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Title: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Tom Bishop on October 14, 2020, 12:21:12 AM
October Surprise - Information is coming out showing that Obama, Clinton and Biden executed Seal Team 6 and sent money to Iran to cover it up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCybWf1g9K8&ab_channel=TheNextNewsNetwork

Edit: Re-uploaded here: https://puresocial.tv/breaking-whistleblower-drops-hard-evidence-on-biden-obama-hillary-about-seal-team-6-audio-proof/
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Sean on October 14, 2020, 12:59:08 AM
I had a feeling they were up to something
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: JSS on October 14, 2020, 01:04:23 AM
Doesn't look like that is true.  The official military investigation of the attack found it to be random and unplanned.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/08/17/fact-check-biden-did-not-leak-seal-team-6-identities/3368869001/

Fact check: Biden did not leak the names of SEAL Team 6 members after Osama bin Laden's death

But Biden never leaked those names and an investigation found that the subsequent, deadly helicopter attack was not a pre-planned revenge attack targeting those servicemembers.

https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB370/docs/Document%2012.pdf

8. Findings. The findings of this investigation fall into three main areas.
a. Cause of the crash The CH-47D helicopter was shot down with an RPG fired by a
suspected Taliban fighter as the helicopter neared its landing zone. The decision to load the mE
onto one CH -47D in order to mitigate risk by minimizing aircraft exposure to ground fire and to
mass the assault force was tactically sound. The shoot down was not the result of a baited
ambush
, but rather the result of the enemy being at a heightened state of alert due to 3 Y2. hours of
ongoing coalition air operations concentrated over the northwestern portion of the Tangi Valley.


Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Roundy on October 14, 2020, 01:11:22 AM
This is the "October Surprise" Trump's been harping about, yet another discredited conspiracy theory?

That's a relief, I thought it might actually end up being something to be worried about.

Also I thought Dumbledore was dead.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: stack on October 14, 2020, 01:22:57 AM
What's the evidence? I can't really bear to sit through 30 minutes of this guy with greased back hair in an ill-fitting suit almost orgasm over every word that belches from his mouth. Can you at least summarize your October surprise?
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Roundy on October 14, 2020, 01:25:40 AM
There is no evidence presented. All they do is talk about how explosive the evidence is and how much of a bombshell it is.

So wake me up when we see some evidence.

"I can't even say some of the names... some of the biggest names in the Obama administration... Brennan, Clinton... Biden..."

Uh huh.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: stack on October 14, 2020, 02:13:44 AM
Oh my goodness. This is even better than when Tom, through amazingly diligent and thorough investigation, determined that RBG died a year ago and it was being hidden.

Seriously? I got through 20 minutes of this and it seems like a parody. Here's what mediabias has to say about 'The Next News Network':

"Overall, we rate Next News Network Extreme Right Biased and Questionable based on the routine publication of right-wing propaganda and conspiracy theories as well as several failed fact checks."
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/next-news-network/

That's just for starters, I'll break it down so no one has to waste their time:

The greased back dude interviews Anna Khait. I have no idea who she is but it's revealed she's a former 'Survivor' contestant and extremely god-fearing. Anna goes on for 20 minutes or so talking about the "audios" she's heard (Who says 'audios'?) that expose this entire (HRC, Brennan) covert operation about giving Iran 152 Billion dollars (that's with a B) to cover up the fact that the Bin Laden killed by Seal Team 6 was a double, not the real one, all as a 'trophy' so that Obama could get re-elected on the merit of that mission, 19 months before the next election. Oh yeah, then Seal Team 6 was ordered to be killed, or something like that.

Tom, is this the kind of world you revolve in? If so, it's pure insanity.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Tom Bishop on October 14, 2020, 02:46:16 AM
This is the "October Surprise" Trump's been harping about, yet another discredited conspiracy theory?

That's a relief, I thought it might actually end up being something to be worried about.

Also I thought Dumbledore was dead.

Really? How is it discredited when they state that they have the evidence and are releasing the evidence this week and have already distributed it to some? It sounds like you are pretty desperate for this to not be true.

You are discrediting only yourself by claiming that this has been discredited without even seeing the evidence.

