[SatanistsAreEvil]

Hi, i believe that the earth is Flat and i also believe that the sun and moon are same size or very close in size , not like what the masonic NASA claim , but i wanna ask about the position of the sun and moon

Now i know that the sun and moon are above the first flat earth and are flying in circle above earth, the virtual circle of the path of sun and moon is smaller than the circle of the earth (the ground), and the seasons are formed due to the increase or decrease of the size of that virtual circle of sun and moon.

Here is the question , if the sun and moon are above us always , would not it be always sunny , even if the sun went to the other side of the earth , would not the light still reach the whole earth ? maybe the clouds prevent the light from reaching over this great distance , i dont know , i hope someone enlighten me about this , what i always want is the truth, thanks for reading.

[RhesusVX]

Hi, I'm on the other side of the fence, and posit that the Earth is not flat due to the various personal scientific observations that I've carried out myself - doesn't need NASA for that.  Other shapes have positive curvature around the outer edge too, such as an ovoid, disc, ring or cylinder, but both RET and FET seem to dismiss those, leaving only a rotating globe.  I'm not sure what reason NASA and the entire global space race would have for faking and lying about things, so I'd be interested to know your rationale and why you believe this to be the case.

But, the answer to your question can be found here:

https://wiki.tfes.org/Electromagnetic_Acceleration

According to FET, there is an unknown mechanism that causes light from the Sun to go straight down when perpendicular to the surface, but as the light travels further, the more it curves, to the point where light never reaches the Earth.  This accounts for a number of things in FET including why the Sun behaves like a spotlight rather than illuminating the entre surface as you assumed would be the case (and it would be the case if the Earth was flat because light travels in a straight line unless acted upon, and atmospheric refraction alone cannot account for such extreme curvature of light).

[Pete Svarrior]

Hi SatanistsAreEvil. I appreciate your attempt at satire, but you're probably going to have to try a bit harder than that. In the meantime, please let's keep this board for serious questions. If you want to practice your Poe's Law, take it to the Complete Nonsense board, which you can find towards the bottom of the board listing.

[SatanistsAreEvil]

Hi SatanistsAreEvil. I appreciate your attempt at satire, but you're probably going to have to try a bit harder than that. In the meantime, please let's keep this board for serious questions. If you want to practice your Poe's Law, take it to the Complete Nonsense board, which you can find towards the bottom of the board listing.

What are you talking about , i am serious about my question , i am new here and its the first time i write a post , i dont know what are you thinking but i really want an answer for my question. 

[SatanistsAreEvil]

Hi, I'm on the other side of the fence, and posit that the Earth is not flat due to the various personal scientific observations that I've carried out myself - doesn't need NASA for that.  Other shapes have positive curvature around the outer edge too, such as an ovoid, disc, ring or cylinder, but both RET and FET seem to dismiss those, leaving only a rotating globe.  I'm not sure what reason NASA and the entire global space race would have for faking and lying about things, so I'd be interested to know your rationale and why you believe this to be the case.

But, the answer to your question can be found here:

https://wiki.tfes.org/Electromagnetic_Acceleration

According to FET, there is an unknown mechanism that causes light from the Sun to go straight down when perpendicular to the surface, but as the light travels further, the more it curves, to the point where light never reaches the Earth.  This accounts for a number of things in FET including why the Sun behaves like a spotlight rather than illuminating the entre surface as you assumed would be the case (and it would be the case if the Earth was flat because light travels in a straight line unless acted upon, and atmospheric refraction alone cannot account for such extreme curvature of light).

First you have to read history to be able to see the full picture , america was created by the freemasons , see the first 9 names who signed the independence HOAX.

http://bessel.org/declmas.htm

Most of the American governors are Freemasons or obeying the satanists , the first president was a mason , and lots others , if you track masons , you will find that they are the descendants of the knight templars and that knight templars were worshipping lucifer of satan.

