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I hope all the answers to my questions are based on flat earth theory....
I hope I am wrong about this. But I think the problem with your question is that there is no flat earth theory. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory#Scientific_theories
When was the last time you went to the movies?
You might recall that Hollywood is pretty good at making motion pictures. They make the impossible possible.
NASA and their ridiculous budget can and do produce motion pictures. They actually aren't as good as Hollywood to be honest. Maybe they are just lazy half ass bastards and pocket most of the cash.
The accounts of the "Astronauts" are not very valid, just like actors in Hollywood, they are paid to sell you the scene.
You will never find a video that proves anything to you because you cannot bring yourself to doubt these government entities in the slightest.
You begin by doubting and questioning the status quo.
Until then, you will remain with kool aid stained lips.
Yep, they could do that. Why?? Give me a plausible reason. Oh, BTW, your reason has to cover every other governmental, commercial, and private entity that maintains this lie.
Basically, you have an unfounded, delusional belief and anyone that doesn't agree with you is a kool-aid drinking sheep. It's laughable. People knew the Earth was round for THOUSANDS of years before NASA was created. Further, neither NASA or the US were the first in space. There are people who can help with your paranoia.
In order for you to understand the reason as to why they would want to hide the true shape and structure of the ecosystem we live in, you must first understand who our enemy is.
Then and only then will you be able to open your heart to this reality.
We are all conditioned to believe certain things and act a certain way.
Are you an atheist?
No, not an atheist, nor am I a satanist. No church teaches the Earth is flat.
QuoteIf you do, then I recommend you look into the centrifugal equation. Fc = mv^2/r
Well, the Round Earth radius is about 6,400 km everywhere, and circumference is about 40,000 km.
Vt= 40,000 km / 24 hr = 460 m/s
Ac = v^2/r = 460^2/(6.4e6) = 0.03 m/sec^2 (also available like this: https://www.google.com/search?q=centripetal+acceleration+at+equator)
Gravity is 9.81 m/
So I don't know how on earth anybody got the notion that a spinning earth would fling anybody off. Yes, our tangential speed is about 460 m/s. Yes, our centripetal acceleration is 0.03 m/s^2. Yes, gravity is over 300 times this amount. So you won't weigh much less in Ecuador than in Greenland.
I just want to mention that this math works only if the mass of the earth is indeed accurate.
There is no way to calculate the density of the earth.
We have only drilled about 12km deep, and the materials vary greatly throughout the earth. There is water, ice, clay, dirt, sand, rocks, trees, etc... there is no way to accurately calculate the density, therefore there is no way to accurately calculate the mass of the earth.
Why can't anyone proof how the G constant that newton came up with is actually accurate?
So your earlier comments on the centrifugal force were just a lie, right? I asked you for your numbers because I knew you were wrong. It is pretty clear you never worked out the math. Maybe I'm wrong - I'd still love to see you take a stab at this.
You can Google how the mass of the Earth was calculated and how G was derived. We know it is accurate because we can use these numbers to predict how objects will behave in orbit, etc.
When was the last time you went to the movies?
You might recall that Hollywood is pretty good at making motion pictures. They make the impossible possible.
NASA and their ridiculous budget can and do produce motion pictures. They actually aren't as good as Hollywood to be honest. Maybe they are just lazy half ass bastards and pocket most of the cash.
The accounts of the "Astronauts" are not very valid, just like actors in Hollywood, they are paid to sell you the scene.
You will never find a video that proves anything to you because you cannot bring yourself to doubt these government entities in the slightest.
You begin by doubting and questioning the status quo.
Until then, you will remain with kool aid stained lips.
Yep, they could do that. Why?? Give me a plausible reason. Oh, BTW, your reason has to cover every other governmental, commercial, and private entity that maintains this lie.
