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« Reply #280 on: October 21, 2024, 04:48:10 PM »
It's more the insult, I think. 
I worked at McDonalds.  I know what it's like. Then this guy comes in, plays pretend, all so he can seem like 'one of the low income guys' while insulting everyone who ever stood over a fryer in a McDonalds.  Then, following it up with no policy on helping these low income people you're trying to court.  Not even a token 'I'll make the minimum wage higher!"

You're right. I can't imagine what kind of horrible candidate would keep talking about working at McDonald's and it turns out they really didn't. I'm glad there's only one candidate doing that. Otherwise, if, say, both of them did it, I would expect you to be upset about both candidates doing that. Haha, but that's not the case here, right?
I haven't seen any evidence Kamala didn't work at McDonalds.  Has someone besides Trump not been able to find evidence?

Note: the corporate office doesn't count as they wouldn't know unless they owned the location, which isn't likely.


But yes, if evidence came out showing or wasn't able to be found despite it being findable, I'd be upset.  I would call her an absolute lying bitch who should die in a fryer.
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« Reply #281 on: October 21, 2024, 04:52:04 PM »
I haven't seen any evidence Kamala didn't work at McDonalds.  Has someone besides Trump not been able to find evidence?

Note: the corporate office doesn't count as they wouldn't know unless they owned the location, which isn't likely.


But yes, if evidence came out showing or wasn't able to be found despite it being findable, I'd be upset.  I would call her an absolute lying bitch who should die in a fryer.

I've been on the moon. Did you know that? Good luck finding evidence I haven't been on the moon. I suggest starting your search near one of the poles and working your way around one step at a time.

Sure, McDonald's says they have no employee records. Her resumes don't mention it. She herself has never mentioned it until a few months ago. She didn't even mention it in her 2020 campaign. But hell, she wouldn't lie, right? You really think someone would do that? Just go on the campaign trail and lie?
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« Reply #282 on: October 21, 2024, 04:56:39 PM »
I haven't seen any evidence Kamala didn't work at McDonalds.  Has someone besides Trump not been able to find evidence?

Note: the corporate office doesn't count as they wouldn't know unless they owned the location, which isn't likely.


But yes, if evidence came out showing or wasn't able to be found despite it being findable, I'd be upset.  I would call her an absolute lying bitch who should die in a fryer.

I've been on the moon. Did you know that? Good luck finding evidence I haven't been on the moon. I suggest starting your search near one of the poles and working your way around one step at a time.
I mean, it's not hard.  I just need to go through the orbital tracking NASA does and find any rockets then see if any of them are manned and if they went to the moon.


Or maybe you're one of the astronauts who went.  I don't know.


For Kamala, should be easy.
"Which McDonalds did you work at?  And from what years?"
Unless the restaurant has purged their records (possible) or closed (also possible) it should be findable.
Hell, she said it was to help college so check all the McDonalds near where she went to school.  See if their HR records have her or go back to the most likely dates.

Proving a negative is easy if you know where the evidence should be.

Or check the IRS archives, which would have her W2 or workplace WD40 on file.
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« Reply #283 on: October 21, 2024, 04:59:00 PM »
I mean, it's not hard.  I just need to go through the orbital tracking NASA does and find any rockets then see if any of them are manned and if they went to the moon.

My rocket was stealth coated.

Or maybe you're one of the astronauts who went.  I don't know.

I'm the only astronaut.

For Kamala, should be easy.
"Which McDonalds did you work at?  And from what years?"
Unless the restaurant has purged their records (possible) or closed (also possible) it should be findable.
Hell, she said it was to help college so check all the McDonalds near where she went to school.  See if their HR records have her or go back to the most likely dates.

Proving a negative is easy if you know where the evidence should be.

Gee, it's almost like she can't answer those questions and was being mocked by Trump for it. This is almost as bad as Biden making up stories about being attacked by knife-wielding gangsters at a public pool.

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« Reply #284 on: October 21, 2024, 06:49:51 PM »
Her resumes don't mention it.
Do you typically list shitty summer jobs from decades ago on your resumes?

She herself has never mentioned it until a few months ago.
She has, though. Why would you lie about that?

https://x.com/KamalaHarris/status/1139675952538095619
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« Reply #285 on: October 21, 2024, 07:05:33 PM »
I just thought it was funny that she got in his head so much about working at McDonald's that he staged this in the first place.  ;D
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« Reply #286 on: October 21, 2024, 08:25:33 PM »
Do you typically list shitty summer jobs from decades ago on your resumes?

I wouldn't know, I don't perform menial labor jobs.


She has, though. Why would you lie about that?
https://x.com/KamalaHarris/status/1139675952538095619

I see, so the lies go back even further than I thought. Thank you for pointing that out.

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« Reply #287 on: October 21, 2024, 08:58:18 PM »
I wouldn't know, I don't perform menial labor jobs.
Then let me clarify: listing it would be highly unusual, and would make you come across as Weird.
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« Reply #288 on: October 21, 2024, 10:23:29 PM »
I mean, it's not hard.  I just need to go through the orbital tracking NASA does and find any rockets then see if any of them are manned and if they went to the moon.