It sounds weird , but its history , people just do not read , you can read the books of TIm wallace murphy and albert pikes book. there have been lots of smaller brotherhoods from masons , like skull and bones , rose cross etc. They are all following the belief of the kabbala judiasm.

So the satanic masonic leaders of america will never allow any organization to be independent , all they big companies you see are under their control and fulfilling their agenda which is the new world order. Like microsoft, appe, amazon, facebook, nasa etc. The latest HOAX was the Covid19 , if you see who is funding the WHO , you will find the masonic states of america , United Kingdom which has a masonic old hag ruling it and the cute bill gates.

What i want to say is that you should never take a word from any official american organization as truth , do your own research , america was created be satanists from scratch , unlike europe which was catholic and then the satanists controlled it (Rothchilds, Rockfellers and morgans).

regarding the flat earth , i told you that the water will fall in the space if the earth was a ball and the so called unproven gravity will not be able to hold the water and attach it to the earth. its as simple as that , not to mention that when i look i see a flat earth not a badd , i do not see any curves.

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Hi, I'm on the other side of the fence, and posit that the Earth is not flat due to the various personal scientific observations that I've carried out myself - doesn't need NASA for that.  Other shapes have positive curvature around the outer edge too, such as an ovoid, disc, ring or cylinder, but both RET and FET seem to dismiss those, leaving only a rotating globe.  I'm not sure what reason NASA and the entire global space race would have for faking and lying about things, so I'd be interested to know your rationale and why you believe this to be the case.

But, the answer to your question can be found here:

https://wiki.tfes.org/Electromagnetic_Acceleration

According to FET, there is an unknown mechanism that causes light from the Sun to go straight down when perpendicular to the surface, but as the light travels further, the more it curves, to the point where light never reaches the Earth.  This accounts for a number of things in FET including why the Sun behaves like a spotlight rather than illuminating the entre surface as you assumed would be the case (and it would be the case if the Earth was flat because light travels in a straight line unless acted upon, and atmospheric refraction alone cannot account for such extreme curvature of light).

First you have to read history to be able to see the full picture , america was created by the freemasons , see the first 9 names who signed the independence HOAX.

http://bessel.org/declmas.htm

They are all freemasons , the first president was a mason , and lots others , if you track masons , you will find that they are the descendants of the knight templars and that knight templars were worshipping lucifer of satan.

You say they were all free masons. Yet your link above has in its summary, "56 men signed the Declaration of Independence it appears that 9 (16%) were Masons".

That means 47, or 84%, were not free masons. How do you translate that to "all"?

[RhesusVX]

@SatanistsAreEvil, appreciate your reply and respect your views.  History is history, and while I’m not going to disagree that there are powers that control the global economy and who have a skewed control over the distribution/ownership of finances, I just take it for what it is, chiefly because I have no interest in politics and related.  As an individual, my life is unaffected either way.  May be considered narrow minded by some, but just like the Earth - regardless of its actual shape, will it change the time you get up in a morning and change how you go get to work or fly to your next holiday destination?  Nope.

Freemasonry, whether the accepted terms is fraternity/cult/religion, is fine.  Anything that brings a group of people together with a common belief and who live better lives for it is good with me as long as everybody is nice about it.  I’m not religious, don’t believe in a supreme being or immortality of the soul.  For me, those things push it from the realm of reality to the real of fantasy.  Such subscribers will often tell everyone they are being lied to and to not believe everything you are told, a little bit like those who subscribe to the flat Earth theory.  Don’t get me wrong, I absolutely agree.  Don’t always believe what you hear, do your own research, make your own observations and keep an open mind, just not so much that your brains fall out.  It’s OK to question things you don’t understand, but not OK to outright dismiss things because of it.

Regarding flat Earth and your comments...