Basically, you have an unfounded, delusional belief and anyone that doesn't agree with you is a kool-aid drinking sheep. It's laughable. People knew the Earth was round for THOUSANDS of years before NASA was created. Further, neither NASA or the US were the first in space. There are people who can help with your paranoia.
QuoteIf you do, then I recommend you look into the centrifugal equation. Fc = mv^2/r
Well, the Round Earth radius is about 6,400 km everywhere, and circumference is about 40,000 km.
Vt= 40,000 km / 24 hr = 460 m/s
Ac = v^2/r = 460^2/(6.4e6) = 0.03 m/sec^2 (also available like this: https://www.google.com/search?q=centripetal+acceleration+at+equator)
Gravity is 9.81 m/
So I don't know how on earth anybody got the notion that a spinning earth would fling anybody off. Yes, our tangential speed is about 460 m/s. Yes, our centripetal acceleration is 0.03 m/s^2. Yes, gravity is over 300 times this amount. So you won't weigh much less in Ecuador than in Greenland.
These "peer reviews" are all within the same community. If they were deliberately fabricating fact and the intent was to implement a fake truth, you better believe that these "peers" would all be in on it.
Yep, they are all out to get us and implement a fake truth for reasons. Get some help.QuoteIf you do, then I recommend you look into the centrifugal equation. Fc = mv^2/r
Challenge taken - what numbers are you using?
Quote-Why does the water fall spinning in the other direction in the southern hemisphere?It doesn't, this is a myth.
Nonsense Suffragette, water spins in the opposite direction in the southern hemisphere, far from being a myth its a very well known fact!
Quote-Why does the water fall spinning in the other direction in the southern hemisphere?It doesn't, this is a myth.
Nonsense Suffragette, water spins in the opposite direction in the southern hemisphere, far from being a myth its a very well known fact!
Been looking for 5 months now. Still can't explain sunsets, the horizon, tides, and a host of other things. Just toss you into the pile of unhelpful FE believers who are riding the bandwagon rather to feel superior rather than thinking for themselves. You take care now.No evidence for any of your claims then? Just more random statements? I've run the equation for the centrifugal force of the Earth, and the equivalent acceleration is a fraction of that of the force of Gravity. Most of the rest of your 'argument' is just a logical fallacy.
As well the Earth doesn't 'spin perfectly' that's a strawman. Tides. Hopefully you can get to the correct location from there. You should know the model you're refuting pretty well to reject it after all.
The evidence is only valid if you reach the same conclusion. Only then will you believe it. You have to do the leg work. If I post a long post providing all the evidence all you are going to do is scheme over it and call BS because that is where your heart is right now. You are dead set on clinging to the globe and you will do anything to tenaciously hold on.
That is why i present my statements as a form of a question.
Look into it. Truth is stranger than fiction.
For the record later down they state "After all, we've already got decades of observational evidence telling us the Earth is a sphere – you know, just like Mars – so there's no need to build a dangerous (and potentially deadly) homemade rocket." Seems a case of either poor editing, or poor word choice by the author. Either way a single article doesn't exactly convey all scientists or even everyone at a facility, as I would think FE believers should know considering the number of models floating around.
https://www.sciencealert.com/the-flat-earth-society-responded-elon-musk-twitter-beautiful-mars-conspiracy
Ah scientists.
Apparently the Flat Earth Society on Twitter responded to Elon Musk's question of why there is no "Flat Mars Society" with the perfectly reasonable response that Mars has been observed to be round.
It's quite simple really. We observe a flat Earth and we observe a round Mars. It shouldn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out.
Maybe that's a good thing because apparently it was too complicated for the good folks at ScienceAlert (who I would assume are scientists, if not necessarily of the rocket variety) to understand. And guess why. They're subtly moving the goalposts in their response, a hallmark of scientists who have been pigeonholing inconsistencies in their flawed theories to make them appear to jibe with reality for centuries. Check it out:QuoteOf course what's so confusing about this perfectly amicable response is that it flies in the face of conventional flat-Earther logic, which suggests that scientific observations of Earth's spherical shape are flawed or faked.