My rocket was stealth coated.
NASA detectors are able to identify orbital dust being pushed aside.  Plus propulsion required to get into lunar orbit.

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Or maybe you're one of the astronauts who went.  I don't know.

I'm the only astronaut.
Was it back in 1970?

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For Kamala, should be easy.
"Which McDonalds did you work at?  And from what years?"
Unless the restaurant has purged their records (possible) or closed (also possible) it should be findable.
Hell, she said it was to help college so check all the McDonalds near where she went to school.  See if their HR records have her or go back to the most likely dates.

Proving a negative is easy if you know where the evidence should be.

Gee, it's almost like she can't answer those questions and was being mocked by Trump for it. This is almost as bad as Biden making up stories about being attacked by knife-wielding gangsters at a public pool.
Has she ever been asked?
Apparently so and the campaign identified the restaurant.

https://www.newsweek.com/kamala-harris-work-mcdonalds-donald-trump-election-2024-1950020

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Harris has recalled working at a McDonald's that her campaign has identified as the location on Central Avenue in Alameda, California, 41 years ago, in the summer of 1983 when she would have been a rising sophomore at Howard University.

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"we and our franchisees don't have records for all positions dating back to the early '80s."

So the place was given and the corporate office has answered that the records aren't kept that long.

And now we have
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A friend of Harris, Wanda Kagan, told the New York Times that she recalled Harris having worked at McDonald's around that time. That recollection was based on what Harris' mother, who died in 2009, told her years ago, the Times reported.


Her working at McDonalds is plausible, given how many teens and college students seek fast food as a first job or college job.

So the question then becomes... Why should we not believe her?  It's not unusual or odd or improbable.  So why is it suddenly an unbelievable story?  Do you not believe me if I say I worked at McDonalds?
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« Reply #289 on: October 21, 2024, 10:56:37 PM »
I wouldn't know, I don't perform menial labor jobs.
Then let me clarify: listing it would be highly unusual, and would make you come across as Weird.

Ah yes, of course, listing your summer job on a resume would be Weird. Telling a crowd of people about it at a political rally is not Weird. How egregious of me to confuse the two...

NASA detectors are able to identify orbital dust being pushed aside.  Plus propulsion required to get into lunar orbit.

Not even NASA claims that, regardless, anything they do or don't claim is irrelevant, since space travel is fake.


Was it back in 1970?

I've been going to space since 1869.

Her working at McDonalds is plausible, given how many teens and college students seek fast food as a first job or college job.

So the question then becomes... Why should we not believe her?  It's not unusual or odd or improbable.  So why is it suddenly an unbelievable story?  Do you not believe me if I say I worked at McDonalds?

Why is it implausible that Trump worked at McDonald's? You can't answer that question without applying it to Harris.

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« Reply #290 on: October 22, 2024, 04:23:51 AM »
Was it back in 1970?

I've been going to space since 1869.

Her working at McDonalds is plausible, given how many teens and college students seek fast food as a first job or college job.

So the question then becomes... Why should we not believe her?  It's not unusual or odd or improbable.  So why is it suddenly an unbelievable story?  Do you not believe me if I say I worked at McDonalds?

Why is it implausible that Trump worked at McDonald's? You can't answer that question without applying it to Harris.
How so?
Trump was born with a silver spoon in his mouth.  His father was extremely wealthy and he grew up in wealth.  So much so that his father could buy Trump a degree.  When has anyone born of such wealth worked a minimum wage job?

Might have even been a security risk to do so as his father's wealth would have made him a target for kidnapping and ransom. 


To my knowledge, Kamala was not nearly as wealthy growing up.  I'll not claim to be an expert, but I do not believe her parents were wealthy enough to buy her a degree.  My understanding is that they were upper middle class.  Possibly. I don't know what Stanford's salary scale was in the 80s.  Nor Berkeley's
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« Reply #291 on: October 22, 2024, 10:13:41 AM »
Ah yes, of course, listing your summer job on a resume would be Weird.
It would be weird to do so 40 years after the fact. How is it relevant to anything she would be applying for now?
I didn't have summer jobs but I don't put school qualifications on my CV as they're not relevant.

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Telling a crowd of people about it at a political rally is not Weird.
Correct. It isn't weird when a candidate is trying to connect with "working people"

She hasn't provided any evidence that she did work there - I'm not sure how she would be able to do that now, who keeps records of stuff like that from 40 years ago just in case they ever have to produce them in the context of a public scrutiny that couldn't possibly have been anticipated. McDonalds have said they wouldn't necessarily have records from that long ago either.

She has made a claim without evidencing it, Trump has said it isn't true also without providing evidence. To be fair, proving a negative is difficult but I guess if there were people who knew her back then they might be able to confirm or deny the claim. But it isn't a fantastical claim. Very few people have been to the moon (it's 12 by the way, not 0 - I mean who have actually landed). Lots of kids going through college have summer jobs and McDonalds is quite a common one for that demographic.