Why do you say gravity isn’t proven?  I experience it every day, and if by unproven you mean “makes no sense to you”, fair enough, but then a flat Earth constantly accelerating upwards at 9.81m/s^2 with a dome over it holding in the atmosphere makes no sense to me, especially with no evidence for it, but that’s what other threads here are for otherwise every thread turns into the same discussion.  Suffice to say, it’s all about scale and perspective.  No, you can’t see the Earth curve when stood on the surface, it’s too big.  It “looks flat”, but to conclude it must be flat because of that is absurd.  Look up the Rainy Lake Experiment for objective evidence of the curvature, including explanations of how light behaves, refraction coefficients etc.

[SatanistsAreEvil]

Hi, I'm on the other side of the fence, and posit that the Earth is not flat due to the various personal scientific observations that I've carried out myself - doesn't need NASA for that.  Other shapes have positive curvature around the outer edge too, such as an ovoid, disc, ring or cylinder, but both RET and FET seem to dismiss those, leaving only a rotating globe.  I'm not sure what reason NASA and the entire global space race would have for faking and lying about things, so I'd be interested to know your rationale and why you believe this to be the case.

But, the answer to your question can be found here:

https://wiki.tfes.org/Electromagnetic_Acceleration

According to FET, there is an unknown mechanism that causes light from the Sun to go straight down when perpendicular to the surface, but as the light travels further, the more it curves, to the point where light never reaches the Earth.  This accounts for a number of things in FET including why the Sun behaves like a spotlight rather than illuminating the entre surface as you assumed would be the case (and it would be the case if the Earth was flat because light travels in a straight line unless acted upon, and atmospheric refraction alone cannot account for such extreme curvature of light).

First you have to read history to be able to see the full picture , america was created by the freemasons , see the first 9 names who signed the independence HOAX.

http://bessel.org/declmas.htm

They are all freemasons , the first president was a mason , and lots others , if you track masons , you will find that they are the descendants of the knight templars and that knight templars were worshipping lucifer of satan.

You say they were all free masons. Yet your link above has in its summary, "56 men signed the Declaration of Independence it appears that 9 (16%) were Masons".

That means 47, or 84%, were not free masons. How do you translate that to "all"?

You you are right i was wrong in that , what i meant by all is the majority even if they didn't declare it , most of the American governors are either satanists or obeying the sataists for their own benefit that makes them nearly equal , like George Bush junior and senior for example are members in skull and bones but are not masons , although skull and bones has the same ideology and even much more radical about their satanic beliefs , so i will correct that.

Yet nobody answered my question ?     

[SatanistsAreEvil]

@SatanistsAreEvil, appreciate your reply and respect your views.  History is history, and while I’m not going to disagree that there are powers that control the global economy and who have a skewed control over the distribution/ownership of finances, I just take it for what it is, chiefly because I have no interest in politics and related.  As an individual, my life is unaffected either way.  May be considered narrow minded by some, but just like the Earth - regardless of its actual shape, will it change the time you get up in a morning and change how you go get to work or fly to your next holiday destination?  Nope.

Freemasonry, whether the accepted terms is fraternity/cult/religion, is fine.  Anything that brings a group of people together with a common belief and who live better lives for it is good with me as long as everybody is nice about it.  I’m not religious, don’t believe in a supreme being or immortality of the soul.  For me, those things push it from the realm of reality to the real of fantasy.  Such subscribers will often tell everyone they are being lied to and to not believe everything you are told, a little bit like those who subscribe to the flat Earth theory.  Don’t get me wrong, I absolutely agree.  Don’t always believe what you hear, do your own research, make your own observations and keep an open mind, just not so much that your brains fall out.  It’s OK to question things you don’t understand, but not OK to outright dismiss things because of it.

Regarding flat Earth and your comments...

Why do you say gravity isn’t proven?  I experience it every day, and if by unproven you mean “makes no sense to you”, fair enough, but then a flat Earth constantly accelerating upwards at 9.81m/s^2 with a dome over it holding in the atmosphere makes no sense to me, especially with no evidence for it, but that’s what other threads here are for otherwise every thread turns into the same discussion.  Suffice to say, it’s all about scale and perspective.  No, you can’t see the Earth curve when stood on the surface, it’s too big.  It “looks flat”, but to conclude it must be flat because of that is absurd.  Look up the Rainy Lake Experiment for objective evidence of the curvature, including explanations of how light behaves, refraction coefficients etc.

