[AATW]

Then it should be no surprise that she lost.

I'm not surprised she lost. I am a bit surprised at how badly she lost

Hold on there, you believe it was serious. People in general do not.

You may be right, but it doesn't matter what you believe. The data shows it was a serious situation which required a response.


The data above is all deaths so even if you think deaths were being misattributed to Covid, something was causing a lot of extra deaths - and we saw that in the UK too.
I wonder if the issue is that when people think of a pandemic they think of films like 28 Days Later. I agree it wasn't a "holy shit we're all going to die" thing. For most young healthy people it wasn't that big a deal. The issue is in the West we have a lot of old and/or unhealthy people. There don't have to be piles of bodies in the street for it to be a situation which requires a response. My view is that Trump made a hash of it, as did our government.

The real reason for your leftist error, of course, is that you value feelings over rational thought.

I'm not a leftist. I'm fairly centrist. And it's ironic you say I value feelings over rational thought when my opinion is based on data and yours is based on a vague feeling of "well, most people didn't die so what was the fuss about?"

[Action80]

"...something was causing a lot of extra deaths - and we saw that in the UK too."

This was addressed in many of the cofeve threads.

The supposed "excess deaths," were coming anyway. During the years 1945 - 1962, more people were born than at any prior time in recorded history.

The most people ready to die at the natural end of life are going to die at their natural end of life.

The issue is in the West we have a lot of old and/or unhealthy people.

Not once during the entirety of the plandemic were you ever offering any sort of alternative, rational approach instead of what was done. Granted, you were found stating things such as, "it isn't a holy shit thing, we are all going to die," but mostly you were just here spreading more fucking bullshit, such as:

It’s genuinely baffling the man doesn’t have a Nobel prize in science for his proof of a flat earth and one in science for his pioneering work curing cancer and the Covid-19 pandemic.

This was in response to Tom pointing out that hydroxychloriquine was approved to treat coronaviruses by Fauci 15 years prior to the plandemic.

In truth, you posted just heaps and heaps of fucking bullshit during the whole period.

It is just you.

[Action80]

More evidence of cognitive dissonance in action and typing feeble-minded thoughts:

Without the lockdown so many more people would have died, and will die if we ease up before we are ready.

The last sentence - probably right.

I know...I know...

You are going to write back, "Hey I posted a bunch of words after that!"

Thing is, they are already neutralized by your opening salvo; thereby rendered truly meaningless.

[Rushy]

Those missing 15 million Democrat votes aren't people that decided to stay home, they're dead. They took the vaccine and it killed them. Demonrats sacrificed their own people in their sick quest for "climate correction" through depopulation. It's also why they want abortion so badly. Demonrats hate human beings and want them dead.

[AATW]

This was addressed in many of the cofeve threads.

The supposed "excess deaths," were coming anyway. During the years 1945 - 1962, more people were born than at any prior time in recorded history.

Oh right, so over 16 years there was a rise in births and that led to a one off spike in 2020 did it?
There's a clear rising trend of deaths - as you'd expect in an ageing population. But a clear spike in 2020 when Covid hit.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/195920/number-of-deaths-in-the-united-states-since-1990/
But if you think your "brilliant" hypothesis has any merit then feel free to point me at some actual experts who agree with you.
Tumbleweeds.

Not once during the entirety of the plandemic were you ever offering any sort of alternative, rational approach instead of what was done.

They should have locked down earlier and harder. By the time they did lock down it was too late - because of Trump repeatedly insisting it was under control and would all go away. And they should have done more to protect the vulnerable while giving more freedom to people who were at less risk. There.

Now, stop derailing the thread. The point is Trump was a bloody awful president.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/20/presidents-ranking-trump-biden-list
But gas and groceries were cheaper under him so you voted him back in. Silly you!

[AATW]

Those missing 15 million Democrat votes aren't people that decided to stay home, they're dead. They took the vaccine and it killed them.

Which is impressive given that's more than the total number of people who have died in the US since the vaccine was available.

[Rushy]

Those missing 15 million Democrat votes aren't people that decided to stay home, they're dead. They took the vaccine and it killed them.

Which is impressive given that's more than the total number of people who have died in the US since the vaccine was available.

Oh no, you mean to tell me the government that gave millions of people a deadly injection would also lie about the numbers of deaths that have occurred?

[AATW]

Those missing 15 million Democrat votes aren't people that decided to stay home, they're dead. They took the vaccine and it killed them.

Which is impressive given that's more than the total number of people who have died in the US since the vaccine was available.

Oh no, you mean to tell me the government that gave millions of people a deadly injection would also lie about the numbers of deaths that have occurred?

Rushy in "providing no evidence for his claims and dismissing all evidence which shows him to be wrong" shock exclusive!