Did you see what those shysters did there? The word I bolded is the clue. They seem to be under the impression that we reject all observation because we reject science. Long-time users of these forums will recognize that we reject science in favor of zeteticism, but that zeteticism itself is rooted in observation. We believe the Earth is flat because we observe the Earth is flat. We observe Mars is round. Again, not exactly rocket science.
Now I said that the good people at ScienceAlert seem to be under that impression because I think something more insidious is going on. They so clearly move the goalposts within mere sentences of each other that it's difficult to believe that it wasn't intentional, unless the writer of the article really does have the brains of dog poop.
They know what they are doing.
No evidence for any of your claims then? Just more random statements? I've run the equation for the centrifugal force of the Earth, and the equivalent acceleration is a fraction of that of the force of Gravity. Most of the rest of your 'argument' is just a logical fallacy.Proof or evidence of any of your claims? Preferably from any sort of non-biased source. No need to try and source the doctor one btw, I already know that ones hogwash.There are several explanations as to distances in the southern hemisphere, but for one thing, there isn't an accurate "map" of a flat earth without distortion. until we have one, there are bound to be discrepancies like this.
We have a map and it is extremely accurate. It matches all time/distance requirements. Why would you think the currents maps are wrong? If the Earth was flat, our current maps would not work. They do work precisely because the world isn't flat.QuoteAre you in antarctica?It's pretty far away. I don't think the edge is where most people think it is (I suspect there may be something "past" antarctica), but that's just a hunch on my part.
We have been all around Antarctica - there is nothing "past" it in the sense you are thinking.QuoteProbably the same reason that the earth has human life and the other planets don't. The earth is clearly different.
The Earth has life because of it's location in the habitable zone around the Sun. I the sun were warmer, Mars may have been the life-bearing planet. Earth is quite similar to the other rocky planets.
The more you learn about FEH, the more hard it is to believe it. (if you take the time to think about it)
Why do you people INSIST on using fake data? Like "habitable area from the sun" and "the maps are accurate because it is a globe"
Cant you see that the maps they give are indeed accurate for both flat and globe earth?
Also, there is very little "professional" science that has been invested into supporting a flat earth model.
So yeah.... Its all meant to deceive you, and the sheep keep citing NASA and FAKE science.
I don't try to convince people anymore, I just tell them to investigate for themselves if they truly are curious.
It is only fake because you disagree with the contents. If I posted stuff that could support FEH you would think I'm telling the truth. You can spare me the sheep garbage, too. I support peer-reviewed science. Not ancient theories that were cast away long ago. If you ever get really sick, don't go to a doctor. Figure out the cure for yourself. There is a very good reason we have experts.
News flash - the FE community has no map, so how, exactly, is it accurate??? You can't take the map of a globe and make it flat without introducing errors.
These "peer reviews" are all within the same community. If they were deliberately fabricating fact and the intent was to implement a fake truth, you better believe that these "peers" would all be in on it.
There are plenty of professionals outside of these mainstream "communities" that have proven the globe math and constants to be complete fabrications.
Did you know that the G constant established by newtown which is used to calculate anything from the mass of the earth to the acceleration of gravity is completely fabricated?
Why on earth are we still using 1600s math and theories?
Holy crap people are gullible and will buy anything that is on TV.
If the G constant is crap, then everything having to do with a globe earth and the theory of gravity goes out the window.
If we actually cannot calculate the mass of the earth, then the theory that a body attracts another body is complete crap.
This is the logic that the globe is based on. Thats how they explain the planets, and the orbits, yada yada yada..... ITS BS and people are too conditioned to question it.
It takes a very special type of individual to accept the truth.
BTW modern medicine is meant to keep you just healthy enough so that you have to go back to the doctor.
Cured people are not customers. Sick people are customers.
Keep drinking the Kool Aid.