Till now nobody was able to reply to the thing i said at the beginning of this post , The water will fall in space if the earth is a ball , and it will even fall and splash more if it was a spinning ball , the gravity is not strong enough to attach us to the surface , since we can jump and lift our hands and even fly in the sky using planes , so how can it be able to attract millions of tons of sea and ocean water.

I doubt no body will be able to answer this.

Regarding gravity , its simply down , there is up and down , things fall down when you throw it cuz its the direction down. There are also some old maps that show clearly that the earth is flat and there is a big black mountain in the Arctic. I don't think these people were smoking weed.

Regarding the creator , its not logical at all to think that there is no creator for this world , i am a software developer so i always build my thoughts on logic and evidences , the computer you are using now has a creator , say apple , dell etc company , likewise the heavens and earth , there should be some holy, wise, super strong power that created all this , things just do not pop up from no where. Actually i see that the atheists are the most illogical people , i respect satanists (Kabbalah Jews) , Normal Jews (Like Neturei Karta) , Zionists , Christians and Muslims more.

Knowing that there is god is something logical.

If you read about and try to practice something like OBE you will know there is a soul.

Try reading the quran and the holy book (bible and torah)

I am a person that follows evidences and proof , so read about the knight templars and you will know who were they and where are they now.

It matters if the earth is flat or a ball , cuz i do not accept someone to deceive me and tell me false info and then brainwash the entire world with it , there has to be a reason of why they are doing this , maybe there are lots of resources in the second earth after the ice wall and if people knew about this , their monetary control over the humans will end. so the person should search for the truth. and fight for it.

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Hi, I'm on the other side of the fence, and posit that the Earth is not flat due to the various personal scientific observations that I've carried out myself - doesn't need NASA for that.  Other shapes have positive curvature around the outer edge too, such as an ovoid, disc, ring or cylinder, but both RET and FET seem to dismiss those, leaving only a rotating globe.  I'm not sure what reason NASA and the entire global space race would have for faking and lying about things, so I'd be interested to know your rationale and why you believe this to be the case.

But, the answer to your question can be found here:

https://wiki.tfes.org/Electromagnetic_Acceleration

According to FET, there is an unknown mechanism that causes light from the Sun to go straight down when perpendicular to the surface, but as the light travels further, the more it curves, to the point where light never reaches the Earth.  This accounts for a number of things in FET including why the Sun behaves like a spotlight rather than illuminating the entre surface as you assumed would be the case (and it would be the case if the Earth was flat because light travels in a straight line unless acted upon, and atmospheric refraction alone cannot account for such extreme curvature of light).

First you have to read history to be able to see the full picture , america was created by the freemasons , see the first 9 names who signed the independence HOAX.

http://bessel.org/declmas.htm

They are all freemasons , the first president was a mason , and lots others , if you track masons , you will find that they are the descendants of the knight templars and that knight templars were worshipping lucifer of satan.

You say they were all free masons. Yet your link above has in its summary, "56 men signed the Declaration of Independence it appears that 9 (16%) were Masons".

That means 47, or 84%, were not free masons. How do you translate that to "all"?

You you are right i was wrong in that , what i meant by all is the majority even if they didn't declare it , most of the American governors are either satanists or obeying the sataists for their own benefit that makes them nearly equal , like George Bush junior and senior for example are members in skull and bones but are not masons , although skull and bones has the same ideology and even much more radical about their satanic beliefs , so i will correct that.

Yet nobody answered my question ?   

What's wrong with being a satanist?

[RhesusVX]

Writing comments entirely in red does not make your point more prominent, just makes it harder to read.