Quote from: stack
"Overall, we rate Next News Network Extreme Right Biased and Questionable based on the routine publication of right-wing propaganda and conspiracy theories as well as several failed fact checks."
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/next-news-network/

You linked me to an amateur leftist website. It's not neutral.

https://www.justfactsdaily.com/media-bias-fact-check-incompetent-or-dishonest

(https://i.imgur.com/azwJW5j.png)

When Journalism was a Thing (https://books.google.com/books?id=obxiDwAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=Kitty,+Alexandra+(2018).+When+Journalism+was+a+Thing&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiDm_rdh7PsAhUHoHIEHd_pDXQQuwUwAHoECAEQBw#v=onepage&q&f=false)

(https://i.imgur.com/Fkqhwao.png)

https://www.wnd.com/2017/02/phony-baloney-the-9-fakest-fake-news-checkers/

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Phony baloney: The 9 fakest fake-news checkers

2. Media Bias Fact Check

MediaBIasFactCheck.com describes itself as "the most comprehensive media bias resource in the Internet." The site is owned by Dave Van Zandt from North Carolina, who offers no biographical information about himself aside from the following: "Dave has been freelancing for 25+ years for a variety of print and web mediums (sic), with a focus on media bias and the role of media in politics. Dave is a registered Non-Affiliated voter who values evidence based reporting" and, "Dave Van Zandt obtained a Communications Degree before pursuing a higher degree in the sciences. Dave currently works full time in the health care industry. Dave has spent more than 20 years as an arm chair researcher on media bias and its role in political influence."

WND was unable to locate a single article with Van Zandt's byline. Ironically, the "fact checker" fails to establish his own credibility by disclosing his qualifications and training in evaluating news sources.

Asked for information concerning his expertise in the field of journalism and evaluating news sources, Van Zandt told WND: "I am not a journalist and just a person who is interested in how media bias impacts politics. You will find zero claims of expertise on the website."

Concerning his purported "25+ years" of experience writing for print and web media, he said: "I am not sure why the 25+ years is still on the website. That was removed a year ago when I first started the website. All of the writing I did was small print news zines from the '90s. I felt that what I wrote in the '90s is not related to what I am doing today so I removed it. Again, I am not a journalist. I simply have a background in communications and more importantly science where I learned to value evidence over all else. Through this I also became interested in research of all kinds, especially media bias, which is difficult to measure and is subjective to a degree."

WND asked: Were your evaluations reviewed by any experts in the industry?

"I can't say they have," Van Zandt replied. "Though the right-of-center Atlantic Council is using our data for a project they are working on."

~

Van Zandt says he uses a "strict methodology" in determining which news sources are credible, but his website offers vague and typo-ridden explanations of his criteria, such as the following:

~

Bill Palmer of the website Daily News Bin accused Van Zandt of retaliating when the Daily News Bin contacted him about his rating. Palmer wrote:

"It turns out Van Zandt has a vindictive streak. After one hapless social media user tried to use his phony 'Media Bias Fact Check' site to dispute a thoroughly sourced article from this site, Daily News Bin, we made the mistake of contacting Van Zandt and asking him to take down his ridiculous 'rating' – which consisted of nothing more than hearsay such as 'has been accused of being satire.' Really? When? By whom? None of those facts seem to matter to the guy running this 'Media Bias Fact Check' scam.

But instead of acknowledging that he'd been caught in the act, Van Zandt retaliated against Daily News Bin by changing his rating to something more sinister."

Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: JSS on October 14, 2020, 02:54:45 AM
Really? How is it discredited when they state that they have evidence are releasing the evidence this week? It sounds like you are pretty desperate for this to not be true.

You have discredited yourself by claiming that this has been discredited without even seeing the evidence.

You sound pretty desperate for it to be true, posting about some evidence you haven't even heard yet.  How do you know they even have any?  Or that it's reliable?

It's been discredited because of the report I published that found that there was no planned attack.  That part is an outright fabrication.

Nobody can show Joe Biden revealed those names either.  When?  What speech?  Any video of it?  Nope.

And how about when they actually release evidence, THEN you can post about it.  Until then... it's just wishful thinking.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Lord Dave on October 14, 2020, 03:25:50 AM
Yeah.... Like... Why post a video stating, for a fact, that these things happened but then say evidence will be presented later?  How did they know these things happened if no evidence has been released yet?
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Roundy on October 14, 2020, 03:32:18 AM
All of a sudden there's this damning evidence that Trump's opponent was involved in a conspiracy (involving Obama himself, I think?) to murder the team responsible for Bin Laden's capture.

