[Lord Dave]

^ITT LD fails to understand tariffs on imported goods lead to increased production of the same goods within the country, along with livable wages for those new hires that will be producing those goods. LD advocates continued sweatshop wages in China and status-quo.

*Sigh* yes, eventually.  If the tariffs are maintained in 5-10 years domestic production will be up.  BUT costs will stay up as the cost of making it domestically will be the same or about the same as importing it.  So more expensive than now, regardless.

I'm all for pain now, but since Trump won on "shit is too expensive!" I'm not sure making it MORE expensive is gonna help.

Well, since Biden decided to keep the tariffs in place on China, I believe you can go ahead and openly bitch about that now too...

Even though you won't be paying any of those increased costs.

amirite, uh?

I already openly bitched about it, yeah.
And no, I will not. 

[Action80]

So, not really bitchin'...gotcha.

[Lord Dave]

So, not really bitchin'...gotcha.

You will be in 2 years.

[Action80]

It won't be due to higher prices because of tariffs.

It will be due to more of a police state.

It is quite possible there will be no inauguration on January 20th, 2025.

Brandon is likely to either die or retire and the cunt will be in power. Once that happens, game over.

[Lord Dave]

It won't be due to higher prices because of tariffs.

It will be due to more of a police state.

It is quite possible there will be no inauguration on January 20th, 2025.

Brandon is likely to either die or retire and the cunt will be in power. Once that happens, game over.

And if it doesn't? 

[Action80]

I am simply offering some thoughts on things that could possibly happen.

Given the current state of thinking within the US and past precedent.

From the time when the shit really started to hit the fan.

The US, as a Constitutional Republic, is over...big time.

[Lord Dave]

And when was it over last time?

[Action80]

And when was it over last time?

Do you even understand what I wrote?

[Lord Dave]

And when was it over last time?

Do you even understand what I wrote?

You said from precedent, which implies that this has happened before and the country came to end or very nearly did.

[Action80]

And when was it over last time?

Do you even understand what I wrote?

You said from precedent, which implies that this has happened before and the country came to end or very nearly did.

Okay.

You clearly do not understand.

Past precedent refers to prior events, setting the stage for future situations.

So, instead of you writing, "...from precedent, which implies that this has happened before..."

You would write, '...from precedent, which implies that things have happened before..."

[AATW]

I thought this was interesting. A good explanation in why all the mud slinging from the Democrats was ineffective.
Obviously Trump was doing that too, but the bottom line is people aren't happy with how things are going, they blame the Democrats and will elect anyone who says they'll make things better. I'm not convinced he will, but all he had to do was say he would and all the other stuff he does just doesn't matter to people.

[Lord Dave]

And when was it over last time?

Do you even understand what I wrote?

You said from precedent, which implies that this has happened before and the country came to end or very nearly did.

Okay.

You clearly do not understand.

Past precedent refers to prior events, setting the stage for future situations.

So, instead of you writing, "...from precedent, which implies that this has happened before..."

You would write, '...from precedent, which implies that things have happened before..."

Precedent typically involves the thing you're talking about.  Saying "from past precedent of how you walk your dog, I conclude that the country is going to crash" isn't precedent.

[Action80]

And when was it over last time?

Do you even understand what I wrote?

You said from precedent, which implies that this has happened before and the country came to end or very nearly did.

Okay.

You clearly do not understand.

Past precedent refers to prior events, setting the stage for future situations.

So, instead of you writing, "...from precedent, which implies that this has happened before..."

You would write, '...from precedent, which implies that things have happened before..."

Precedent typically involves the thing you're talking about.  Saying "from past precedent of how you walk your dog, I conclude that the country is going to crash" isn't precedent.

Forgive everyone who reads this for not taking your lack of comprehension seriously.

Precedent includes prior events that could lay the work for a future decision or outcome.

Your interpretation and understanding are clearly lacking substance.

[Tom Bishop]

all he had to do was say he would and all the other stuff he does just doesn't matter to people.

Wow, that's all you have to do to get voted into presidency?

Kamala also said she would fix things. However, she was clearly not qualified, and doesn't have any good track record. With Trump we can look back and see that the country was in a better state.

Joe Biden pointed out in September that Kamala handled "everything from foreign policy to domestic policy" under his administration. This and his other comments in the effort to help Kamala really worked against her. Basically this:

[AATW]

all he had to do was say he would and all the other stuff he does just doesn't matter to people.

