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Re: Game of Thrones
« Reply #60 on: May 06, 2014, 09:32:46 AM »
I've watched the first three or four episodes of GoT and, I'll be honest, I don't really get it. I mean, it's nicely shot, competently acted, and the music is quite nice but nothing which seems to set it apart from any other fantasy series except for tedious and endless sex scenes, oh and some blood-n-guts.

Er.. Have you read the books? ASOIAF is very grounded and 'realistic' compared to other fantasy series that I've read. Major characters are not protected by plot armour, magic is a mysterious and rare force that isn't well defined.

No, I haven't. How does that affect whether or not I like the TV series?

Re: Game of Thrones
« Reply #61 on: May 06, 2014, 11:00:28 AM »
I've watched the first three or four episodes of GoT and, I'll be honest, I don't really get it. I mean, it's nicely shot, competently acted, and the music is quite nice but nothing which seems to set it apart from any other fantasy series except for tedious and endless sex scenes, oh and some blood-n-guts.

Er.. Have you read the books? ASOIAF is very grounded and 'realistic' compared to other fantasy series that I've read. Major characters are not protected by plot armour, magic is a mysterious and rare force that isn't well defined.

No, I haven't. How does that affect whether or not I like the TV series?

Well, the show is pretty hollow. It's missing a lot of the details, despite their best efforts to shove them into every bit of dialogue. The books also do a better job of explaining my point. If I hadn't read the books, I probably wouldn't watch the show. At least.. maybe not every week.

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Re: Game of Thrones
« Reply #62 on: May 06, 2014, 02:04:24 PM »
Ignore Vindictus, he's being a stereotypical book snob.  There are millions of people who enjoy the show without having read the books, so they're not mandatory background.  That being said, I have no idea what fantasy series you think that it isn't all that different from.

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« Reply #63 on: May 06, 2014, 04:19:17 PM »
I'm not a massive fantasy fan, in fact the only fantasy series I've enjoyed are Discworld and the Wind Singer series. The little I've seen of GoT doesn't look likely to change my mind. Even with gratuitous sex scenes.

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Re: Game of Thrones
« Reply #64 on: May 06, 2014, 05:25:11 PM »
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Re: Game of Thrones
« Reply #65 on: May 06, 2014, 08:12:18 PM »
floppy?

Re: Game of Thrones
« Reply #66 on: May 06, 2014, 09:27:51 PM »
I've watched the first three or four episodes of GoT and, I'll be honest, I don't really get it. I mean, it's nicely shot, competently acted, and the music is quite nice but nothing which seems to set it apart from any other fantasy series except for tedious and endless sex scenes, oh and some blood-n-guts.

Er.. Have you read the books? ASOIAF is very grounded and 'realistic' compared to other fantasy series that I've read. Major characters are not protected by plot armour, magic is a mysterious and rare force that isn't well defined.

No, I haven't. How does that affect whether or not I like the TV series?

Well, the show is pretty hollow. It's missing a lot of the details, despite their best efforts to shove them into every bit of dialogue. The books also do a better job of explaining my point. If I hadn't read the books, I probably wouldn't watch the show. At least.. maybe not every week.

It's true, there is much more emphasis being put on what's being eaten in the books.
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Re: Game of Thrones
« Reply #67 on: May 06, 2014, 10:18:47 PM »

It's true, there is much more emphasis being put on what's being eaten in the books.

This is a good thing.

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Re: Game of Thrones
« Reply #68 on: May 12, 2014, 05:08:33 PM »
moar

Asha Yara's plan to rescue Theon petered out rather lamely.  Apart from that, this episode was good.  It was great to see more of Varys, and Peter Dinklage gave a fine performance.

@Chris: I guess the show just isn't for you, which is fine.  It's okay to not like things.  I just wouldn't really criticize the show for being too similar to other fantasy series, because, well, it's not.  It deconstructs the high fantasy format by putting an emphasis on the political shenanigans and the lengths to which the elite will go to obtain and keep power.  The one show that it's the most similar to thematically is The Wire.