Yes, gravity is a weak force, but the Earth is huge. We can jump off the surface but we fall back down.  The oceans on its surface are tiny in comparison to the overall volume of the Earth.  They don’t fly off into space for the same reason water doesn’t fly off a soaking wet tennis ball if you rotate it at a rate of 0.25 degrees every minute.  Just because the surface of the Earth is moving at 1000mph at the equator doesn’t mean that water just flies off.   There is a massive difference between angular rotation and speed, and those videos that show water flying off a tennis ball are ridiculous because they are mimicking Earth as though its day lasted less than a second.

Also, what is “up”?  It’s just a relative direction.  I throw something up and to me it looks like it falls down.  To the ball itself, it looks like the Earth is going down and then rising up.  When somebody in Australia does the same, their up is my down from my frame of reference.  They throw the ball down and it falls up.  In space there is no up or down, so I’m not sure what you are getting at.

Look, unless somebody says something to me personally offensive, I’ll respect anybody regardless of religion and faith.  I am what you would call an agnostic atheist.  I don’t believe in the concept of a deity you call god who created us, and maintain that there is no proof one existed, or does exist.  You might think you know it to be true, but that’s only logical to you.  It’s not logical to me.  The analogy that Apple made this tablet I’m using right now must lead one to conclude that some entity also made the Earth and everything we see is a perfectly good religious standpoint, but not a good scientific one with all of the knowledge we now have about the universe around us.  But, religion selectively dismisses most of that in an endeavour to seek its own truth, which is fine, but ultimately that’s not always scientific and logical.  If you follow evidence and proof, please provide the proof that the Earth is flat.  Proof does not mean “it looks flat therefore the experiments like the Rainy Lake Experiment must be bunk”.  Proof does not mean “oceans would fly off a spinning Earth” while completely ignoring the science behind why it wouldn’t.  Try to see both sides.

I would suggest, as I was advised, that you lurk around the forums for a bit, read the Wiki and the threads, and then you might find some more answers to questions on both sides of the fence and have a better appreciation.  I certainly do having done the same.

[SatanistsAreEvil]

Hi, I'm on the other side of the fence, and posit that the Earth is not flat due to the various personal scientific observations that I've carried out myself - doesn't need NASA for that.  Other shapes have positive curvature around the outer edge too, such as an ovoid, disc, ring or cylinder, but both RET and FET seem to dismiss those, leaving only a rotating globe.  I'm not sure what reason NASA and the entire global space race would have for faking and lying about things, so I'd be interested to know your rationale and why you believe this to be the case.

But, the answer to your question can be found here:

https://wiki.tfes.org/Electromagnetic_Acceleration

According to FET, there is an unknown mechanism that causes light from the Sun to go straight down when perpendicular to the surface, but as the light travels further, the more it curves, to the point where light never reaches the Earth.  This accounts for a number of things in FET including why the Sun behaves like a spotlight rather than illuminating the entre surface as you assumed would be the case (and it would be the case if the Earth was flat because light travels in a straight line unless acted upon, and atmospheric refraction alone cannot account for such extreme curvature of light).

First you have to read history to be able to see the full picture , america was created by the freemasons , see the first 9 names who signed the independence HOAX.

http://bessel.org/declmas.htm

They are all freemasons , the first president was a mason , and lots others , if you track masons , you will find that they are the descendants of the knight templars and that knight templars were worshipping lucifer of satan.

You say they were all free masons. Yet your link above has in its summary, "56 men signed the Declaration of Independence it appears that 9 (16%) were Masons".

That means 47, or 84%, were not free masons. How do you translate that to "all"?

You you are right i was wrong in that , what i meant by all is the majority even if they didn't declare it , most of the American governors are either satanists or obeying the sataists for their own benefit that makes them nearly equal , like George Bush junior and senior for example are members in skull and bones but are not masons , although skull and bones has the same ideology and even much more radical about their satanic beliefs , so i will correct that.

Yet nobody answered my question ?   

What's wrong with being a satanist?