But...honestly, who cares? Does this inform anyone's decision about who to vote for? I mean, I guess if she is lying it speaks to her credibility but given how frequently Trump lies that isn't something to differentiate the candidates. Talk about a nothing burger, pun intended.
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« Reply #292 on: October 22, 2024, 10:53:34 AM »
Nobody gives a fuck about McDonalds.
To be honest I am getting pretty bored of this place.

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« Reply #293 on: October 22, 2024, 01:26:27 PM »
How so?
Trump was born with a silver spoon in his mouth.  His father was extremely wealthy and he grew up in wealth.  So much so that his father could buy Trump a degree.  When has anyone born of such wealth worked a minimum wage job?

Might have even been a security risk to do so as his father's wealth would have made him a target for kidnapping and ransom. 


To my knowledge, Kamala was not nearly as wealthy growing up.  I'll not claim to be an expert, but I do not believe her parents were wealthy enough to buy her a degree.  My understanding is that they were upper middle class.  Possibly. I don't know what Stanford's salary scale was in the 80s.  Nor Berkeley's

Ah yes, Stanford and Berkeley. Well known for being universities for the poor and downtrodden. I'm sure the professors there routinely made peanuts in compensation.

It would be weird to do so 40 years after the fact. How is it relevant to anything she would be applying for now?

The resume we're talking about is from the first job she ever applied for. It's a 40 year old resume. I'm not talking about her putting a McDonald's job on her resume for district attorney.

Correct. It isn't weird when a candidate is trying to connect with "working people"

Pretty comical to be doing that while wearing outfits that cost more than the median salary in American, isn't it? One might even say it's Weird.

But...honestly, who cares?

I don't, but Dave does, which is what started the conversation in the first place. It's a forum, my man, it's not that hard to go back and look at the words everyone else wrote before you chimed in.


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« Reply #294 on: October 22, 2024, 02:42:00 PM »
The resume we're talking about is from the first job she ever applied for. It's a 40 year old resume.
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Pretty comical to be doing that while wearing outfits that cost more than the median salary in American, isn't it? One might even say it's Weird.
Not that weird in the context of election campaigns - I mean, they're inherently weird anyway.

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It's a forum, my man, it's not that hard to go back and look at the words everyone else wrote before you chimed in.
I did do that.
I just don't know why this has become a "thing" - I don't mean on here, it seems to be a news story. I don't know why it matters.
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« Reply #295 on: October 22, 2024, 02:59:52 PM »
Nobody gives a fuck about McDonalds.
Trump does.  So much so he made a whole PR stunt about it.  Probably cost alot of money and time.
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« Reply #296 on: October 22, 2024, 04:59:56 PM »
How so?
Trump was born with a silver spoon in his mouth.  His father was extremely wealthy and he grew up in wealth.  So much so that his father could buy Trump a degree.  When has anyone born of such wealth worked a minimum wage job?

Might have even been a security risk to do so as his father's wealth would have made him a target for kidnapping and ransom. 


To my knowledge, Kamala was not nearly as wealthy growing up.  I'll not claim to be an expert, but I do not believe her parents were wealthy enough to buy her a degree.  My understanding is that they were upper middle class.  Possibly. I don't know what Stanford's salary scale was in the 80s.  Nor Berkeley's

Ah yes, Stanford and Berkeley. Well known for being universities for the poor and downtrodden. I'm sure the professors there routinely made peanuts in compensation.
I mean, yeah.  Fred Trump made hundreds of Millions.  They made 10s of thousands.  Probably.  But yes, they were well off, but not Trump rich.
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« Reply #297 on: October 22, 2024, 05:37:16 PM »
Nobody gives a fuck about McDonalds.
Trump does.  So much so he made a whole PR stunt about it.  Probably cost alot of money and time.
He spent his own money?


Again, noboday gives a fuck about McDonalds.
To be honest I am getting pretty bored of this place.

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« Reply #298 on: October 22, 2024, 06:32:23 PM »
Nobody gives a fuck about McDonalds.
Trump does.  So much so he made a whole PR stunt about it.  Probably cost alot of money and time.
He spent his own money?


Again, noboday gives a fuck about McDonalds.

How did you get that?
Of course he spent campaign money. 
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« Reply #299 on: October 22, 2024, 07:22:26 PM »
Nobody gives a fuck about McDonalds.
Trump does.  So much so he made a whole PR stunt about it.  Probably cost alot of money and time.
He spent his own money?

Probably not if we're being honest. Doubtless it was his zombie supporters who are too dumb to see the logical disconnect between believing their orange leader is a multibillionaire and throwing their social security checks at him who footed the bill for this. And given Trump's record as a hopeless cheat there's plenty of reason to doubt anybody got paid anyway.

But I think Dave's point about the time and effort still stands. He just can't get over the McDonald's thing, CLEARLY it matters to him, and it's absolutely hilarious.
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