totallackey

White to play and win
« on: April 29, 2020, 12:04:12 PM »
Anybody have an idea on the winning move?

Offline ChrisTP

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Re: White to play and win
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2020, 12:28:37 PM »
not that I condone cheating but here;

https://nextchessmove.com/
Tom is wrong most of the time. Hardly big news, don't you think?

totallackey

Re: White to play and win
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2020, 12:33:27 PM »
not that I condone cheating but here;

https://nextchessmove.com/
Yeah, I don't want to cheat...

I want other people who like to play to discuss the progression...

Not even a quiz, just for discussion amongst ourselves to come to a best solution.

But thanks for the link.
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Re: White to play and win
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2020, 04:25:00 PM »
There is no winning move for white. None of their pieces can reach the king.
ur retartet but u donut even no it and i walnut tell u y

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Re: White to play and win
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2020, 05:50:39 PM »
I don't know, but I'd try Queen to C2 ... this relies on black 'wasting a move' which is why I'm not confident its the answer.

Then push the pawn at e4 forward one, opening an attack on both the knight and that weak pawn on G7 at the same time.

Exchange the pawns, the black knight defending g7 has to then move so now no longer protects G7.

Move the knight to F5 so it no also threatens g7 and then move the queen into g7 to finish the game.
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totallackey

Re: White to play and win
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2020, 12:15:05 PM »
There is no winning move for white. None of their pieces can reach the king.
If it was a "white to move and mate in one," puzzle, yeah...you would be correct.
I don't know, but I'd try Queen to C2 ... this relies on black 'wasting a move' which is why I'm not confident its the answer.
That doesn't necessarily mean your suggested move is wrong Thork.

Although you should always assume best possible move for both both sides.
Then push the pawn at e4 forward one, opening an attack on both the knight and that weak pawn on G7 at the same time.

Exchange the pawns, the black knight defending g7 has to then move so now no longer protects G7.

Move the knight to F5 so it no also threatens g7 and then move the queen into g7 to finish the game.
I like your analysis style.

What do you make of the white pawn on a6?

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Re: White to play and win
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2020, 01:50:49 PM »
What do you make of the white pawn on a6?

Its the distraction I need to pull off the thing I wanted to do. That extra 'wasted move'. It isn't possible to defend it from the pawn on B7 and pushing it into B7 just kills it too. Its not a very helpful piece.

Having been tempted to have a second look at this ...

Rook on A1 to A4.
This forces black to move his knight on c4 to a5. It can't go anywhere else. If black defend with pawn to d5 you just take it with the pawn on e4. If he replied with the pawn from e6, your queen then zooms up the board and has his Bishop with no reply and I feel you could close the game out pretty quick from there.
Next e5 to e6. He must take the pawn or move his knight. Moving the knight cedes all control of the centre of the board cos I already cleaned out the other knight.
Now move knight on f3 to f5 threatening the d7 fork on his queen and f8 rook.
All of that was forced ... and now black is a mess.
I can't see much further than that ... I start to forget where all the pieces are, but I feel like this is a better solution just tightening the screw on black.

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