What I DO know is that I can and have personally used equations based on the Newtonian/Einteinian model to check the locations of objects in the sky and found them accurate. Which is more than can be said for anything FE has put out, since FE has NO equations.
Hmm.. do know acknowledge that your beautiful globe spins at a 1,000mph at the equator, just like NASA tells you so?
If you do, then I recommend you look into the centrifugal equation. Fc = mv^2/r
Now, plug in the numbers, or use algebra to solve for other factors and tell me if the spinning of the earth still makes sense.
Let use this for reference:
The same force of gravity that hold the trillions of gallons in the oceans is the same force that allows a tiny blade of grass to prop up.
Is the force of gravity stronger than the centrifugal force?
Why is there land in the equator if all the water would be pulled towards the equator?
Have you ever wondered how the earth spins perfectly with no deviation although the center of mass cannot possibly be in the dead smack middle of the "Ball"?
Have you ever played Play station and had the controller rumble? Do you know why it rumbles??
think about this and then get back to me .
As well the Earth doesn't 'spin perfectly' that's a strawman. Tides. Hopefully you can get to the correct location from there. You should know the model you're refuting pretty well to reject it after all.
Proof or evidence of any of your claims? Preferably from any sort of non-biased source. No need to try and source the doctor one btw, I already know that ones hogwash.There are several explanations as to distances in the southern hemisphere, but for one thing, there isn't an accurate "map" of a flat earth without distortion. until we have one, there are bound to be discrepancies like this.
We have a map and it is extremely accurate. It matches all time/distance requirements. Why would you think the currents maps are wrong? If the Earth was flat, our current maps would not work. They do work precisely because the world isn't flat.QuoteAre you in antarctica?
We have been all around Antarctica - there is nothing "past" it in the sense you are thinking.QuoteProbably the same reason that the earth has human life and the other planets don't. The earth is clearly different.
The Earth has life because of it's location in the habitable zone around the Sun. I the sun were warmer, Mars may have been the life-bearing planet. Earth is quite similar to the other rocky planets.
The more you learn about FEH, the more hard it is to believe it. (if you take the time to think about it)
Why do you people INSIST on using fake data? Like "habitable area from the sun" and "the maps are accurate because it is a globe"
Cant you see that the maps they give are indeed accurate for both flat and globe earth?
Also, there is very little "professional" science that has been invested into supporting a flat earth model.
So yeah.... Its all meant to deceive you, and the sheep keep citing NASA and FAKE science.
I don't try to convince people anymore, I just tell them to investigate for themselves if they truly are curious.
It is only fake because you disagree with the contents. If I posted stuff that could support FEH you would think I'm telling the truth. You can spare me the sheep garbage, too. I support peer-reviewed science. Not ancient theories that were cast away long ago. If you ever get really sick, don't go to a doctor. Figure out the cure for yourself. There is a very good reason we have experts.
News flash - the FE community has no map, so how, exactly, is it accurate??? You can't take the map of a globe and make it flat without introducing errors.
These "peer reviews" are all within the same community. If they were deliberately fabricating fact and the intent was to implement a fake truth, you better believe that these "peers" would all be in on it.
There are plenty of professionals outside of these mainstream "communities" that have proven the globe math and constants to be complete fabrications.
Did you know that the G constant established by newtown which is used to calculate anything from the mass of the earth to the acceleration of gravity is completely fabricated?
Why on earth are we still using 1600s math and theories?
Holy crap people are gullible and will buy anything that is on TV.
If the G constant is crap, then everything having to do with a globe earth and the theory of gravity goes out the window.
If we actually cannot calculate the mass of the earth, then the theory that a body attracts another body is complete crap.
This is the logic that the globe is based on. Thats how they explain the planets, and the orbits, yada yada yada..... ITS BS and people are too conditioned to question it.
It takes a very special type of individual to accept the truth.
BTW modern medicine is meant to keep you just healthy enough so that you have to go back to the doctor.
