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UK to Australia & back
« on: February 06, 2020, 11:01:33 AM »
I'm based in the UK.  In April I'll be travelling to Australia.

Depending on your outlook on life, I'll be the other side of the globe or opposite ends of the same side of the coin for a couple of weeks.

Are there any observations I can make that would be in anyway helpful to this forum?  Moon phases, stars, attractiveness of the locals etc

If not, meh, I'll have a BBQ and enjoy my holiday.
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Re: UK to Australia & back
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2020, 01:08:43 PM »
Are the wildfires still going on? I wonder if you would really be able to see the sky clearly with smoke and such. I hope you've no family out there. :(
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Re: UK to Australia & back
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2020, 01:34:11 PM »
Are the wildfires still going on? I wonder if you would really be able to see the sky clearly with smoke and such. I hope you've no family out there. :(
Thank you for the concern. They seem to be past the worst and now it's a clean up / animal rescue operation. Terrifying stuff.

Good point about the air quality. I would hope by then it's cleared.
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Re: UK to Australia & back
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2020, 11:59:55 PM »
I am most interested in the little discussed "rolling" of the Moon's face over the course of the night, as seen from Australia. It's predicted by our EA theory. There are some helpful illustrations in the FE section on the Moon Tilt Illusion page:

https://wiki.tfes.org/Moon_Tilt_Illusion#Flat_Earth_Moon_Tilt

From April 1st to the 14th the Moon should be transitioning from gibbous waxing to full to gibbous waning phases, and would be an ideal time to view the Moon. From a location south of the Moon, such as in Australia, EA predicts that the face of the Moon should rotate counter-clockwise in the evening over the course of the night.

Simultaneously, a location north of the Moon should see the lunar face rolling clockwise.

It would be interesting if you can verify this counterclockwise rotation of the lunar face from the South. There are some Youtube videos claiming to show the roll of the Moon's face over the night, but the ones I've seen are often not well documented on the time the observations took place, the parallel nature of the recording device with the horizon, or the location. I have not yet seen a timelapse or montage of this taken in the South.

A further step would be to somehow check if the Moon's face is rolling in relation to a fixed point in space, such as the North Star (for Northern observations), Celestial Equator, or Sigma Octantis.
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Re: UK to Australia & back
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2020, 02:02:23 AM »
On an RE one would expect the Moon's face, and the Moon's north pole, to stay fixed in orientation with a fixed point in space.

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Re: UK to Australia & back
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2020, 08:31:16 AM »
On an RE one would expect the Moon's face, and the Moon's north pole, to stay fixed in orientation with a fixed point in space.

You asked the traveller to observe over the space of one night, but your illustration shows a full lunar cycle of 28 days, with the smaller illustration showing movement of the Moon over the same duration, but not the movement of the Earth over any one night in those 28.

Back in a few minutes once I've drawn something ...

EDIT - like this, for an illustrative top down view, not necessarily matching any date of the trip -
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Re: UK to Australia & back
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2020, 01:14:23 PM »
I'm based in the UK.  In April I'll be travelling to Australia.

Nearest city would be ...?
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Re: UK to Australia & back
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2020, 02:28:48 PM »
Bristol > Sydney
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Re: UK to Australia & back
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2020, 10:07:05 AM »
I'm based in the UK.  In April I'll be travelling to Australia.

Nearest city would be ...?

What would you suggest ?
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Re: UK to Australia & back
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2020, 10:17:31 AM »
I'm based in the UK.  In April I'll be travelling to Australia.

Nearest city would be ...?

What would you suggest ?

I was simply enquiring where you would be, not suggesting you travel to anywhere specific. I'm not going to plan your holiday for you, no .....
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Re: UK to Australia & back
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2020, 10:34:37 AM »
Please confirm that toilets do not flush the opposite way to which you are used to.


Whilst you are there and have an interest, make some effort to see the Southern Cross in the night's sky. That won't prove anything, but at least you can say you took some time to look at Southern Hemisphere constellations.
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Re: UK to Australia & back
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2020, 05:06:11 PM »
Please confirm that toilets do not flush the opposite way to which you are used to.


Whilst you are there and have an interest, make some effort to see the Southern Cross in the night's sky. That won't prove anything, but at least you can say you took some time to look at Southern Hemisphere constellations.
I thought Australians just shit in holes in the ground?

But I will look for the southern cross, thanks for the suggestion. Didn't even think about it when last I was there.
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Re: UK to Australia & back
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2020, 07:05:48 PM »
I thought Australians just shit in holes in the ground?
My understanding is that in highly populated urban centres, rich Australians use a contraption known as a thunderbox. Check for Coriolis in one of those.
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