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« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2019, 02:55:59 PM »
If Boris had been wearing two left shoes everyone would have fallen around laughing.
Good old Boris! *chuckle* Isn't he a laugh?! *guffaw*.
It's all cult of personality these days and Boris just has that bumbling affable likeability.
It doesn't seem to matter than most of what he spouts is a lie. He's Trumpesque in that regard - he's bulletproof when it comes to scandals or telling lies.
He's a lot smarter and more knowing about it than Trump but it's a depressingly effective tactic.
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« Reply #21 on: December 16, 2019, 03:24:47 PM »
Even more hilarious is that higher intelligence correlates with being a liberal.

I would like to see some sources for this. I would also like to know if by "liberal" you actually mean "liberal" or if you're erroneously referring to leftist ideologies as liberal.

Don’t sweat it too much. It was just me pushing back against nitwits who think “hurr durr you’re a [leftist/rightist] so you’re automatically the WORST!”

There are some stupid papers floating around that show people subscribing to left wing ideology have higher IQs, you can find the same for right wing. You can show that the poorest states vote GOP and the richest vote Dem. It just depends on what kind of sick game you want to play.

Like Thork with his “somewhere v anywhere” diatribe. I’m left wing because I think we should try and lift each other up. I also think we should strictly encourage people to learn to lift themselves up. These things aren’t in conflict. Some right wing people want to scour the Earth for a profit. So do some left wing people. Generalizations are the end of conversation and the beginning of enmity.

I hope the people of the UK and the USA and many other nations can get it together to realize their neighbors aren’t the enemy, no matter who they vote for. The people who would commoditise humans are the enemy.
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Re: Thork crows for a bit
« Reply #22 on: December 16, 2019, 07:54:01 PM »
Like Thork with his “somewhere v anywhere” diatribe. I’m left wing because I think we should try and lift each other up.

You’re picking a side the same as Thork. You’re left wing because you’ve succumbed to the same retard tribalism as anyone else.
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« Reply #23 on: December 16, 2019, 08:30:04 PM »
Like Thork with his “somewhere v anywhere” diatribe. I’m left wing because I think we should try and lift each other up.

You’re picking a side the same as Thork. You’re left wing because you’ve succumbed to the same retard tribalism as anyone else.

No, because I don't blindly follow my side.  I don't run around branding all people who claim to be right-wing as idiots except as a troll. Thork denies climate change because he listens to pundits instead of experts.  Thats retard tribalism. Bringing up the wealth of the average Dem, as if its relevant, is retard tribalism.
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« Reply #24 on: December 16, 2019, 08:46:11 PM »
Like Thork with his “somewhere v anywhere” diatribe. I’m left wing because I think we should try and lift each other up.

You’re picking a side the same as Thork. You’re left wing because you’ve succumbed to the same retard tribalism as anyone else.

No, because I don't blindly follow my side.  I don't run around branding all people who claim to be right-wing as idiots except as a troll. Thork denies climate change because he listens to pundits instead of experts.  Thats retard tribalism. Bringing up the wealth of the average Dem, as if its relevant, is retard tribalism.
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« Reply #25 on: December 16, 2019, 09:12:45 PM »
Like Thork with his “somewhere v anywhere” diatribe. I’m left wing because I think we should try and lift each other up.

You’re picking a side the same as Thork. You’re left wing because you’ve succumbed to the same retard tribalism as anyone else.

No, because I don't blindly follow my side.  I don't run around branding all people who claim to be right-wing as idiots except as a troll. Thork denies climate change because he listens to pundits instead of experts.  Thats retard tribalism. Bringing up the wealth of the average Dem, as if its relevant, is retard tribalism.

In your very first post in this thread you said conservatives were retarded. You then went on to try to mount an argument that liberals are more intelligent overall, and when asked for sources you realized that you couldn’t find any sources that clearly backed up your argument. So, you coyly retreated to a “guys I’m actually middle of the road, I just want to help people lol” position. I’m not sure why you’re so adamant in trying to disprove your original claim that liberals are more intelligent, but you’re doing a very good job.

As for me, I’ve typically made bipartisan votes in local and state elections because I’ve always thought the “vote with your party” idea is incredibly stupid. I’ve voted for left and right propositions because I don’t think one party can be right 100% of the time, or even close. But a lot changed as soon as people saw Donald Trump had an actual chance at becoming president. The left became a wild band of zealots, and ideas like reparations or suppressing freedom of expression so people wouldn’t be offended became a lot more than just liberal boogieman memes propagated by the right.

