Re: What happened to flight MH370?
« Reply #100 on: March 19, 2014, 12:27:27 PM »
Perhaps a signal from a mobile phone that was left on interfered with the electronics of the plane causing it to do weird things.
Yes, and petrol stations blow up if you use a phone close to the pumps.

The probability is remote however it is possible that a mobile phone could cause a fire at a petrol station.

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Re: What happened to flight MH370?
« Reply #101 on: March 19, 2014, 12:38:55 PM »
The probability is remote however it is possible that a mobile phone could cause a fire at a petrol station.
Well, yes, so could shoes. We should ban those too.

Are you allowed to use mobile phones at petrol filling stations?

Generally mobile telephones are not designed and certified for use in explosive atmospheres. Their use can also create a serious distraction for people carrying out dispensing activities. Radio transmissions from individual mobile telephones are generally too low to induce dangerous electric currents in nearby equipment and the risk of incendive sparking from the battery is low, however, they should not be used in the hazardous areas that exist when actually dispensing petrol. Neither should they be used in the hazardous areas around the fill and vent pipes during petrol deliveries.

Rather than applying a total prohibition on the use of mobile telephones on petrol forecourts which has resulted in some anomalies and frequent abuse to staff, the following controls are recommended:

   
  • Mobile telephones should not be used by customers or forecourt staff whilst actually dispensing petrol into fuel tanks or containers;
  • During petrol deliveries mobile telephones should not be used on those parts of the site that have been designated as hazardous areas by the site operator or the driver;
  • Mobile telephones should not be used during other petrol handling operations or during the maintenance of petrol equipment unless a specific assessment shows the risks are negligible;
  • There is no need to restrict the use of mobile telephones, with respect to the safe keeping of petrol, at other times or in other areas of the forecourt. This includes in the shop, in motor vehicles parked on the forecourt or in other non-hazardous areas.

The use of radio equipment fitted on emergency vehicles and citizen band (CB) radios may create an ignition risk. These types of transmitting equipment do have a power output sufficient to induce dangerous electrical currents in nearby fixtures and they should not be allowed to be used at the dispensing points or in the vicinity of the road tanker when unloading. It should be noted that the radio equipment mounted on most emergency vehicles is under automatic interrogation from the base station. This means that radio messages are being received and transmitted without anyone speaking into a hand set. The Home Office has issued the emergency services with separate advice on the use of radios and CB equipment in the vicinity of filling stations.
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Re: What happened to flight MH370?
« Reply #102 on: March 19, 2014, 01:29:51 PM »
The probability is remote however it is possible that a mobile phone could cause a fire at a petrol station.
Well, yes, so could shoes. We should ban those too.

Are you allowed to use mobile phones at petrol filling stations?

Generally mobile telephones are not designed and certified for use in explosive atmospheres. Their use can also create a serious distraction for people carrying out dispensing activities. Radio transmissions from individual mobile telephones are generally too low to induce dangerous electric currents in nearby equipment and the risk of incendive sparking from the battery is low, however, they should not be used in the hazardous areas that exist when actually dispensing petrol. Neither should they be used in the hazardous areas around the fill and vent pipes during petrol deliveries.

Rather than applying a total prohibition on the use of mobile telephones on petrol forecourts which has resulted in some anomalies and frequent abuse to staff, the following controls are recommended:

   
  • Mobile telephones should not be used by customers or forecourt staff whilst actually dispensing petrol into fuel tanks or containers;
  • During petrol deliveries mobile telephones should not be used on those parts of the site that have been designated as hazardous areas by the site operator or the driver;
  • Mobile telephones should not be used during other petrol handling operations or during the maintenance of petrol equipment unless a specific assessment shows the risks are negligible;
  • There is no need to restrict the use of mobile telephones, with respect to the safe keeping of petrol, at other times or in other areas of the forecourt. This includes in the shop, in motor vehicles parked on the forecourt or in other non-hazardous areas.

The use of radio equipment fitted on emergency vehicles and citizen band (CB) radios may create an ignition risk. These types of transmitting equipment do have a power output sufficient to induce dangerous electrical currents in nearby fixtures and they should not be allowed to be used at the dispensing points or in the vicinity of the road tanker when unloading. It should be noted that the radio equipment mounted on most emergency vehicles is under automatic interrogation from the base station. This means that radio messages are being received and transmitted without anyone speaking into a hand set. The Home Office has issued the emergency services with separate advice on the use of radios and CB equipment in the vicinity of filling stations.

Ok, I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. You seem to be reinforcing my point.

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Re: What happened to flight MH370?
« Reply #103 on: March 19, 2014, 06:38:45 PM »
Ok, I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. You seem to be reinforcing my point.
You had a point?

You made a snarky remark about an antiquated urban legend, I responded by citing another urban legend, assuming we're both in on the joke. You then asserted that this urban legend is partially true, and I posted something that shows it not to be the case.
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Re: What happened to flight MH370?
« Reply #104 on: March 20, 2014, 04:20:06 AM »
So a commercial plane can disappear with the flip of a switch? Why?
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Re: What happened to flight MH370?
« Reply #105 on: March 20, 2014, 04:52:28 AM »
There isn't a spot on Earth that isn't being radar'd to death by one nation or another, and commercial airplanes don't exactly have small radar signatures. Someone knows where this plane is and for whatever reason, isn't saying anything or is purposefully hiding it.