Cured people are not customers. Sick people are customers.
Keep drinking the Kool Aid.
What I DO know is that I can and have personally used equations based on the Newtonian/Einteinian model to check the locations of objects in the sky and found them accurate. Which is more than can be said for anything FE has put out, since FE has NO equations.
I would say the video and photographic evidence, the accounts of the people who went there, and the fact that I haven't seen a single video 'debunking' space travel or the moon mission that doesn't make obvious errors somewhere during it that leaves the rest of their conclusions questionable. Plus the reasonable answers given to every issue I've seen brought up.Ok....It is literally nothing like that. If everything we see are more or less spherical bodies, what would make the Earth different? There are no other examples that we have seen of flat bodies in the universe. You're comparing man-made objects built for a purpose with something that occurred naturally. Seen any flat elephants?
The main issue with newbies to the FE model that want to believe FE basically need to realize that their mind has been wired to think in a Globe model only.
The programming is strong.
"Planets", "gravity", "stars", etc.. are all real, but they are NOT what mainstream science tells us they are.
Instead of asking how do you explain planet footage, assuming that if a planet is there it contradicts FE, you should ask, what really is a "planet?"
We may not know for sure since Flat earthers are mostly civilians that don't have very advanced equipment, but try to think outside the globe.
Just because a planet looks spherical it doesn't mean that it is a planet like earth would be a planet.
Its like saying: If a basket ball is a ball, then why is the court flat.
Who says that the "planets" we see are actually PLANETS, as in another "world", that you can theoretically land a ship on and walk around?
There are only a couple that actually look spherical, the rest are either too fuzzy or civilian equipment is not powerful enough.
You need to think outside of the worldwide programming. Question everything!
Well, we've been to the moon and have rovers on Mars. I questioned if it was possible, felt it was entirely within the realm of possibility, enjoyed seeing the results.
How are you so sure that we have been to the moon and that we have rovers in mars?
What makes you believe it beyond a shadow of a doubt??
What makes you SOOOOOOOO sure?
There are several explanations as to distances in the southern hemisphere, but for one thing, there isn't an accurate "map" of a flat earth without distortion. until we have one, there are bound to be discrepancies like this.
We have a map and it is extremely accurate. It matches all time/distance requirements. Why would you think the currents maps are wrong? If the Earth was flat, our current maps would not work. They do work precisely because the world isn't flat.QuoteAre you in antarctica?
We have been all around Antarctica - there is nothing "past" it in the sense you are thinking.QuoteProbably the same reason that the earth has human life and the other planets don't. The earth is clearly different.
The Earth has life because of it's location in the habitable zone around the Sun. I the sun were warmer, Mars may have been the life-bearing planet. Earth is quite similar to the other rocky planets.
The more you learn about FEH, the more hard it is to believe it. (if you take the time to think about it)
Why do you people INSIST on using fake data? Like "habitable area from the sun" and "the maps are accurate because it is a globe"
Cant you see that the maps they give are indeed accurate for both flat and globe earth?
Also, there is very little "professional" science that has been invested into supporting a flat earth model.
So yeah.... Its all meant to deceive you, and the sheep keep citing NASA and FAKE science.
I don't try to convince people anymore, I just tell them to investigate for themselves if they truly are curious.
It is only fake because you disagree with the contents. If I posted stuff that could support FEH you would think I'm telling the truth. You can spare me the sheep garbage, too. I support peer-reviewed science. Not ancient theories that were cast away long ago. If you ever get really sick, don't go to a doctor. Figure out the cure for yourself. There is a very good reason we have experts.
News flash - the FE community has no map, so how, exactly, is it accurate??? You can't take the map of a globe and make it flat without introducing errors.
Ok....It is literally nothing like that. If everything we see are more or less spherical bodies, what would make the Earth different? There are no other examples that we have seen of flat bodies in the universe. You're comparing man-made objects built for a purpose with something that occurred naturally. Seen any flat elephants?
