.
Do all cycles have the same duration or do they differ?
How are the Sun/Moon cycles controlled? – By natural processes or deliberate manipulations by an intelligent and technologically advanced life form therefore requiring a practical rather than an esoteric “god.”
If our home is a flat plain then the surface of the Earth logically has to be slightly concave (intended) with a massive frozen ice rim on the edges to contain the water.

If, maybe, this is completely guesswork, without the slightest trace of evidence!

You claim "Moon – female/yin/right spin – cyan to magenta spectrum" NO, moonlight has almost the same spectrum as sunlight! Have a look at this:

Full Moon Photo

Yes, it's a bit grainy and not that sharp, but it was taken hand-held at 2 sec, f 2.8 with a ISO rating of 10,000!. The little bright things in the sky are stars, but the colours are pretty much like sunlight - because moonlight is definitely just sunlight reflected of a big dusty object.

Why all this silly conjecture when we have determined the distance to the moon by various methods from the 4th century BC (around 400,000 km), through various astronomical methods (within about 30 km) and then radar (in 1958 at 384,402±1.2 km) and finally laser ranging to millimetre accuracy. What is very significant is that these measurements by numerous quite different mehtods give quite consistent result of ever improving accuracy!

And, if we know the distance to the moon, we can easily calculate its size at 3,474 km!

You Flat (slightly concave or whatever) Earthers keep coming up with new hypotheses  every day! Surely by now you might have decided how things are? 

Sorry about the length!

So keep on dreaming and shutting your eyes to reality!

Sometimes I really think people like yourself are really out to discredit the whole possibility of a Flat Earth! At least TFES tries for a reasonably coherent model, though I do not subscribe to it!

Keep up the good work - you are doing a wonderful job of making the whole idea of a Flat Earth look absolutely ridiculous - suits me!

[Hoppy]

Excellent work cold moon. The rounders on here cannot believe one single thing about the universe unless NASA has given it their stamp of approval.

[rabinoz]

Excellent work cold moon. The rounders on here cannot believe one single thing about the universe unless NASA has given it their stamp of approval.

What utter rubbish! The Globe has been the accepted shape for the earth for well over two thousand years - maybe a little before NASA's time.

The Heliocentric Globe has been accepted for centuries, and NASA's been around about 58 years.

Take off your NASA inhibiting blinkers - they cloud you whole view of reality.

[Rounder]

As far as I can tell, the ancient Greek mathematicians Aristarchus of Samos, Hipparchus, and Ptolemy had no NASA afilliation.  Nor did French astronomer A.C.D Crommelin, who conducted observations between 1905-1910.  They all worked from a round earth view, without NASA telling them to do so.

[Jura-Glenlivet]

Excellent work cold moon. The rounders on here cannot believe one single thing about the universe unless NASA has given it their stamp of approval.

Really? Excellent! Well I suppose if god is real, reality isn’t necessarily your strong point.

I do think that tilting at windmills such as the above is ultimately self-defeating for a RE’er, however much enjoyment there is in arguing, when you drift into the realms of “translucent cold energy generators” hooked up to Yin/Yang and Atlantis by a practical god whose enemy is NASA, you are either dealing with an inventive troll or a complete bampot.

There is no reason here, nothing to be gained, no hold you could possibly grasp to even begin to convince a person whose life choices, educational/reasoning deficiencies, credulity and paranoia have lead them to a world where aliens and angels wrestle the forces of darkness dressed in fake spacesuits.

[TheTruthIsOnHere]

Is The Moon A Dormant Cold Sun
Over A Slightly Concave Flat Earth?

Flat Earth researchers have discovered numerous anomalies regarding the Moon that are not taught in science classes. Regardless if you believe either the round or flat earth theory, these are the hidden facts about the Moon.

1.   The Moon has translucent characteristics
A.   Blue sky can been seen in the dark areas of the Moon during the daytime.
B.   Stars are observed in areas of the Moon that are supposed to be dark or in shade (no sunlight) during various phases 
 
2.   The temperature on the top of a picnic table at night during any phase of the Moon is COLDER than the temperature in the shade underneath the table. These cold temperature waves at night stimulate plant growth such as tomatoes. The light emanating from the Moon is not WARM reflected light rays from the Sun therefore the Moon is logically a light/ electromagnetic generator emanating “cold waves.”

3.   NASA claimed that they put men on the Moon during the Apollo program therefore they solved the problem of transporting humans through the deadly Van Allen radiation belts not only while going to the Moon but also when returning humans from the Moon.  However in 2014 NASA released a video regarding the Orion program that plainly states they are diligently “working on” the Van Allen belt problem. Why is NASA working on the problem in 2014 that was supposedly solved during the Apollo program? Was the Apollo program a fake due the true nature of the Moon? – A translucent cold energy generator with a round flat surface rather than ball shaped with a hard surface containing solid chemical elements?

Can the cold wave conditions of the Moon increase to the level of a “Cold Sun” thus emanating far more intense lower and pervasive temperature waves?