[Rushy]

Rushy in "providing no evidence for his claims and dismissing all evidence which shows him to be wrong" shock exclusive!

Me: the government is lying
You: here is the government saying they are not lying
Me: they obviously would not tell you they are lying
You: haha no evidence!

 

[Lord Dave]

Well, how would you know how many people died without official records?  Go poll every morgue or funeral home in every state?

[AATW]

Rushy in "providing no evidence for his claims and dismissing all evidence which shows him to be wrong" shock exclusive!

Me: the government is lying
You: here is the government saying they are not lying
Me: they obviously would not tell you they are lying
You: haha no evidence!

 

You're saying the government is lying in a way which:
a) Would be very noticeable in the country and
b) Makes no sense

You said "those missing 15 million Democrat votes aren't people that decided to stay home, they're dead. They took the vaccine and it killed them".
15 million people is close to 5% of the US population. It's close to 1 in 20 people in the country. Are these additional deaths? Presumably people are still dying from other causes. A jump in the number of people dying - that's significantly more people than died in the pandemic - would be obvious and easy to evidence.
Secondly, you understand it wasn't just Democrats who got vaccinated - 58% of Republicans were vaccinated too.
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/for-covid-19-vaccinations-party-affiliation-matters-more-than-race-and-ethnicity/
Did none of them die?

Again I call in to question how you arrive at beliefs. It seems to be whatever pops in to your head.

[Rushy]

You're saying the government is lying in a way which:
a) Would be very noticeable in the country and

Yes, it is very noticeable. Here I am, noticing it.

b) Makes no sense

It makes no sense to a reasonable human being. It makes perfect sense to murder millions of people "for the greater good" when you are a demonrat.

[Action80]

This was addressed in many of the cofeve threads.

The supposed "excess deaths," were coming anyway. During the years 1945 - 1962, more people were born than at any prior time in recorded history.

Oh right, so over 16 years there was a rise in births and that led to a one off spike in 2020 did it?
There's a clear rising trend of deaths - as you'd expect in an ageing population. But a clear spike in 2020 when Covid hit.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/195920/number-of-deaths-in-the-united-states-since-1990/
But if you think your "brilliant" hypothesis has any merit then feel free to point me at some actual experts who agree with you.
Tumbleweeds.

Spikes in deaths are not uncommon at all, especially in an aging population.

You really need to get a fucking grip. You're reasoning here is clearly lacking.

Not once during the entirety of the plandemic were you ever offering any sort of alternative, rational approach instead of what was done.

They should have locked down earlier and harder. By the time they did lock down it was too late - because of Trump repeatedly insisting it was under control and would all go away. And they should have done more to protect the vulnerable while giving more freedom to people who were at less risk. There.

Now, stop derailing the thread. The point is Trump was a bloody awful president.

You're the one who brought up cofeve.

You stop with your fucking bullshit and I will stop calling you out on it.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/20/presidents-ranking-trump-biden-list
But gas and groceries were cheaper under him so you voted him back in. Silly you!

Nobody gives a fuck about what the goddamn shitrag has printed on it in terms of denialism.

To be honest I am getting pretty bored of this place.

The exit door is right over there, clearly marked.

[Rushy]

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/pelosi-blames-harris-loss-bidens-late-exit-open/story?id=115652125

Poor Pelosi. If only she hadn't helped hide Biden's cognitive decline for years. Why would Biden do this to her?

[Action80]

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/pelosi-blames-harris-loss-bidens-late-exit-open/story?id=115652125

Poor Pelosi. If only she hadn't helped hide Biden's cognitive decline for years. Why would Biden do this to her?

"And as I say, Kamala may have, I think she would have done well in that and been stronger going forward. But we don't know that." - Pelosi quote from the article.

LMMFAO! She didn't even survive the 2019 year after announcing her candidacy for 2020.

The Democrats are totally off the rails.

Liberals are totally off the rails.

[Tom Bishop]

Donald Trump continues to make the world a better place

https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/whoopi-goldberg-joins-anti-trump-sex-strike-my-vagina-is-now-closed/

[honk]

I meant consequences for the Democratic Party. The GOP has changed tremendously over the last ten years, while the Democrats seemingly haven't changed at all over the last thirty or so. They need a major shakeup of pretty much everything - their priorities, their leadership, their structure, their strategies, and so on, or else they'll lose again to Trump's handpicked successor in four years' time, and again after that, and again after that. Losing to Trump once is bad enough, and a second time is inexcusable. The center-right neolibs at the top with their "let's appeal to conservatives!" strategies need to step aside.

https://sfstandard.com/2024/11/14/nancy-pelosi-congress-election-donald-trump-2026/

Or, you know, the ancient fossils who bungled the election can refuse to step aside and keep clinging to power. That's cool too!