This is a blatant straw man argument. We were talking about this solar system. Saturn in particular.
Your straw men are not at all the same case - on several counts. Three I can think of right off - 1) Formation of planets is a different thing than a planet that was formed 4 billion years ago. 2) those rings are a completely different dynamic/shape/consistency than are the rings around the planets in our solar system. 3) Those situations are basically gas whirlpools spiraling into the main body, thick and fluffy - nothing like our planetary rings which are extremely thin and consist of particulate and coalesced solid matter in long term stable orbits.
I'll state it again, there is no gas in the rings of Saturn or any other planet here and there cannot be.
I thought we were talking about the formation of celestial bodies.
You had said this:
"None of the current theory on how bodies form in space will allow for a flat body. So that part of my question was seeking, though inquiry, what new and wonderful theory the FEs had devised to account for what caused it. The other, on the age, was to determine how fast this enormous flat body they thought up might be now traveling WRT it's birthplace."
My response was that flat disk shaped celestial bodies do form on a regular basis. I gave examples of flat, disk shaped, celestial bodies such as planetary disks, and the rings of Saturn. You can chose to accept that flat disk shaped celestial bodies do form on a regular basis or reject it. Either way you got your answers.