How big is the universe?
« on: May 08, 2016, 02:42:03 AM »
And while we're at it, in what shape?

I mean this as a truthful question to FEs, because the thought of a universe that is only a few thousand kilometers across is just... depressing.

I mean, do you know how big the universe is? Like really, really big. As in, if the sun and the next closest star were the size of tennis balls, they would be on opposite sides of the continual United States. HUGE! There's so much stuff out there, and the sun, holly crap-snacks the sun isn't a spotlight. It's this massive energy factory, this huge powerhouse that provides more energy every second than every human on the planet uses all year. (And that's just the little bitty bit that hits the Earth's atmosphere)

Also: Solar Flares... how do they fit into the FET?

Re: How big is the universe?
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2016, 07:14:02 PM »
How big do you think it is? Does anyone actually know?

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Re: How big is the universe?
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2016, 08:01:22 PM »
its really big
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Re: How big is the universe?
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2016, 06:03:42 AM »
How big do you think it is? Does anyone actually know?

Yes of course.  ;)

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Re: How big is the universe?
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2016, 06:20:11 AM »
The entity is virtual.

We are thinking about something that we think on it that with it's shape, colour, smell, sound, hardness or softness, rapidity or slowness, ... etc. But these categories just established for this world. We have our 5 or 6 senses. everything around us that appeals to our senses.

The universe should be limitless because it's not a difficult situation to be just "created the perception" are related. For people who understand this situation, to understand what might be out there is just as easy.


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Re: How big is the universe?
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2016, 06:37:51 AM »
Let's just say, the thing is enormous
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Re: How big is the universe?
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2016, 02:59:28 PM »
And while we're at it, in what shape?

I mean this as a truthful question to FEs, because the thought of a universe that is only a few thousand kilometers across is just... depressing.

I mean, do you know how big the universe is? Like really, really big. As in, if the sun and the next closest star were the size of tennis balls, they would be on opposite sides of the continual United States. HUGE! There's so much stuff out there, and the sun, holly crap-snacks the sun isn't a spotlight. It's this massive energy factory, this huge powerhouse that provides more energy every second than every human on the planet uses all year. (And that's just the little bitty bit that hits the Earth's atmosphere)

Also: Solar Flares... how do they fit into the FET?

This is typical round-earth tactics. Their scientists aren't even sure exactly how big the universe is in their model yet we are expected to know the size.

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Re: How big is the universe?
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2016, 05:03:02 PM »
And while we're at it, in what shape? j

I mean this as a truthful question to FEs, because the thought of a universe that is only a few thousand kilometers across is just... depressing.

I mean, do you know how big the universe is? Like really, really big. As in, if the sun and the next closest star were the size of tennis balls, they would be on opposite sides of the continual United States. HUGE! There's so much stuff out there, and the sun, holly crap-snacks the sun isn't a spotlight. It's this massive energy factory, this huge powerhouse that provides more energy every second than every human on the planet uses all year. (And that's just the little bitty bit that hits the Earth's atmosphere)

Also: Solar Flares... how do they fit into the FET?

This is typical round-earth tactics. Their scientists aren't even sure exactly how big the universe is in their model yet we are expected to know the size.

One quote on the size of the universe.:
"The universe has no center and no edge."
The size of the universe is infinite.

But the flat earthers can't even come up with an accurate map of their so-called "flat earth."
And the size and shape of the earth is a well known fact.
« Last Edit: May 11, 2016, 05:06:42 PM by geckothegeek »

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Re: How big is the universe?
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2016, 08:24:38 PM »
And while we're at it, in what shape? j

I mean this as a truthful question to FEs, because the thought of a universe that is only a few thousand kilometers across is just... depressing.

I mean, do you know how big the universe is? Like really, really big. As in, if the sun and the next closest star were the size of tennis balls, they would be on opposite sides of the continual United States. HUGE! There's so much stuff out there, and the sun, holly crap-snacks the sun isn't a spotlight. It's this massive energy factory, this huge powerhouse that provides more energy every second than every human on the planet uses all year. (And that's just the little bitty bit that hits the Earth's atmosphere)

Also: Solar Flares... how do they fit into the FET?