Definitely illuminati.

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Re: What happened to flight MH370?
« Reply #106 on: March 20, 2014, 05:20:19 AM »
What is to gain by this? Or by hiding this?
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Re: What happened to flight MH370?
« Reply #107 on: March 20, 2014, 05:22:06 AM »
What is to gain by this? Or by hiding this?

Most countries would refrain from saying something in order to prevent disclosure of their full radar capabilities, at least that is the most logical reason without resorting to straight conspiracy bullshit.

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Re: What happened to flight MH370?
« Reply #108 on: March 20, 2014, 05:30:52 AM »
I feel as though the US monitors the world, and knows. I could be wrong, but is there a place on earth the US cannot see? I doubt it
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Re: What happened to flight MH370?
« Reply #109 on: March 20, 2014, 10:23:34 AM »
There isn't a spot on Earth that isn't being radar'd to death by one nation or another, and commercial airplanes don't exactly have small radar signatures. Someone knows where this plane is and for whatever reason, isn't saying anything or is purposefully hiding it.

Definitely illuminati.

Not true. There's heaps of areas that aren't actively or intensely monitored. Australia is supposed to have amazing radar, apparently capable of detecting the type of plane taking off at Changi airport in Singapore, but Tony Abbott just held a press conference regarding suspicious debris off the west coast. Then again, a military spokesman chose not to comment on this when asked why our radar didn't detect anything.
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Re: What happened to flight MH370?
« Reply #110 on: March 20, 2014, 04:52:01 PM »
Perhaps a signal from a mobile phone that was left on interfered with the electronics of the plane causing it to do weird things.
Yes, and petrol stations blow up if you use a phone close to the pumps.

The probability is remote however it is possible that a mobile phone could cause a fire at a petrol station.

If you're worried about something causing a fire at a petrol station I would look for high voltage electrical switching systems. These are used by terrorists to generate collapsing magnetic fields that briefly generate deadly electrical currents, causing a spark that can be several millimetres across. According to my local sheriffs department, who put out a warning this morning, in the past this wasn't a problem because such systems are quite heavy. But terrorists (Al Qaeda) have recently discovered a way of moving these "dirty bombs" around on wheels, meaning they can just "drive" it onto the forecourt.

Of course you won't hear about this in the lamestream media because Obama doesn't want you to know the danger you are constantly under.

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Re: What happened to flight MH370?
« Reply #111 on: March 20, 2014, 06:49:13 PM »

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Re: What happened to flight MH370?
« Reply #112 on: March 20, 2014, 08:19:46 PM »


See, it is funny because no one knows where the plane depicted in the bottom image is located at the moment. 

Re: What happened to flight MH370?
« Reply #113 on: March 20, 2014, 08:56:18 PM »
F-22 is 'stealthier' than a B-2.

Re: What happened to flight MH370?
« Reply #114 on: March 20, 2014, 09:24:30 PM »
Perhaps a signal from a mobile phone that was left on interfered with the electronics of the plane causing it to do weird things.
Yes, and petrol stations blow up if you use a phone close to the pumps.

The probability is remote however it is possible that a mobile phone could cause a fire at a petrol station.

If you're worried about something causing a fire at a petrol station I would look for high voltage electrical switching systems. These are used by terrorists to generate collapsing magnetic fields that briefly generate deadly electrical currents, causing a spark that can be several millimetres across. According to my local sheriffs department, who put out a warning this morning, in the past this wasn't a problem because such systems are quite heavy. But terrorists (Al Qaeda) have recently discovered a way of moving these "dirty bombs" around on wheels, meaning they can just "drive" it onto the forecourt.

Of course you won't hear about this in the lamestream media because Obama doesn't want you to know the danger you are constantly under.

Signal jammers. They've been around for years.

I'm not worried. The probability of a mobile phone causing a fire at a petrol station is remote.


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Re: What happened to flight MH370?
« Reply #116 on: March 21, 2014, 01:43:35 AM »

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Re: What happened to flight MH370?
« Reply #117 on: March 21, 2014, 02:23:55 AM »
If you're worried about something causing a fire at a petrol station I would look for high voltage electrical switching systems. These are used by terrorists to generate collapsing magnetic fields that briefly generate deadly electrical currents, causing a spark that can be several millimetres across. According to my local sheriffs department, who put out a warning this morning, in the past this wasn't a problem because such systems are quite heavy. But terrorists (Al Qaeda) have recently discovered a way of moving these "dirty bombs" around on wheels, meaning they can just "drive" it onto the forecourt.
I'd be more worried about sparks from static build up when you get in and out of your vehicle while the gas is pumping.
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Re: What happened to flight MH370?
« Reply #118 on: March 21, 2014, 08:13:28 PM »
I'd be more worried about sparks from static build up when you get in and out of your vehicle while the gas is pumping.

That's what they want you to think. "Static" electricity was disproven over 100 years ago.

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Re: What happened to flight MH370?
« Reply #119 on: March 24, 2014, 07:46:16 PM »
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/24/mh370-indian-ocean_n_5020832.html

Looks like the mystery has been solved, supposedly.