Stack hit the nail on the head when he said it looks like a parody. So far we have the word of Dumbledore and a former Survivor contestant to go by. My, how sensational. Thank God only those who have already drunk the Kool Aid would take something like this seriously.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Rama Set on October 14, 2020, 04:07:35 AM
So when people present claims without evidence, Tom calls them a liar.  I guess we know what Tom thinks of himself then.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: stack on October 14, 2020, 04:51:13 AM
https://www.wnd.com/2017/02/phony-baloney-the-9-fakest-fake-news-checkers/

Even better, you double down with citing WND.com

"Inside the spectacular fall of the granddaddy of right-wing conspiracy sites
In the feverish heyday of the “birther movement,” conspiracy-hungry readers swarmed to a website called WorldNetDaily for the latest on the specious yet viral theory that President Barack Obama was not born in the United States...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/inside-the-spectacular-fall-of-the-granddaddy-of-right-wing-conspiracy-sites/2019/04/02/6ac53122-3ba6-11e9-a06c-3ec8ed509d15_story.html

Nice, a 'birther' site. Is there no end to your dubious sources? How are you doing on your research about RBG dying a year ago?

I mean c'mon Tom, this is even a low point for you. A 30 minute video from a dubious hard right conspiracy site that provides zero evidence other than a former Survivor contestant repeatedly saying she heard 'audios'? Aren't you all about evidence?
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: stack on October 14, 2020, 05:16:34 AM
The CIA 'Whistleblower' that the Survivor contestant talked to is this guy:

"Alan Howell Parrot, the subject of a 2010 documentary about his falconry called Feathered Cocaine, has shot to new fame on the right after a video interview with him played over the weekend at the American Priority Conference, a pro-Trump event held at Trump’s Miami resort.

In the video, Parrot, interviewed by conservative personality Nick Noe and the father of a former Navy SEAL who died in Benghazi, makes a series of bizarre claims alleging collusion between Iran, former Vice President Joe Biden, and Hillary Clinton ahead of the attack."

(https://img.thedailybeast.com/image/upload/c_crop,d_placeholder_euli9k,h_1687,w_3000,x_0,y_100/dpr_1.5/c_limit,w_1044/fl_lossy,q_auto/v1602630345/GettyImages-98639691_tvlmfv)

The tweet Trump reposted linked to an article about Parrot’s claims on a little-known website called “DHJH Media,” written by blogger Kari Donovan, who describes herself as an “ex-Community Organizer” who writes about “cultural marxism.
While Trump apparently considers the new Benghazi conspiracy theory credible enough to retweet to his nearly 90 million followers, even Donovan is backing away from Parrot’s claims.

“I have no proof that the Whistleblower's claim (sic) are true,” Donovan tweeted on Tuesday, a few hours after Trump retweeted her story.”

I hope it all comes out. The Falconer guy says he has terabytes of incriminating evidence. I truly can't wait.

If this is the October surprise, wow, what a crash and burn. But I guess we'll just have to wait and see what's in those terabytes.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Roundy on October 14, 2020, 12:51:25 PM
The CIA 'Whistleblower' that the Survivor contestant talked to is this guy:

"Alan Howell Parrot, the subject of a 2010 documentary about his falconry called Feathered Cocaine, has shot to new fame on the right after a video interview with him played over the weekend at the American Priority Conference, a pro-Trump event held at Trump’s Miami resort.

In the video, Parrot, interviewed by conservative personality Nick Noe and the father of a former Navy SEAL who died in Benghazi, makes a series of bizarre claims alleging collusion between Iran, former Vice President Joe Biden, and Hillary Clinton ahead of the attack."

(https://img.thedailybeast.com/image/upload/c_crop,d_placeholder_euli9k,h_1687,w_3000,x_0,y_100/dpr_1.5/c_limit,w_1044/fl_lossy,q_auto/v1602630345/GettyImages-98639691_tvlmfv)

The tweet Trump reposted linked to an article about Parrot’s claims on a little-known website called “DHJH Media,” written by blogger Kari Donovan, who describes herself as an “ex-Community Organizer” who writes about “cultural marxism.
While Trump apparently considers the new Benghazi conspiracy theory credible enough to retweet to his nearly 90 million followers, even Donovan is backing away from Parrot’s claims.

“I have no proof that the Whistleblower's claim (sic) are true,” Donovan tweeted on Tuesday, a few hours after Trump retweeted her story.”

I hope it all comes out. The Falconer guy says he has terabytes of incriminating evidence. I truly can't wait.

If this is the October surprise, wow, what a crash and burn. But I guess we'll just have to wait and see what's in those terabytes.

Oh, he's a falconer. That's kind of perfect. What part of government was this "whistleblower" in, the Ministry of Magic?