Sun/Moon Cycles?
Sun – male/yang/left spin – red to green spectrum
Moon – female/yin/right spin – cyan to magenta spectrum

Active Hot Sun – Dormant Cold Moon or Probable Current Phase
Deserts, periodic droughts and heat waves and deeper and more pervasive oceans and rivers.

Dormant Hot Sun – Active Cold Moon
Ice Age with shallower oceans and less active rivers and no deserts.

Dormant Hot Sun – Dormant Cold Moon
Desolation, regeneration and continual plowing under of the surface with volcanoes dominating the land and ocean areas.

Active Hot Sun – Active Cold Moon
Reduced ice and very few small desert areas with North Africa, Gobi region and western U.S. lush in water and vegetation.
Garden of Eden, Shangri-La & Bali Ha’i all rolled into one – supports all sizes and shapes of human, animal and plant life forms including dinosaurs.  An eclipse of the Sun by the Moon during this period could trigger significant abrupt geological changes such as the disappearance of Atlantis.

Each cycle creates specific kinds of chemical elements that hold over to the other cycles.

Do all cycles have the same duration or do they differ?

How are the Sun/Moon cycles controlled? – By natural processes or deliberate manipulations by an intelligent and technologically advanced life form therefore requiring a practical rather than an esoteric “god.”

If our home is a flat plain then the surface of the Earth logically has to be slightly concave (intended) with a massive frozen ice rim on the edges to contain the water.

You raise some interesting points, quite possibly too many at once. There are a few people here, as you can tell, that love to angrily debate alternative ideas that go against mainstream thinking like it's their damn job. Thanks for your contributions though, I will be checking out the temperature of objects in the moonlight next full moon to see if I can observe that particular anomaly.

[Unsure101]

You raise some interesting points, quite possibly too many at once. There are a few people here, as you can tell, that love to angrily debate alternative ideas that go against mainstream thinking like it's their damn job. Thanks for your contributions though, I will be checking out the temperature of objects in the moonlight next full moon to see if I can observe that particular anomaly.

I prefer to think of it as shooting down ridiculous claims that contradict proven science.
Seriously, electromagnetic "cold waves"?  What is this, the dark ages?

[Rounder]

Seriously, electromagnetic "cold waves"?  What is this, the dark ages?

Close: it's modern science-babble applied to Rowbotham concepts.  He didn't use the words "electromagnetic cold waves" but the claims he made here would justify such a phrase.  If they were true, that is.

[Hoppy]

Excellent work cold moon. The rounders on here cannot believe one single thing about the universe unless NASA has given it their stamp of approval.

What utter rubbish! The Globe has been the accepted shape for the earth for well over two thousand years - maybe a little before NASA's time.

The Heliocentric Globe has been accepted for centuries, and NASA's been around about 58 years.

Take off your NASA inhibiting blinkers - they cloud you whole view of reality.

Ok, name one thing that you believe that NASA does not subscribe to.

[Rounder]

I believe NASA is not the best organization to move us to the next step of human space exploration.

[rabinoz]

Excellent work cold moon. The rounders on here cannot believe one single thing about the universe unless NASA has given it their stamp of approval.

What utter rubbish! The Globe has been the accepted shape for the earth for well over two thousand years - maybe a little before NASA's time.

The Heliocentric Globe has been accepted for centuries, and NASA's been around about 58 years.

Take off your NASA inhibiting blinkers - they cloud you whole view of reality.

Ok, name one thing that you believe that NASA does not subscribe to.

What on earth are you talking about?

What I believe about the shape of the earth has NOTHING to do with NASA.

Just because NASA "approves" of the Globe and I approve of the Globe does not mean that I check what NASA thinks about anything.

NASA has NOT "changed the shape of the earth"! It was a Globe and accepted as a Globe long before NASA was thought of.

Don't blame them for supressing any ideas of the "Flat Earth".

So as I said before

Take off your NASA inhibiting blinkers - they cloud you whole view of reality.

[TheTruthIsOnHere]

Excellent work cold moon. The rounders on here cannot believe one single thing about the universe unless NASA has given it their stamp of approval.

What utter rubbish! The Globe has been the accepted shape for the earth for well over two thousand years - maybe a little before NASA's time.

The Heliocentric Globe has been accepted for centuries, and NASA's been around about 58 years.

Take off your NASA inhibiting blinkers - they cloud you whole view of reality.

Ok, name one thing that you believe that NASA does not subscribe to.

What on earth are you talking about?

What I believe about the shape of the earth has NOTHING to do with NASA.

Just because NASA "approves" of the Globe and I approve of the Globe does not mean that I check what NASA thinks about anything.

NASA has NOT "changed the shape of the earth"! It was a Globe and accepted as a Globe long before NASA was thought of.

Don't blame them for supressing any ideas of the "Flat Earth".

So as I said before

Take off your NASA inhibiting blinkers - they cloud you whole view of reality.

Over the top formatting aside, I don't think you understood or answered his question (nothing about the shape of the Earth has even been discussed in this thread).

Is there anything you believe, or any ideas you have, that aren't exactly main stream accepted science?

There are alternative theories for lots of phenomena, do you find yourself sided logically, or philosophically, on any that aren't exactly popularly or generally accepted?

