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« on: May 12, 2015, 11:13:32 AM »
Hello,

I have a simple question: According to your FAQ, the space agencies of the world conspire to make humanity believe the earth is round. Why should they? What is the point of deliberatly deceive humanity?

And wouldn't it be way easier to find a technical reason to NOT send up astronauts and hundreds of satellites, with the need of faking results for every single such launch?




Re: Conspiracy
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2015, 06:59:36 PM »
Because shadow governments get to pocket the money they are actually spending on space travel. If what you're really asking is, "Doesn't it make more sense that we are capable of space travel than having to construct an intricate and far-ranging global conspiracy just to explain away what amounts to a huge problem for Flat Earth theory?" then the answer is, "Yes."
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Re: Conspiracy
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2015, 09:56:34 PM »
Because shadow governments get to pocket the money they are actually spending on space travel. If what you're really asking is, "Doesn't it make more sense that we are capable of space travel than having to construct an intricate and far-ranging global conspiracy just to explain away what amounts to a huge problem for Flat Earth theory?" then the answer is, "Yes."

Why not spend all this money on exploring "real" flat earth? The science discovered from exploring a flat earth would be more beneficial and profitable because it would be based on "real flat earth science".

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Re: Conspiracy
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2015, 04:22:40 AM »
Because shadow governments get to pocket the money they are actually spending on space travel. If what you're really asking is, "Doesn't it make more sense that we are capable of space travel than having to construct an intricate and far-ranging global conspiracy just to explain away what amounts to a huge problem for Flat Earth theory?" then the answer is, "Yes."

Why not spend all this money on exploring "real" flat earth? The science discovered from exploring a flat earth would be more beneficial and profitable because it would be based on "real flat earth science".

Binder,
To the majority, there is no "real" flat earth to explore, this was taken care of by Copernicus and  associated parties and dogma. To the minority, this wouldn't happen if the intentions were pure as they are mutually exclusive.

Digging a hole is what man can do. Somebody should find land somewhere and create something akin to Burning Man but the purpose is to gather once a year to dig down a hole. Or if somebody has money and land, buy some digging equipment and dig a 100,000 square foot area and lets see how deep we can get.

Otherwise half the model cannot be explained. There are enough conflicts between the RE and FE models that would put a discerning individual on the fence about either model, however both models lend themselves to a degree of faith as they explain how various (difficult to prove) elements are based on either research that is not reproducible or simply by convincing as the case.

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Re: Conspiracy
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2015, 09:39:44 AM »
So, the governments of the world all create this whole conspiracy in order to spend money on space 'travel', but instead use most of the money on other things instead? Do I get this right?

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Re: Conspiracy
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2015, 05:52:47 AM »
we are lied to because people dont want to feel like goldfish in an aquarium.

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Re: Conspiracy
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2015, 11:42:35 PM »
Remember that space travel was birthed from the space race. America's main desire to get into earth orbit was so that they could send rockets up there and threaten the world into submission with ICBMs.

The US attempted and failed at building a rocket capable of getting into earth orbit for a long time. When Russia started claiming that they could send rockets into orbit, America's only choice was to claim that they could as well. After WWII America emerged as the world's biggest superpower. Do you really think 1950's America, a rich and paranoid government of the atomic era, would let an aggressor like Russia hold the hand of God over on them with ICBMs?

An entirely new, never before seen technology which does something physically impossible is something that all the  money and power in the world simply cannot buy. America already had rockets that could launch up into the air until they were out of sight, and come back down unseen and the government did not shy away from deception.

Consider the secret war of the Vietnam era in which the public and Congress were systematically lied to about the scale of the war and reckless disregard for civilian casualties for over 20 years between 1945 to 1967. The Secret War was administrated by the Eisenhower, Kennedy and Johnson administration, the same people who were in charge around the time when NASA started making all of its fantastic claims.

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President Johnson had decided to expand the war while promising "we seek no wider war" during his 1964 presidential campaign,[8] including plans to bomb North Vietnam well before the 1964 Election. President Johnson had been outspoken against doing so during the election and claimed that his opponent Barry Goldwater was the one that wanted to bomb North Vietnam.