I don't get it, they keep referring to him as a CIA whistleblower, but I'm not seeing anything in his background saying he was ever part of the CIA.  ???
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Lord Dave on October 14, 2020, 03:11:39 PM

I don't get it, they keep referring to him as a CIA whistleblower, but I'm not seeing anything in his background saying he was ever part of the CIA.  ???
Of course not.  Its called a secret. :P
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: JSS on October 14, 2020, 03:19:56 PM
And our Idiot in Chief has gotten in on this.

https://www.nbcnews.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-s-conspiracy-theorizing-reaches-unsettling-new-depths-n1243338

Is anyone surprised Trump is now tweeting about this garbage?  How long before he demands someone arrests Obama?

It will  end up like all his other 'investigations' he demanded like this one.

https://theweek.com/speedreads/943599/barrs-obamaera-unmasking-investigation-reportedly-ends-without-charges-public-report

Bash left the Justice Department last week after concluding his review and finding no substantive wrongdoing, The Washington Post reported Tuesday night, citing people familiar with the matter. "The findings ultimately turned over to Barr fell short of what Trump and others might have hoped, and the attorney general's office elected not to release them publicly."

Yup. Nothing. So they are just going to pretend that never happened, and not release the report detailing all the nothing they found.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Roundy on October 14, 2020, 05:03:29 PM
Thanks Tom for amusing us all with this nonsense!
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Tom Bishop on October 15, 2020, 02:42:32 AM
Wow, such desperation for this not to be true. Evidence is starting to be released now.

Anna Khait twitter - https://twitter.com/Annakhait

Obama Administration cut a deal to protect Osama Bin Laden until they decided otherwise. An audio phone call with Joe Biden's lawyer saying that Osama was being protected. NDA agreement signed by whistleblower. Whistleblower infiltrated middle east events under the guise of a falcon trainer. See video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWUs6bQlz98

Edit: Re-Uploaded here - https://puresocial.tv/whistleblower-damage-control-mode/
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: honk on October 15, 2020, 04:14:09 AM
The "evidence" just looks to be a couple of letters Parrot claims he sent to Biden's lawyer, along with a response supposedly from the lawyer that's mysteriously written on Parrot's letterhead. It's not really proof of anything.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Tom Bishop on October 15, 2020, 04:25:25 AM
The documents are supporting evidence for the played audio of Biden's lawyer stating that Osama was being protected by the US.

(https://i.imgur.com/XFAunQX.png)
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Lord Dave on October 15, 2020, 04:30:42 AM
The documents are supporting evidence for the played audio of Biden's layer stating that Osama was being protected by the US.

(https://i.ibb.co/WzZsjQR/Screenshot-20201014-211949.png)

Riiiiggghhhttt....

I thought there was Terabytes of data.  Or is this audio recording just that high quality and long?
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Tumeni on October 15, 2020, 07:32:46 AM
Anna Khait twitter - https://twitter.com/Annakhait

Oh, puh-leeze ... One hour ago, she tweeted

"There has never been a more corrupt administration than the Obama / Biden administration."


Shall we count how many of Trump's inner circle have been indicted or convicted, and compare to the absence of such in the Obama administration?

Shall we recount the number of current accusations against Trump of sexual assault or intimidation, and compare those to the absence of such against Obama?

Shall we compare the number of times Trump is implicated in child abuse in the Epstein case, with the absence of such for Obama?

How about comparing Obama and Trump's tax returns?

Did Obama ever go golfing at his own golf club, and bill the secret service to stay there, such that the taxpayer monies spent by the secret service went toward Obama's companies? No. But Trump has been doing that most every weekend.

Did Obama install sons and daughters in his administration? No.

etc

etc

Nothing is better to convince someone of the truth of the story than plastering "Bombshell Evidence!" over the title page of your video ... works every time. Not.


 
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: JSS on October 15, 2020, 01:07:25 PM
The documents are supporting evidence for the played audio of Biden's layer stating that Osama was being protected by the US.

(https://i.ibb.co/WzZsjQR/Screenshot-20201014-211949.png)

This is it? This is the evidence we have been waiting for? Stunning.

I also love how someone typing out a transcript is now "supporting documents".  Like typing something somehow adds credibility to it?  Maybe if they use a bigger font it will be even MORE credible.