This is typical round-earth tactics. Their scientists aren't even sure exactly how big the universe is in their model yet we are expected to know the size.

One quote on the size of the universe.:
"The universe has no center and no edge."
The size of the universe is infinite.

Can you source that quote so that we can see that it is referring to the size of the universe? Because I'm pretty sure it's more an expression of the universe's shape (spherical in the fourth dimension; i.e. it has no center or edge in the same sense as the surface of your spherical Earth has no center or edge, but that doesn't mean it doesn't have a potentially measurable size). In fact the Big Bang Theory would make no sense if the universe was infinite in size because it presupposes that it was finite at some point; you can't add anything to a finite quantity to make it infinite; that would be absurd.

tl;dr You don't even seem to grasp your own theory so why are you trying to argue about it?
Dr. Frank is a physicist. He says it's impossible. So it's impossible.
My friends, please remember Tom said this the next time you fall into the trap of engaging him, and thank you. :)

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Re: How big is the universe?
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2016, 12:39:43 AM »
And while we're at it, in what shape? j

I mean this as a truthful question to FEs, because the thought of a universe that is only a few thousand kilometers across is just... depressing.

I mean, do you know how big the universe is? Like really, really big. As in, if the sun and the next closest star were the size of tennis balls, they would be on opposite sides of the continual United States. HUGE! There's so much stuff out there, and the sun, holly crap-snacks the sun isn't a spotlight. It's this massive energy factory, this huge powerhouse that provides more energy every second than every human on the planet uses all year. (And that's just the little bitty bit that hits the Earth's atmosphere)

Also: Solar Flares... how do they fit into the FET?

This is typical round-earth tactics. Their scientists aren't even sure exactly how big the universe is in their model yet we are expected to know the size.

One quote on the size of the universe.:
"The universe has no center and no edge."
The size of the universe is infinite.

Can you source that quote so that we can see that it is referring to the size of the universe? Because I'm pretty sure it's more an expression of the universe's shape (spherical in the fourth dimension; i.e. it has no center or edge in the same sense as the surface of your spherical Earth has no center or edge, but that doesn't mean it doesn't have a potentially measurable size). In fact the Big Bang Theory would make no sense if the universe was infinite in size because it presupposes that it was finite at some point; you can't add anything to a finite quantity to make it infinite; that would be absurd.

tl;dr You don't even seem to grasp your own theory so why are you trying to argue about it?
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I am not arguing. Just posted this FWIW. Would have to some research to find the source for that quote.

Re: How big is the universe?
« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2016, 02:08:18 PM »

This is typical round-earth tactics. Their scientists aren't even sure exactly how big the universe is in their model yet we are expected to know the size.


No tactic. I was asking if the Flat Earth Theory had a model of the universe and if so, how big? I read the thing about how the stars are just a swirling thing above the flat disc, and only a few thousand kilometers away. The sun is some tiny spotlight and the planets are holograms, right? So the universe is basically empty except for the disc that we live on. I found the idea incredibly depressing, and was curious if I misunderstood the concept. correct me if I'm wrong.

Re: How big is the universe?
« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2016, 04:50:57 PM »

This is typical round-earth tactics. Their scientists aren't even sure exactly how big the universe is in their model yet we are expected to know the size.


No tactic. I was asking if the Flat Earth Theory had a model of the universe and if so, how big? I read the thing about how the stars are just a swirling thing above the flat disc, and only a few thousand kilometers away. The sun is some tiny spotlight and the planets are holograms, right? So the universe is basically empty except for the disc that we live on. I found the idea incredibly depressing, and was curious if I misunderstood the concept. correct me if I'm wrong.

I don't know if I've read that exact explanation anywhere before, but to me I don't think it would be depressing. Only if you view the universe, or existence itself as a strictly physical thing. I believe there to be far more to life than what is physically observable, or can by calculated in terms of distance, size, weight etc. If there isn't a planet 100 million miles away that doesn't mean there isn't things to be discovered still here on earth, things about who we are, how we got here, and what exactly life is. Not to mention the vast amounts of alien life yet to be discovered deep in our oceans, or in the jungles, or in fossil form.