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Flat Earth on UK Morning TV
« on: February 11, 2020, 09:24:50 PM »
This morning Mark Sargent (the guy who did the viral youtube video 'flat earth clues') was on 'This Morning' with Holly Willoughby and complete and utter piece of shit, Phillip Schofield. More on him below*.



Sargent didn't do a great job in the interview. And just from a political point of view, saying on British TV that all the Scots hate the English, as an American commentator ... are you an idiot, Sergant?

I found most of his rebuttals to be pretty weak. I was actually quite impressed with Schofield's line of questions. He wasn't just reading from an auto-cue. He'd obviously put in quite a bit of research to formulate his own arguments. I'd argue he was far better prepared for the interview than Sargent.



*Schofield's research into the topic despite the media shitstorm he has whipped up in recent days is quite amazing.
Last Friday Schofield decided to come out as gay. Despite his being married with two kids and being 57 years old and working in the media ... the was heralded as 'brave and courageous'.
On Saturday it was revealed he'd been grooming a 15 year old boy, by the time the kid was 18 he'd got him working on the show as a runner, and has been bumming him for the last 5 years behind his wife's back. Having fallen out, the runner had threatened to tell the media everything forcing cowardly Schofield to out himself to minimise the damage. The mainstream media have not reported any of this. Utter media black out. If you are gay ... you can cheat on your wife and groom children in the UK ... you are untouchable. Meanwhile news anchor Alistair Stewart of the same TV network was fired for Tweeting a line from Shakespeare that a black woman decided could be racist despite his having tweeted it to a white person in the past. Welcome to the Woke Kingdom.  >o<
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Re: Flat Earth on UK Morning TV
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2020, 11:11:11 PM »
Quite impressed that Schofield knew about the Antarctic Treaty.
Do you guys think Mark Sargent really is a Flat Earther? Or is he just in it for the clicks?
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Re: Flat Earth on UK Morning TV
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2020, 01:46:24 AM »
All of those last bullet points he made that he said no one could answer have been answered already. Calling it "spooky" that heat happens to get trapped easier in closed off spaces compared to open spaces where moonlight happens to hit just shows Mark Sargent really wants to believe the earth is flat despite the evidence. He enjoys the flat earth idea, enjoys the spotlight.
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Re: Flat Earth on UK Morning TV
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2020, 10:17:53 AM »
Do you guys think Mark Sargent really is a Flat Earther? Or is he just in it for the clicks?
Personally, I'm sceptical of anyone who associates with FEIC too closely. They're the same masterminds who got all giddy when Logan Paul reached out to them and asked if they'd like to be trolled, and the geniuses who manufactured the "Flat Earthers are going to Antarctica!" myth, only to then very impotently dismiss it. And their acronym begs to be pronounced as "fake", for Christ's sake.

I'm not going to go as far as to directly accuse anyone, but I think their group is at least partially compromised.
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Re: Flat Earth on UK Morning TV
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2020, 10:38:26 AM »
FE research must be controlled . Sargent and his group are there for that .

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Re: Flat Earth on UK Morning TV
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2020, 10:42:16 AM »
Funnily enough, that's what they say about us.
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Re: Flat Earth on UK Morning TV
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2020, 07:37:47 PM »
Should have asked about measured distances, what would he have said?

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Re: Flat Earth on UK Morning TV
« Reply #7 on: Today at 03:27:48 AM »
Sargent talks about preparing for the show and some background info here:

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"The biggest problem in astronomy is that when we look at something in the sky, we don’t know how far away it is" — Pauline Barmby, Ph.D., Professor of Astronomy

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Re: Flat Earth on UK Morning TV
« Reply #8 on: Today at 09:30:02 AM »
Sargent talks about getting preparing for the show and some background info here:

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Are there any salient points to take away from this?
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Re: Flat Earth on UK Morning TV
« Reply #9 on: Today at 12:10:05 PM »
Sargent talks about getting preparing for the show and some background info here:

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Are there any salient points to take away from this?

He talks about how they flew him out, how they went over questions, and then the hosts went off script to talk about the Concord, and how he shut down their surprise questions by responding about Tyson saying that no curve should be seen from a high altitude balloon. He was talking fast to cram everything into his time window, and forgot to plug his book. The hosts were very interested in the theory. He gave them gifts. Some of the producers believe in FE, and that's why they invited him on. That's about it.
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Re: Flat Earth on UK Morning TV
« Reply #10 on: Today at 12:14:42 PM »
He talks about .... Some of the producers believe in FE, and that's why they invited him on.

Holy carp.
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Re: Flat Earth on UK Morning TV
« Reply #11 on: Today at 02:43:29 PM »
the hosts went off script to talk about the Concord, and how he shut down their surprise questions by responding about Tyson saying that no curve should be seen from a high altitude balloon.
Tyson did say that to be fair.
That said, it's quite a common claim that it could be seen from Concorde and saying that Schofield saw the curve because he "wanted to" is a weak response.
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Re: Flat Earth on UK Morning TV
« Reply #12 on: Today at 03:17:21 PM »
That said, it's quite a common claim that it could be seen from Concorde and saying that Schofield saw the curve because he "wanted to" is a weak response.
It's a response that's usually true. There are plenty of idiots who claim to have seen the curve from altitudes where it absolutely shouldn't be possible under RET assumptions. They say it with unshakable conviction, despite the impossibility of their claim under either model. They see it because they want to see it.

We now have an altered claim in which the altitude has been increased to one where the curve is eh-kinda-possible-but-extremely-unlikely to see in one model, and still impossible in the other model. Suddenly, the response becomes weak in your eyes.

It sounds to me like you're assessing the strength of a response based solely on whether it caters to your RET presuppositions.
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