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Re: Game of Thrones
« Reply #69 on: May 12, 2014, 05:14:45 PM »
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Re: Game of Thrones
« Reply #70 on: May 12, 2014, 05:30:57 PM »
It's basically medieval/renaissance history with some dragons, some weird creatures up in the north, and direwolves. It's one of the most realistic fantasies out there with a lot of character depth. If you don't like it that's probably more to do with the drama than the fantasy aspect. The boyfriend can't get into it and he loves fantasy, he just isn't much of a character-driven drama person.

Apparently Dinklage blew people away in the episode last night. People were making status updates about his performance. What was going on with Tyrion in this one?

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Re: Game of Thrones
« Reply #71 on: May 12, 2014, 05:35:23 PM »
Does this series still suck?

The boyfriend can't get into it and he loves fantasy, he just isn't much of a character-driven drama person.

For me it has nothing to do with drama. I love good character drama, it's what makes a series for me. Your generalization is incorrect.
It's probably because of all the gratuitous sex scenes. It is extremely unnecessary and adds absolutely nothing to the plot other than "omg so edgey HBO lol". That is my #1 issue with the series. I have no problem with sex scenes normally, however, there are ways to imply sex or show romance or betrayal without showing a 10 minute scene of the characters doing it. It is extremely distasteful and uncomfortable to the point where I cannot and will not watch it.
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« Reply #72 on: May 12, 2014, 07:15:34 PM »
I don't like the nudity either, but I'd hesitate to call them gratuitous and I certainly don't think they ruin the series.

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Re: Game of Thrones
« Reply #73 on: May 12, 2014, 07:31:04 PM »
I don't like the nudity either, but I'd hesitate to call them gratuitous and I certainly don't think they ruin the series.

If I have to skip 20 minute long sex scenes then I think that qualifies as a ruined series, for me at least. Of course, everyone is different.

Re: Game of Thrones
« Reply #74 on: May 12, 2014, 08:46:05 PM »
I don't like the nudity either, but I'd hesitate to call them gratuitous and I certainly don't think they ruin the series.

If I have to skip 20 minute long sex scenes then I think that qualifies as a ruined series, for me at least. Of course, everyone is different.

Is there a sex scene that long in any of the episodes?

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Re: Game of Thrones
« Reply #75 on: May 12, 2014, 09:18:09 PM »
A more realistic fantasy. Oh my jesus. You nerds will argue about anything, won't you?
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Re: Game of Thrones
« Reply #76 on: May 12, 2014, 09:31:01 PM »
20 minute long sex scenes

What TV show are you watching?!

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Re: Game of Thrones
« Reply #77 on: May 12, 2014, 10:11:34 PM »
20 minute long sex scenes

What TV show are you watching?!

A show with 45 minute sex scenes. Game of Bones.

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Re: Game of Thrones
« Reply #78 on: May 12, 2014, 10:12:16 PM »
Does this series still suck?

The boyfriend can't get into it and he loves fantasy, he just isn't much of a character-driven drama person.

For me it has nothing to do with drama. I love good character drama, it's what makes a series for me. Your generalization is incorrect.
It's probably because of all the gratuitous sex scenes. It is extremely unnecessary and adds absolutely nothing to the plot other than "omg so edgey HBO lol". That is my #1 issue with the series. I have no problem with sex scenes normally, however, there are ways to imply sex or show romance or betrayal without showing a 10 minute scene of the characters doing it. It is extremely distasteful and uncomfortable to the point where I cannot and will not watch it.
10-20 minute sex scenes? No.

The books have a lot of sex so it's not all HBO's doing. And I find this kinda weird in general. I hate porn but these scenes don't make me uncomfortable at all. I could understand if you thought they were just thrown in there pointlessly, but they're generally not.

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Re: Game of Thrones
« Reply #79 on: May 13, 2014, 04:30:05 AM »
Come on, guys, let's not be fanboys here.  The sex scenes are objectively terrible.  Almost all of them are just there to liven up some exposition, not to actually establish relationships or anything.

Apparently Dinklage blew people away in the episode last night. People were making status updates about his performance. What was going on with Tyrion in this one?

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