Wow, that's all you have to do to get voted into presidency?

In the scenario when people think things are going to shit and blame the current government for that it goes a long way.

Kamala also said she would fix things

Yes, but she is part of the current administration which people believe have caused their problems.

With Trump we can look back and see that the country was in a better state.

Well that’s debatable.
I don’t think he handled Covid well - repeatedly denying the seriousness of it and saying it was all under control. I disagree with a lot of his positions on climate change and immigration. But sure, “gas” was cheaper, groceries were cheaper. Those are things which affect people day to day.
My take is the inflation has been caused in part by the hangover from the pandemic and the situation in Ukraine, I don’t think its all been because of the Democrats and I’m not convinced Trump will fix it. But I’d be the first to admit I’m no expert on economics so I guess we’ll see.

I hope he does a good job, no one wins out of it being a complete shit show.

[Lord Dave]

Just to chime in.

Democrats didn't cause inflation since it's a global issue.  Unless you wanna make the claim that US policy caused inflation world wide.

That being said, Trump can (and probably will) lower gas prices quickly by removing the sanctions on Russia and withdrawing support for Ukraine.  This will cause Russian oil to flow into America, increasing supply and decreasing price.
Trump will then sell weapons to Russia and help them destroy the evil Nazis in Ukraine. Prices will stabilize in about 3 years as Ukraine becomes a vessel of Russia.  Again. 


Let's see how well this holds up.

[Fortuna]

Just to chime in.

Democrats didn't cause inflation since it's a global issue.  Unless you wanna make the claim that US policy caused inflation world wide.

That being said, Trump can (and probably will) lower gas prices quickly by removing the sanctions on Russia and withdrawing support for Ukraine.  This will cause Russian oil to flow into America, increasing supply and decreasing price.
Trump will then sell weapons to Russia and help them destroy the evil Nazis in Ukraine. Prices will stabilize in about 3 years as Ukraine becomes a vessel of Russia.  Again. 


Let's see how well this holds up.

And then despots around the world will learn that all you have to do is threaten America with nuclear weapons and they'll cave to just about anything. "Make America the Weakest It's Been Since the American Revolution" would have been a better tagline for Trump's campaign.

[Lord Dave]

Just to chime in.

Democrats didn't cause inflation since it's a global issue.  Unless you wanna make the claim that US policy caused inflation world wide.

That being said, Trump can (and probably will) lower gas prices quickly by removing the sanctions on Russia and withdrawing support for Ukraine.  This will cause Russian oil to flow into America, increasing supply and decreasing price.
Trump will then sell weapons to Russia and help them destroy the evil Nazis in Ukraine. Prices will stabilize in about 3 years as Ukraine becomes a vessel of Russia.  Again. 


Let's see how well this holds up.

And then despots around the world will learn that all you have to do is threaten America with nuclear weapons and they'll cave to just about anything. "Make America the Weakest It's Been Since the American Revolution" would have been a better tagline for Trump's campaign.

No no, no threats.
Just say "Mr. president, you are an amazing leader and the best leader America has seen.  Can I have a nuke?"

[Tom Bishop]

Yes, but she is part of the current administration which people believe have caused their problems.

Then it should be no surprise that she lost.

With Trump we can look back and see that the country was in a better state.

Well that’s debatable.
I don’t think he handled Covid well - repeatedly denying the seriousness

Hold on there, you believe it was serious. People in general do not. People do not believe that Covid is serious. Most people stopped masking and stopped taking the boosters a long time ago, even when Covid was still allegedly running amok (and still is running amock depending on who you talk to). After doing this they saw that people were not dying in the streets and the world didn't end. Therefore people believe that Trump was in the right in denying its seriousness and do not count the questionable deaths with multiple comorbidities you claim under his watch.

Maybe you should look in the mirror and question yourself for being afraid of a disease with a 99.95% survival rate that is hardly different than the flu. Once you realize that you were pretty dumb for following the herd and media hype, you will have all you need to know for why the liberal fav Kamala Harris lost the election by tremendous amount in contradiction to the leftist predictions, and which ultimately leads to why you guys are so prone to these types of delusions and falsities.

The real reason for your leftist error, of course, is that you value feelings over rational thought.

[honk]

When I think of valuing rational thought and cold, hard facts over vibes, emotion, and intuition, I think of Donald Trump and his supporters.