That will take time and effort to answer , you have to read religions and search for the good and love , then you will be able to know how satanists are bad and evil. So use DuckDuckGO Not google and search.

[RhesusVX]

In either case, your original question has been answered, which was around why Sun doesn’t illuminate the entire flat surface under FET.  You didn’t actually say to me (prior to actually saying you said to me) about water falling off a round Earth and spinning off, you just added it as part of your statement of belief  You also went on a rather deep tangent around freemasonry, satanism and religion.  There is a separate board for Philosophy, Religion and Society if you want to take your actual agenda there.  This board relates to Flat Earth Theory.  If you’d like to discuss the answer provided (Electromagnetic Acceleration) or have any questions on what the implications of it might be with respect to a flat Earth, then great, ask away and let’s discuss.

[SatanistsAreEvil]

In either case, your original question has been answered, which was around why Sun doesn’t illuminate the entire flat surface under FET.  You didn’t actually say to me (prior to actually saying you said to me) about water falling off a round Earth and spinning off, you just added it as part of your statement of belief  You also went on a rather deep tangent around freemasonry, satanism and religion.  There is a separate board for Philosophy, Religion and Society if you want to take your actual agenda there.  This board relates to Flat Earth Theory.  If you’d like to discuss the answer provided (Electromagnetic Radiation) or have any questions on what the implications of it might be with respect to a flat Earth, then great, ask away and let’s discuss.

Its all connected to each other , Try reading the Quran which is the holy book of muslims , give it a shot.

[RhesusVX]

Its all connected to each other , Try reading the Quran which is the holy book of muslims , give it a shot.

Changing the colour to purple doesn’t solidify your statement either, and I beg to differ.  The shape of the Earth has absolutely ZERO to do with beliefs, and everything to do with what we can scientifically observe, verify, model and prove.  The only loose connection is the belief that NASA and any other influential body is a conspiracy to hide things from us.  See here’s the thing - in one thread you’ve mentioned freemasonry, satanism, god, Qur’an, where the latter didn’t believe everything written before so they came up with yet another belief system.  There are multiple different religions all believing the same thing for different reasons, different things for the same reasons, and different things for different reasons.  Just like Flat Earth Theory they cannot agree on one single explanation, and they cannot all be right, except to just believe the Earth is flat.  Yet, here in the majority, we have one model that explains everything we see and experience.  We can no more or less understand the true beginnings than anybody else, but at least the science is there to back up the theories.  Religion just says god made it, with no evidence to back it up, because it’s a belief, and by definition beliefs are unknowns until proven as being true.  Only then does it become knowledge.

If you took all of the books and written knowledge on Earth and destroyed it all, and wiped people’s minds free from bias, and started again, what do you think would happen?  All of the science books and laws as we understand them would be back, perhaps in a different language and over a different time frame, but science would repeat what we know now.  Anything to do with what we call religion would be different, because it’s all based on myth, stories and belief.  Just like nursery rhymes would be different, so would religions of the world.

It’s all well and good asking me to read this and that, but unless you’re prepared to read about scientific theory in return, there is no real discussion to be had, just arguing back and forth.  You believe the Earth is flat, I know it is not flat.  End of debate, right?  Except that’s not why I’m here, I’m here to educate myself and hopefully educate others too.  Not to change people’s views, but at least respect them more.

[SatanistsAreEvil]

Its all connected to each other , Try reading the Quran which is the holy book of muslims , give it a shot.

Changing the colour to purple doesn’t solidify your statement either, and I beg to differ.  The shape of the Earth has absolutely ZERO to do with beliefs, and everything to do with what we can scientifically observe, verify, model and prove.  The only loose connection is the belief that NASA and any other influential body is a conspiracy to hide things from us.  See here’s the thing - in one thread you’ve mentioned freemasonry, satanism, god, Qur’an, where the latter didn’t believe everything written before so they came up with yet another belief system.  There are multiple different religions all believing the same thing for different reasons, different things for the same reasons, and different things for different reasons.  Just like Flat Earth Theory they cannot agree on one single explanation, and they cannot all be right, except to just believe the Earth is flat.  Yet, here in the majority, we have one model that explains everything we see and experience.  We can no more or less understand the true beginnings than anybody else, but at least the science is there to back up the theories.  Religion just says god made it, with no evidence to back it up, because it’s a belief, and by definition beliefs are unknowns until proven as being true.  Only then does it become knowledge.