The left wants tax money to fight climate change, they want to repeal the 2nd Amendment yet harp on about rights, they want to do away with the electoral college because iT wAs HeR TuRn, they want more open borders AND a welfare state, they want to stay in Syria and kill more kids only because Trump wanted to leave. The list goes on and on. Conservatives might be mouth breathing retards, but the collective IQ of the left seems to have dropped by 30 points over the last several years alone.

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« Reply #26 on: December 16, 2019, 09:22:09 PM »
Like Thork with his “somewhere v anywhere” diatribe. I’m left wing because I think we should try and lift each other up.

You’re picking a side the same as Thork. You’re left wing because you’ve succumbed to the same retard tribalism as anyone else.

No, because I don't blindly follow my side.  I don't run around branding all people who claim to be right-wing as idiots except as a troll. Thork denies climate change because he listens to pundits instead of experts.  Thats retard tribalism. Bringing up the wealth of the average Dem, as if its relevant, is retard tribalism.

In your very first post in this thread you said conservatives were retarded. You then went on to try to mount an argument that liberals are more intelligent overall, and when asked for sources you realized that you couldn’t find any sources that clearly backed up your argument. So, you coyly retreated to a “guys I’m actually middle of the road, I just want to help people lol” position. I’m not sure why you’re so adamant in trying to disprove your original claim that liberals are more intelligent, but you’re doing a very good job.

As for me, I’ve typically made bipartisan votes in local and state elections because I’ve always thought the “vote with your party” idea is incredibly stupid. I’ve voted for left and right propositions because I don’t think one party can be right 100% of the time, or even close. But a lot changed as soon as people saw Donald Trump had an actual chance at becoming president. The left became a wild band of zealots, and ideas like reparations or suppressing freedom of expression so people wouldn’t be offended became a lot more than just liberal boogieman memes propagated by the right.

The left wants tax money to fight climate change, they want to repeal the 2nd Amendment yet harp on about rights, they want to do away with the electoral college because iT wAs HeR TuRn, they want more open borders AND a welfare state, they want to stay in Syria and kill more kids only because Trump wanted to leave. The list goes on and on. Conservatives might be mouth breathing retards, but the collective IQ of the left seems to have dropped by 30 points over the last several years alone.

Your parents should be very proud of you. They raised you right. You have a good nose for evil, good critical thinking, sense of community, sense of right and wrong, empathy, fairness and you aren't bullied with 'but muh feelings'. You're not a snivelling shit weasel who is thirsty for virtue and tumblr likes. You could be trusted with a gun.
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Re: Thork crows for a bit
« Reply #27 on: December 16, 2019, 09:47:41 PM »
Like Thork with his “somewhere v anywhere” diatribe. I’m left wing because I think we should try and lift each other up.

You’re picking a side the same as Thork. You’re left wing because you’ve succumbed to the same retard tribalism as anyone else.

No, because I don't blindly follow my side.  I don't run around branding all people who claim to be right-wing as idiots except as a troll. Thork denies climate change because he listens to pundits instead of experts.  Thats retard tribalism. Bringing up the wealth of the average Dem, as if its relevant, is retard tribalism.
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Literally proving my point. The guy who sits there and thinks that he can tell good from evil is the one you should never trust.

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I do the same, my dude. I am not chained down to voting for an ideology and if you look through my history here you can find me arguing for and against ideas I don’t like, whether left or right.

Lots of people lost their shit when Trump is elected. He is incompetent. Even more lost their shit because they were triggered. People lost their shit when Obama was elected too. American’s are good at losing their shit.

I bet if we had started our conversation here differently we would find common ground but when someone’s response to a pretty clear joke is “oh yeah? Well Dems are POOR!!!” I can’t take them seriously.

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« Reply #28 on: December 16, 2019, 11:03:34 PM »
Literally proving my point. The guy who sits there and thinks that he can tell good from evil is the one you should never trust.
I would posit that the guy who admits that he can't tell good from evil, is the one you should never trust.
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« Reply #29 on: December 16, 2019, 11:14:00 PM »
Literally proving my point. The guy who sits there and thinks that he can tell good from evil is the one you should never trust.
I would posit that the guy who admits that he can't tell good from evil, is the one you should never trust.

Sure. Let me know when you find this person and we can tease him/her mercilessly.
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« Reply #30 on: December 16, 2019, 11:33:18 PM »
Literally proving my point. The guy who sits there and thinks that he can tell good from evil is the one you should never trust.
I would posit that the guy who admits that he can't tell good from evil, is the one you should never trust.

Sure. Let me know when you find this person and we can tease him/her mercilessly.
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« Reply #31 on: December 16, 2019, 11:35:24 PM »
Literally proving my point. The guy who sits there and thinks that he can tell good from evil is the one you should never trust.
I would posit that the guy who admits that he can't tell good from evil, is the one you should never trust.

