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Himawari 8 Satellite Analysis
« on: January 25, 2019, 01:24:16 AM »
An interesting analysis of the Hamarawi 8 satellite. Documents are found on NOAA's FTP that the underlying model is the Blue Marble dataset.

The Himawari 8 is the weather satellite which is supposedly far enough from the earth to take continuous photos of the whole half of the earth it is over

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Re: Himawari 8 Satellite Analysis
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2019, 02:01:02 AM »
But the Himawari is JAPANESE not NASA so it can't be fake.  /sarc 

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Re: Himawari 8 Satellite Analysis
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2019, 02:11:00 AM »
An interesting analysis of the Hamarawi 8 satellite. Documents are found on NOAA's FTP that the underlying model is the Blue Marble dataset.

The Himawari 8 is the weather satellite which is supposedly far enough from the earth to take continuous photos of the whole half of the earth it is over



This video is a repost of a paul on the plane video. Couple of things to note that others pointed out. PotP is essentially referencing the wrong ftp archive, NOAA. Which is the thrust of the entire argument. NOAA is just a downstream archive. He should have been looking at the Himawari 8 JMA ftp (Japan Meteorological Agency). That's where the actual source data is, not NOAA. I would say, good video, well presented. Just too many assumptions and not examining the right evidence.

The other thing to note, not relevant, just interesting, Paul on The Plane really has no love for the Society(s). All his videos have this in the description, front and center:

"I AM *NOT* A MEMBER OF THE FLAT EARTH SOCIETY. THEY ARE A CONTROLLED OPPOSITION GROUP WHO PROPAGATE LIES ABOUT TRUE FLAT EARTH THEORIES AND OVERALL TRUTH MOVEMENT."

What's that all about? Does it all come down to the UA versus nonUA thing?
Not much is known about the celestial bodies and their distances.

Re: Himawari 8 Satellite Analysis
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2019, 02:23:40 AM »
An interesting analysis of the Hamarawi 8 satellite. Documents are found on NOAA's FTP that the underlying model is the Blue Marble dataset.

The Himawari 8 is the weather satellite which is supposedly far enough from the earth to take continuous photos of the whole half of the earth it is over



This video is a repost of a paul on the plane video. Couple of things to note that others pointed out. PotP is essentially referencing the wrong ftp archive, NOAA. Which is the thrust of the entire argument. NOAA is just a downstream archive. He should have been looking at the Himawari 8 JMA ftp (Japan Meteorological Agency). That's where the actual source data is, not NOAA. I would say, good video, well presented. Just too many assumptions and not examining the right evidence.

The other thing to note, not relevant, just interesting, Paul on The Plane really has no love for the Society(s). All his videos have this in the description, front and center:

"I AM *NOT* A MEMBER OF THE FLAT EARTH SOCIETY. THEY ARE A CONTROLLED OPPOSITION GROUP WHO PROPAGATE LIES ABOUT TRUE FLAT EARTH THEORIES AND OVERALL TRUTH MOVEMENT."

What's that all about? Does it all come down to the UA versus nonUA thing?

People in the comments section are upset because they think the data being referenced is for the satellite called "GOES".  This is incorrect. The confusion comes from the fact that the video references the website ftp://ftp.nnvl.noaa.gov/GOES/HIMAWARI/ which, yes, is a NOAA website but the content of that particular page is about the HImawari.

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Re: Himawari 8 Satellite Analysis
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2019, 02:30:19 AM »
An interesting analysis of the Hamarawi 8 satellite. Documents are found on NOAA's FTP that the underlying model is the Blue Marble dataset.

The Himawari 8 is the weather satellite which is supposedly far enough from the earth to take continuous photos of the whole half of the earth it is over

This video is a repost of a paul on the plane video. Couple of things to note that others pointed out. PotP is essentially referencing the wrong ftp archive, NOAA. Which is the thrust of the entire argument. NOAA is just a downstream archive. He should have been looking at the Himawari 8 JMA ftp (Japan Meteorological Agency). That's where the actual source data is, not NOAA. I would say, good video, well presented. Just too many assumptions and not examining the right evidence.

The other thing to note, not relevant, just interesting, Paul on The Plane really has no love for the Society(s). All his videos have this in the description, front and center:

"I AM *NOT* A MEMBER OF THE FLAT EARTH SOCIETY. THEY ARE A CONTROLLED OPPOSITION GROUP WHO PROPAGATE LIES ABOUT TRUE FLAT EARTH THEORIES AND OVERALL TRUTH MOVEMENT."

What's that all about? Does it all come down to the UA versus nonUA thing?

People in the comments section are upset because they think the data being referenced is for the satellite called "GOES".  This is incorrect. The confusion comes from the fact that the video references the website ftp://ftp.nnvl.noaa.gov/GOES/HIMAWARI/ which, yes, is a NOAA website but the content of that particular page is about the HImawari.

Sure. But that's why you go to JMA, the source, to do your debunking research. Not to downstream 'vendor's' like NOAA. If you're gonna attempt to debunk, do it right.
Not much is known about the celestial bodies and their distances.

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Re: Himawari 8 Satellite Analysis
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2019, 06:32:10 AM »
Why would the NOAA, who partners with the JMA on Hamawawi, lie about the satellite and make things up about it being based on blue marble? That seems to be a questionable choice of defense.

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Re: Himawari 8 Satellite Analysis
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2019, 07:30:54 AM »
Why would the NOAA, who partners with the JMA on Hamawawi, lie about the satellite and make things up about it being based on blue marble? That seems to be a questionable choice of defense.

Where did it say NOAA was lying?

Again, NOAA/GOES is downstream from JMA. NOAA uses Hamawawi 8 imagery, infrared and non, for all sorts of views. For instance, here's a NOAA/GOES image:



If PotP saw this he would probably be ranting about how obviously fake satellite images are b/c they show political boundaries.
Not much is known about the celestial bodies and their distances.

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Re: Himawari 8 Satellite Analysis
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2019, 06:38:03 PM »
Why would the NOAA, who partners with the JMA on Hamawawi, lie about the satellite and make things up about it being based on blue marble? That seems to be a questionable choice of defense.

Nobody has said they are lying.

What they do with the data they receive from JMA is irrelevant, if you want to look at the actual data, go to the source. That's the Himawari or JMA sites, not those of the people who are buying the data from them and subsequently overlaying it onto something else.

https://www.data.jma.go.jp/mscweb/data/himawari/sat_img.php?area=fd_

http://www.data.jma.go.jp/mscweb/en/VRL/VLab_RGB/RGBimage.html
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