The main issue with newbies to the FE model that want to believe FE basically need to realize that their mind has been wired to think in a Globe model only.
The programming is strong.
"Planets", "gravity", "stars", etc.. are all real, but they are NOT what mainstream science tells us they are.
Instead of asking how do you explain planet footage, assuming that if a planet is there it contradicts FE, you should ask, what really is a "planet?"
We may not know for sure since Flat earthers are mostly civilians that don't have very advanced equipment, but try to think outside the globe.
Just because a planet looks spherical it doesn't mean that it is a planet like earth would be a planet.
Its like saying: If a basket ball is a ball, then why is the court flat.
Who says that the "planets" we see are actually PLANETS, as in another "world", that you can theoretically land a ship on and walk around?
There are only a couple that actually look spherical, the rest are either too fuzzy or civilian equipment is not powerful enough.
You need to think outside of the worldwide programming. Question everything!
Well, we've been to the moon and have rovers on Mars. I questioned if it was possible, felt it was entirely within the realm of possibility, enjoyed seeing the results.
The real question is, how has there never ever, I mean never ever been even ONE photograph of a satellite or space junk? Simple it's all fake, an illusion for you to swallow.Sooo, are you asking for images taken of a sat from Earth? Because most of those will simply be the bright dots they are in the sky. With the exception of the ISS they can be hard to make out. Remember when looking at that image the ISS is about 3 times the size of any other large object up there, and has the benefit of being back-lit by the sun for this image.
Even popular science rag says oh yeah you can see em with the naked eye but not one satellite has never ever, I mean never ever photographed one.
People have their heads buried so deep in the sand, it's effected their reasoning power.
NEVER EVER......that's a long time !
"there are enough large satellites orbiting the Earth that you should be able to spot at least a few. All you have to do is look up."
https://www.popsci.com/space-junk-why-cant-we-see-satellites-in-images-earth
Or are you looking for images of other sats taken from something orbiting? Like this one of a pair of smaller sats taken from the ISS?
OMG I can't stop laughing squirrel. Those two silver thingys pasted on a CGI fake pic of the earth. he he
You should be banned for this, I may pee my pants. Hilarious !!!
Ok....It is literally nothing like that. If everything we see are more or less spherical bodies, what would make the Earth different? There are no other examples that we have seen of flat bodies in the universe. You're comparing man-made objects built for a purpose with something that occurred naturally. Seen any flat elephants?
The main issue with newbies to the FE model that want to believe FE basically need to realize that their mind has been wired to think in a Globe model only.
The programming is strong.
"Planets", "gravity", "stars", etc.. are all real, but they are NOT what mainstream science tells us they are.
Instead of asking how do you explain planet footage, assuming that if a planet is there it contradicts FE, you should ask, what really is a "planet?"
We may not know for sure since Flat earthers are mostly civilians that don't have very advanced equipment, but try to think outside the globe.
Just because a planet looks spherical it doesn't mean that it is a planet like earth would be a planet.
Its like saying: If a basket ball is a ball, then why is the court flat.
There are several explanations as to distances in the southern hemisphere, but for one thing, there isn't an accurate "map" of a flat earth without distortion. until we have one, there are bound to be discrepancies like this.
We have a map and it is extremely accurate. It matches all time/distance requirements. Why would you think the currents maps are wrong? If the Earth was flat, our current maps would not work. They do work precisely because the world isn't flat.QuoteAre you in antarctica?
We have been all around Antarctica - there is nothing "past" it in the sense you are thinking.QuoteProbably the same reason that the earth has human life and the other planets don't. The earth is clearly different.
The Earth has life because of it's location in the habitable zone around the Sun. I the sun were warmer, Mars may have been the life-bearing planet. Earth is quite similar to the other rocky planets.
The more you learn about FEH, the more hard it is to believe it. (if you take the time to think about it)