If you took all of the books and written knowledge on Earth and destroyed it all, and wiped people’s minds free from bias, and started again, what do you think would happen?  All of the science books and laws as we understand them would be back, perhaps in a different language and over a different time frame, but science would repeat what we know now.  Anything to do with what we call religion would be different, because it’s all based on myth, stories and belief.  Just like nursery rhymes would be different, so would religions of the world.

It’s all well and good asking me to read this and that, but unless you’re prepared to read about scientific theory in return, there is no real discussion to be had, just arguing back and forth.  You believe the Earth is flat, I know it is not flat.  End of debate, right?  Except that’s not why I’m here, I’m here to educate myself and hopefully educate others too.  Not to change people’s views, but at least respect them more.

I changed the color to be easy to read and notice cuz the text above is black.
Read the quran and see if you will find answers there or no , you will lose nothing , if its Bullshit you will warn others about it and if its true and showed you things you weren't seeing before then its good.

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Its all connected to each other , Try reading the Quran which is the holy book of muslims , give it a shot.

Changing the colour to purple doesn’t solidify your statement either, and I beg to differ.  The shape of the Earth has absolutely ZERO to do with beliefs, and everything to do with what we can scientifically observe, verify, model and prove.  The only loose connection is the belief that NASA and any other influential body is a conspiracy to hide things from us.  See here’s the thing - in one thread you’ve mentioned freemasonry, satanism, god, Qur’an, where the latter didn’t believe everything written before so they came up with yet another belief system.  There are multiple different religions all believing the same thing for different reasons, different things for the same reasons, and different things for different reasons.  Just like Flat Earth Theory they cannot agree on one single explanation, and they cannot all be right, except to just believe the Earth is flat.  Yet, here in the majority, we have one model that explains everything we see and experience.  We can no more or less understand the true beginnings than anybody else, but at least the science is there to back up the theories.  Religion just says god made it, with no evidence to back it up, because it’s a belief, and by definition beliefs are unknowns until proven as being true.  Only then does it become knowledge.

If you took all of the books and written knowledge on Earth and destroyed it all, and wiped people’s minds free from bias, and started again, what do you think would happen?  All of the science books and laws as we understand them would be back, perhaps in a different language and over a different time frame, but science would repeat what we know now.  Anything to do with what we call religion would be different, because it’s all based on myth, stories and belief.  Just like nursery rhymes would be different, so would religions of the world.

It’s all well and good asking me to read this and that, but unless you’re prepared to read about scientific theory in return, there is no real discussion to be had, just arguing back and forth.  You believe the Earth is flat, I know it is not flat.  End of debate, right?  Except that’s not why I’m here, I’m here to educate myself and hopefully educate others too.  Not to change people’s views, but at least respect them more.

I changed the color to be easy to read and notice cuz the text above is black.
Read the quran and see if you will find answers there or no , you will lose nothing , if its Bullshit you will warn others about it and if its true and showed you things you weren't seeing before then its good.

What answers am I looking for in the Qur’an?

[RhesusVX]

The quoted text is in a clear block above your text, doesn’t need colouring, but each unto their own.

You keep asking me to read to get answers.  Answers to what?  I’m not asking questions about god or religion, or what stories have been written about the observed Earth at the time they were written.  I understand why people claim the Earth is flat, and I’m more interested in the alternative scientific theories and counter-evidence put forward to defend that position, relating it to the real world and what we know and see around us.  With much respect, I have absolutely no desire to read religious texts any more than you have the desire to understand fundamental scientific principles and carry out your own experiments.