Im trying to build a rocket to prove the earth is flat
« on: August 15, 2019, 12:22:47 AM »
The goal is to attach a small camera to the outside of a solid state fuel rocket 3 miles into the air that will allow me to see that the earth is indeed flat.

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Please help.
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Re: Im trying to build a rocket to prove the earth is flat
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2019, 06:55:42 AM »
The goal is to attach a small camera to the outside of a solid state fuel rocket 3 miles into the air that will allow me to see that the earth is indeed flat.

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Please help.

3 Miles would be just north of 15,000 feet. Why not just take a commercial flight and look out your window, you'd be at 34k-38k feet. No rocket required.
« Last Edit: August 15, 2019, 09:38:28 AM by Pete Svarrior »
Not much is known about the celestial bodies and their distances.

Re: Im trying to build a rocket to prove the earth is flat
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2019, 07:21:43 AM »
The goal is to attach a small camera to the outside of a solid state fuel rocket 3 miles into the air that will allow me to see that the earth is indeed flat.

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Please help.

3 Miles would be just north of 15,000 feet. Why not just take a commercial flight and look out your window, you'd be at 34k-38k feet. No rocket required.

But you still need a view of like 60 degrees to see that your assumption of a flat earth is incorrect.
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Re: Im trying to build a rocket to prove the earth is flat
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2019, 08:34:21 AM »
The goal is to attach a small camera to the outside of a solid state fuel rocket 3 miles into the air that will allow me to see that the earth is indeed flat.

[fundraiser link removed ~pete]

Please help.

3 Miles would be just north of 15,000 feet. Why not just take a commercial flight and look out your window, you'd be at 34k-38k feet. No rocket required.

But you still need a view of like 60 degrees to see that your assumption of a flat earth is incorrect.

And then there's that too. You're not going to see a curve at 35k feet, maybe a smidge north of 75k, a smidge more at 100k. Why this person went to all the trouble set up a gofundme for 15k is baffling.
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Not much is known about the celestial bodies and their distances.

Re: Im trying to build a rocket to prove the earth is flat
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2019, 08:42:58 AM »
The goal is to attach a small camera to the outside of a solid state fuel rocket 3 miles into the air that will allow me to see that the earth is indeed flat.

[fundraiser link removed ~pete]

Please help.

3 Miles would be just north of 15,000 feet. Why not just take a commercial flight and look out your window, you'd be at 34k-38k feet. No rocket required.

But you still need a view of like 60 degrees to see that your assumption of a flat earth is incorrect.

And then there's that too. You're not going to see a curve at 35k feet, maybe a smidge north of 75k, a smidge more at 100k. Why this person went to all the trouble set up a gofundme for 15k is baffling.

Let's buy him a ladder, then he can have a look from 3 meters up!
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Re: Im trying to build a rocket to prove the earth is flat
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2019, 09:22:01 AM »
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The goal is to attach a small camera to the outside of a solid state fuel rocket 3 miles into the air that will allow me to see that the earth is indeed flat.

Good for you... but I can think of two (sorry.. three) reasons why it wouldn't work.

1. 3 miles up is not enough to see the curve of the Earth so seeing a flat horizon from that altitude would not prove your flat Earth belief.
2. The Earth is not flat so your experiment would fail even if you could make it to 30 or even 300 miles.
3. FE people seem to have a habit of not accepting evidence obtained from a camera.

From the FAQ page...

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In general, we at the Flat Earth Society do not lend much credibility to photographic evidence.

However it is your choice of course so good luck....

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Re: Im trying to build a rocket to prove the earth is flat
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2019, 09:43:59 AM »
Right, a few things:

Honu666 - you're a first-time poster and you're immediately begging for money. This is not how we do things around here, and I've removed all links to your fundraiser.

everyone else - there is absolutely no need for you to quote the entire thread every time you post. Please only use the quote function when it's actually useful (if in doubt - don't), and when you do, limit the quote's content to the relevant part.

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Let's buy him a ladder, then he can have a look from 3 meters up!
Keep your amazing clapbacks to CN and AR. You've only just come back from a ban for precisely this sort of stuff. I'll give you one last warning before a longer ban.
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Re: Im trying to build a rocket to prove the earth is flat
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2019, 04:40:11 PM »
The goal is to attach a small camera to the outside of a solid state fuel rocket 3 miles into the air that will allow me to see that the earth is indeed flat.

You can verify or deny this from the ground, from as little as 200m above sea level, by carrying out your own observational experiments. Shall I tell you how?
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Re: Im trying to build a rocket to prove the earth is flat
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2019, 03:09:05 PM »
The goal is to attach a small camera to the outside of a solid state fuel rocket 3 miles into the air that will allow me to see that the earth is indeed flat.

You can verify or deny this from the ground, from as little as 200m above sea level, by carrying out your own observational experiments. Shall I tell you how?

A trip to the top of pikes peak at 15k would do the same thing as his rocket.  It would prove nothing
If you are making your claim without evidence then we can discard it without evidence.

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Re: Im trying to build a rocket to prove the earth is flat
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2019, 06:09:12 AM »
hm, is this video useful?

https://www.facebook.com/conheciencia/videos/554165642057527/

Also, I think it is a great idea to build a rocket! You should most likely research that with scientific books! The help us with so much! You'd most likely need to know a little bit about science to build a rocket! I hope you shoot it 300,000 km in the air with that rocket! Make sure the math (aka science) is correct!! Best of luck!!!
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Re: Im trying to build a rocket to prove the earth is flat
« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2019, 12:19:58 AM »
Buy a plane ticket. Cheaper and faster. You can get to 30k feet and see the curved horizon for yourself. Then come back to earth and get on with your life.

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Re: Im trying to build a rocket to prove the earth is flat
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2019, 02:39:16 AM »
Buy a plane ticket. Cheaper and faster. You can get to 30k feet and see the curved horizon for yourself. Then come back to earth and get on with your life.

1) Don't bump an old thread to add nothing to it other than an off-topic post.

2) Even if earth were round you would not see curvature at 30k feet; I suggest you go do some homework and then get on with your life.

3) 2nd warning.

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Re: Im trying to build a rocket to prove the earth is flat
« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2019, 10:56:14 AM »
2) Even if earth were round you would not see curvature at 30k feet; I suggest you go do some homework and then get on with your life.

My "homework" took me to geometrical descriptions of a Spherical Cap. This geometry dictates what can be seen from a set height above a spherical surface. Any sphere will do.

An alternative approach to "looking for curve" is to determine what landmarks and land features can be clearly discerned from that height, ideally mapping these out 360 degrees around the craft.

Armed with these, look at a map of the area, and chart the limits of what can be seen, matching this with the limit determined by the SC geometry. Do the features at the limit of observation match those that would be expected at the extremity of the cap? Or not?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_cap 
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Re: Im trying to build a rocket to prove the earth is flat
« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2019, 07:59:27 PM »
My "homework" took me to geometrical descriptions of a Spherical Cap.
Why waste your time when people already did the work for you?

https://thulescientific.com/Lynch%20Curvature%202008.pdf
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