Re: Black Lives Matter
« Reply #100 on: July 10, 2020, 10:08:00 AM »
Right. Which is why I believe a lot of this comes back to affluence.
For historic racist reasons black families tend not to be as affluent. They weren't able to accrue the wealth which has trickled down generations in white families.

Coming back to a previous discussion about profiling. I questioned whether it was just about race. I found these stats from the UK:

https://data.gov.uk/dataset/a61f9145-be44-4895-9650-4cc583516ca6/stop-and-search-statistics-2018-19

I had a look and found:
88.2% of people who were stopped and searched were male. Why is no-one railing against a systematically sexist police force?
54.7% of people who were stopped were under 25. Are the police ageist too?

Everyone understands why those people are profiled. And if you look at the crime stats you'll know why race is a factor too, it just seems to be racist to say that bit even though it happens to be true.
If you are making your claim without evidence then we can discard it without evidence.

Nearly all flat earthers agree the earth is not a globe.

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Re: Black Lives Matter
« Reply #101 on: July 10, 2020, 10:17:04 AM »
The overwhelming reason why kids do not do well in the US is due to the loss of the nuclear family.

... is that based on opinion, or science?
Science.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4240051/
"Nearly three decades of research evaluating the impact of family structure on the health and well-being of children demonstrates that children living with their married, biological parents consistently have better physical, emotional, and academic well-being. "

This goes for everyone, regardless of the color their skin.
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Re: Black Lives Matter
« Reply #102 on: July 16, 2020, 07:41:39 PM »
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/16/politics/supreme-court-florida-felons/index.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fcnn_latest+%28RSS%3A+CNN+-+Most+Recent%29

This is the sort of disenfranchisement that evolved from Civil Rights movement. Poor felons are overwhelmingly black and so are barred from voting if they can’t pay a fine. Yes, there are some subset of that group who are just irresponsible asshats who are avoiding paying that fine but hey there is a subset of irresponsible asshats running corporations that avoid paying taxes because they are rich enough to say “get fucked“. They still get to vote though!

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Re: Black Lives Matter
« Reply #103 on: July 16, 2020, 08:28:51 PM »
The overwhelming reason why kids do not do well in the US is due to the loss of the nuclear family.

... is that based on opinion, or science?
Science.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4240051/
"Nearly three decades of research evaluating the impact of family structure on the health and well-being of children demonstrates that children living with their married, biological parents consistently have better physical, emotional, and academic well-being. "

This goes for everyone, regardless of the color their skin.

You uhh... you missed something there.

"The best scientific literature to date suggests that, with the exception of parents faced with unresolvable marital violence, children fare better when parents work at maintaining the marriage. Consequently, society should make every effort to support healthy marriages and to discourage married couples from divorcing."

You are basically quoting a paper that says Divorce of parents is usually bad for kids.  This does not support your claim.

Re: Black Lives Matter
« Reply #104 on: July 19, 2020, 04:03:23 AM »
 >o<what did he miss? the paper says kids do well that live with two parents with no violent history?
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Re: Black Lives Matter
« Reply #105 on: July 19, 2020, 10:48:51 AM »
>o<what did he miss? the paper says kids do well that live with two parents with no violent history?

Yes but his claim was that kids do poorly when the nuclear family: Mom, Dad, kids - is removed.  But you can have kids do well with a single parent, two moms, two dads, an aunt and uncle, etc...

And he used a paper stating that divorce is damaging to kids.  Which is true but doesn't support his claim as the divorce itself is damaging, not the loss of the mom and dad living together as a couple.

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Re: Black Lives Matter
« Reply #106 on: July 19, 2020, 03:10:51 PM »
Dave's point is that divorce itself is traumatizing, and the paper does nothing to address healthy non-nuclear families.

It was a terrible attempt on totallackey's part at trying to cherry-pick a source that he thought would help support his position.
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Re: Black Lives Matter
« Reply #107 on: July 20, 2020, 10:22:19 AM »
The overwhelming reason why kids do not do well in the US is due to the loss of the nuclear family.

... is that based on opinion, or science?
Science.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4240051/
"Nearly three decades of research evaluating the impact of family structure on the health and well-being of children demonstrates that children living with their married, biological parents consistently have better physical, emotional, and academic well-being. "

This goes for everyone, regardless of the color their skin.

You uhh... you missed something there.

"The best scientific literature to date suggests that, with the exception of parents faced with unresolvable marital violence, children fare better when parents work at maintaining the marriage. Consequently, society should make every effort to support healthy marriages and to discourage married couples from divorcing."

You are basically quoting a paper that says Divorce of parents is usually bad for kids.  This does not support your claim.
Of course it does.

Divorce =/= nuclear family.

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Re: Black Lives Matter
« Reply #108 on: July 20, 2020, 12:34:25 PM »
*sigh*
If I punch you in the face, does it hurt because I punched you, or because your face is now red instead of its usual color?

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Re: Black Lives Matter
« Reply #109 on: July 21, 2020, 01:18:58 AM »
This video pretty much sums up the liberal woke culture.

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Re: Black Lives Matter
« Reply #110 on: July 21, 2020, 04:40:27 AM »
That's pretty funny.

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Re: Black Lives Matter
« Reply #111 on: July 27, 2020, 09:39:46 AM »
Here is a link to related news.  However, in the spirit of our multi-political users, I have decided to make headlines based on various political bias.  Just so no one feels left out.

Protester shot and killed by driver.
Texas driver opened fired on crowded street, killing 1.
Driver protects himself from heavily armed protester.
Patriot, exercising his 2nd amendment rights, killed by driver.
Lawful gun owner killed by driver.
Lawful gun owner murders peaceful protester.

All these headlines are factually true.  Just different spins. 




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Re: Black Lives Matter
« Reply #112 on: July 29, 2020, 03:08:02 PM »