Sure. Let me know when you find this person and we can tease him/her mercilessly.
When I catch you walking up a path of utter bullshit and I call you out on it, have the good grace to own it. This isn't the upper fora.  ::)

I never said I couldn’t tell good from evil. The hilarity of you asking someone to own up to their BS is not lost on me btw.
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« Reply #32 on: December 16, 2019, 11:39:32 PM »
I never said I couldn’t tell good from evil.

Explain this quote.

The guy who sits there and thinks that he can tell good from evil is the one you should never trust.


So you think you can tell good from evil? Does that mean I should never trust you?

You don't have to die on this hill. You can just wave a little white flag and say "you win this time Baby Thork, you win this time" and it'll all go away.
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« Reply #33 on: December 16, 2019, 11:48:44 PM »
I never said I couldn’t tell good from evil.

Explain this quote.

The guy who sits there and thinks that he can tell good from evil is the one you should never trust.


So you think you can tell good from evil? Does that mean I should never trust you?

You don't have to die on this hill. You can just wave a little white flag and say "you win this time Baby Thork, you win this time" and it'll all go away.

If I started preaching about how people commoditising humans are shitheads I would not be surprised if you cast doubt on my position. I thinks that’s good and healthy. If you don’t trust me, it’s ok. Don’t trust away. Let’s talk about it like humans and not call each other evil is all I ask.
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« Reply #34 on: December 16, 2019, 11:59:37 PM »
Let’s talk about it like humans and not call each other evil is all I ask.
I never called you evil. I called Socialism evil. More people have died because of Socialism than have died in wars.



You don't mess around with socialism. You vote it out immediately. Bernie might look like a nice old fool ... but he's potentially a mass murderer if you make him POTUS. Trump might be an arse, but he's not wicked like Bernie.
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« Reply #35 on: December 17, 2019, 12:09:53 AM »
Let’s talk about it like humans and not call each other evil is all I ask.
I never called you evil. I called Socialism evil. More people have died because of Socialism than have died in wars.



You don't mess around with socialism. You vote it out immediately. Bernie might look like a nice old fool ... but he's potentially a mass murderer if you make him POTUS. Trump might be an arse, but he's not wicked like Bernie.


It wasn’t socialism that killed them, it was tyranny. Tyranny makes people devalue lives. Maybe socialism when it’s pervasive does that, I don’t think there is good evidence because dictators of every sort end up murdering their people. Bernie isn’t wicked either, what a silly thing to say. Obviously socialism isn’t perfect but elements of it obviously have a positive effect. It’s the same with free market capitalism. It’s not perfect, and if it were just left to run amok you would end up with more of the terrible shit corporate profiteering has resulted in.
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« Reply #36 on: December 17, 2019, 12:40:50 AM »
It wasn’t socialism that killed them, it was tyranny.
Socialism is tyranny.

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Socialism is any system that restricts or infringes upon the free exercise of human action or entrepreneurial role, and that is justified in the popular, political, and scientific discourse as a system capable of improving society and accomplishing a set goals and objectives that are considered to be good.

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Socialism is not what it claims to be. It is not the pioneer of a better and more beautiful world, but rather the destroyer of what thousands of years of civilization have painfully created. It builds nothing and  demolishes everything. If it were to triumph, it should be named destructionism, because it is, in essence, destruction.
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« Reply #37 on: December 17, 2019, 01:33:48 AM »
It wasn’t socialism that killed them, it was tyranny.
Socialism is tyranny.

No. Tyranny is tyranny.

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Socialism is any system that restricts or infringes upon the free exercise of human action or entrepreneurial role, and that is justified in the popular, political, and scientific discourse as a system capable of improving society and accomplishing a set goals and objectives that are considered to be good.

Quote from: Ludwig von Mises
Socialism is not what it claims to be. It is not the pioneer of a better and more beautiful world, but rather the destroyer of what thousands of years of civilization have painfully created. It builds nothing and  demolishes everything. If it were to triumph, it should be named destructionism, because it is, in essence, destruction.

I mean those are eloquent rants, but they are still just rants. I can quote Parsifal on how he thinks Dell computers are the worst shit ever, but it doesn’t mean he’s right.
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« Reply #38 on: December 17, 2019, 01:44:28 AM »
Socialism is when the top 1% convinces the top 49% to give all of their wealth to the bottom 50% for the good of all mankind.

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« Reply #39 on: December 17, 2019, 02:05:36 AM »
Capitalism is when the top 1% convince the other 99% to give the top 1% their wealth so they can be free.

Look I can make a pithy generalization too!
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