[CableDawg]

Excellent work cold moon. The rounders on here cannot believe one single thing about the universe unless NASA has given it their stamp of approval.

What utter rubbish! The Globe has been the accepted shape for the earth for well over two thousand years - maybe a little before NASA's time.

The Heliocentric Globe has been accepted for centuries, and NASA's been around about 58 years.

Take off your NASA inhibiting blinkers - they cloud you whole view of reality.

Ok, name one thing that you believe that NASA does not subscribe to.

What on earth are you talking about?

What I believe about the shape of the earth has NOTHING to do with NASA.

Just because NASA "approves" of the Globe and I approve of the Globe does not mean that I check what NASA thinks about anything.

NASA has NOT "changed the shape of the earth"! It was a Globe and accepted as a Globe long before NASA was thought of.

Don't blame them for supressing any ideas of the "Flat Earth".

So as I said before

Take off your NASA inhibiting blinkers - they cloud you whole view of reality.

Over the top formatting aside, I don't think you understood or answered his question (nothing about the shape of the Earth has even been discussed in this thread).

Is there anything you believe, or any ideas you have, that aren't exactly main stream accepted science?

There are alternative theories for lots of phenomena, do you find yourself sided logically, or philosophically, on any that aren't exactly popularly or generally accepted?

The problem is that, between you and Hoppy, you have moved the goal posts twice since Hoppy's first injection into this thread.

Hoppy's first statement was that of NASA dictating what the majority of the world believes regarding Earth.  This was addressed and answered, directly, by three different people.

Hoppy then changed his argument (presumably because he didn't like the answers to his first question) so as to continue to try to frame NASA as the bad guy because they subscribe to knowledge older than them which proves the Earth to be spherical while also trying to indict, by association, any person who subscribes to the same knowledge.

You have now stepped in and removed NASA all together and are attempting to indict main stream science and those who subscribe to the knowledge gained through the scientific method.

A lesson is debate for both of you:

Don't start with your strongest argument only to have to fall back on a soft argument when your strong argument is proven false or weak.  Your cause would be better served if you started with a soft argument, prove that soft argument, add relevant secondary and tertiary soft arguments (proving each in turn), once this is done those proven soft arguments can then be combined into a coherent hard argument which has a chance of standing against rebuttal.

[TheTruthIsOnHere]

I'm not debating anything, and have nothing at all to do with that previous conversation.

I asked rabinoz a question. I'm not trying to trick him into anything, or win some debate that only exists in your mind. It was a genuine question out of curiosity.

Here's a lesson in life: not every interaction has to have a winner or a loser. Genuine understanding is not born from confirming your own beliefs but accepting why others have theirs.

[rabinoz]

I'm not debating anything, and have nothing at all to do with that previous conversation.

I asked rabinoz a question. I'm not trying to trick him into anything, or win some debate that only exists in your mind. It was a genuine question out of curiosity.

Here's a lesson in life: not every interaction has to have a winner or a loser. Genuine understanding is not born from confirming your own beliefs but accepting why others have theirs.

I agree, see my PM.

[Hoppy]

I was not referring to NASA just in terms of RE FE. I was talking about anything that they say. For instance planet x-3756 is 2.37 trillion light years from us. Or whatever they happen to be talking about. People consider them experts and would not try to say they are wrong about anythng. I am saying that you believe everything NASA says. Therefore anything they say, you will blindly believe. And cannot believe anything else. Brainwashed.

[İntikam]

I'm believing the moon is a camera that opening and closing it's own lens. The moon light is a cold projector light. Actually the moon is at top day and night. But we can't see it's light at day because sunlight impresses it.

But i don't know why and what is this camera recording to?

Notice: In Turkish and in Arabish "kamer" = moon.

In Turkish "kamer" translated to "moon"

https://translate.google.com/#tr/en/kamer

In Arabic "camera" translated to 1-"moon" 2- sattelite

https://translate.google.com/#ar/en/%D9%82%D9%8E%D9%85%D9%8E%D8%B1%D9%8E%D8%A7

(Listen it)

"camer" or "camera" is not a new word. About tousends of years Arabs using this word as "moon".

[Rounder]

You think the moon is a photographic camera, because the Turkish and Arabic word for "moon" is the same as the word for "camera", am I understanding you?  There is a better explanation for the words being the same, you know: some three hundred years ago, it was discovered that you could project an image of the outside scene onto an inside wall of a dark room using a lens in the opposite wall.  This technique was given the name "camera obscura" from the Latin.  Eventually when this technique was miniaturized and turned into a portable device, the term "obscura" was dropped and the device became known simply as a camera.  "Obscura" meant "dark" and "Camera" meant "vaulted room" (and is the word origin for the English word "chamber" as well as the word for the photography device). 

You mention yourself that the Arab word for "moon" is far older than photography is, and therefore predates any possible references to photographic equipment.  It seems likely to me that the Arab word for one of objects high up above the earth might share its word origin with a Latin word for a room with a high ceiling (remember it is a "vaultd room", not an ordinary room).