So in your mind this is absolute, concrete unshakable proof that Bush and Obama and Biden and Hillary were all in on this vast conspiracy to protect Bin Laden so he wouldn't attack the US any more. Sounds legit.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: stack on October 15, 2020, 01:35:57 PM
Near as I can tell the terabytes of intel that the Survivor contestant has and the stack of evidence on the greasy haired guy's desk in the video amount to that transcript - Which means the following:

- Bush had a deal with Iran to hide Bin Laden with the promise that BL wouldn't attack America
- That deal carried over to the Obama administration
- Obama, HRC, Joe and Panetta, for 153 Billion dollars, had Iran move Bin Laden to Pakistan where O could order Seal Team 6 to kill BL at a time when the admin needed the political cache
- Iran double-crosses and swaps out BL for a doppleganger
- Obama admin orders Seal Team 6 to take out who they think is BL
- Seal Team 6 executes the mission but knows the dead BL in Pakistan is a double
- Obama admin now knows that Iran has grifted us and to cover it up, shoots down a transport helicopter in Afghanistan, killing all onboard, including Seal Team 6, so there are no leaks
- HRC orders the Benghazi attack because there's something there about the American missile used to take out the Seal Team 6 helicopter and that needs to be covered up too

Yeah, plausible. And the best part is that our President is retweeting this. I wonder who the desperate ones are.

Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Roundy on October 15, 2020, 02:57:32 PM
I wonder who the desperate ones are.

Republicans are shitting their pants. People like Tom so desperately want this to be true because they know they need something incredibly damning to come out of the woodwork in order to beat Biden at this point. There is no James Comey gifting the Republicans with a last minute announcement about an investigation into Trump's opponent this time, so out comes Dumbledore. It's a hail mary. It's a beautiful thing for us, really, because Trump has no credibility outside of his little circle of fans, and going on about something like this isn't going to help that anymore than any of the other things he's done to rile up his base this election season.

We are watching a fish flap around on the deck trying desperately to survive, and it's beautiful.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: JSS on October 15, 2020, 03:35:59 PM
I wonder who the desperate ones are.

Republicans are shitting their pants. People like Tom so desperately want this to be true because they know they need something incredibly damning to come out of the woodwork in order to beat Biden at this point. There is no James Comey gifting the Republicans with a last minute announcement about an investigation into Trump's opponent this time, so out comes Dumbledore. It's a hail mary. It's a beautiful thing for us, really, because Trump has no credibility outside of his little circle of fans, and going on about something like this isn't going to help that anymore than any of the other things he's done to rile up his base this election season.

We are watching a fish flap around on the deck trying desperately to survive, and it's beautiful.

The only ones that believe this are Trump supporters who already drank the Kool-Aid.

The same people who thought it was perfectly reasonable that Hillary ran a child-rape-murder-trafficking operation out of a non-existence basement of a pizza shop in NYC.

Everyone else recognizes it for what it is, and just thinks Trump is even dumber for falling for it.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Dr Van Nostrand on October 15, 2020, 03:54:27 PM
Yeah, this is Obama's birth certificate all over again. All he has is rumors of conspiracy and the power of Investigation.

Trump needs to launch an investigation to find any evidence of his amazing secret Health Care reform plan where everybody gets everything without paying for it.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: JSS on October 15, 2020, 04:12:31 PM
Yeah, this is Obama's birth certificate all over again. All he has is rumors of conspiracy and the power of Investigation.

Trump needs to launch an investigation to find any evidence of his amazing secret Health Care reform plan where everybody gets everything without paying for it.

I'm also still waiting for Trump to release all the surprising and amazing evidence that Magnum P.I. collected in Hawaii for him. ::)

How anyone can take Trump seriously is beyond me, how can they not see he just makes things up and lies?
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Tom Bishop on October 15, 2020, 07:12:48 PM
This is it? This is the evidence we have been waiting for? Stunning.

Pay attention.

(https://i.imgur.com/EmEB9eE.png)

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I also love how someone typing out a transcript is now "supporting documents".  Like typing something somehow adds credibility to it?  Maybe if they use a bigger font it will be even MORE credible.

The full audio was released, and was played in part on the last video.

Audio Pt. 1 - https://twitter.com/Annakhait/status/1316317833211473921
Audio Pt. 2 - https://twitter.com/Annakhait/status/1316319351759425537
Transcript - https://twitter.com/scienceismymuse/status/1316071065525911556


- Seal Team 6 executes the mission but knows the dead BL in Pakistan is a double

Makes sense, since the circulated picture of the dead Osama Bin Laden was a photoshop fake.

LINK: WARNING: GRAPHIC IMAGE OF DEAD PERSON (https://i.imgur.com/r8YnOks.jpg)
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: stack on October 15, 2020, 07:37:27 PM
This is it? This is the evidence we have been waiting for? Stunning.

Pay attention.

(https://i.imgur.com/q1BToXS.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/EmEB9eE.png)

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I also love how someone typing out a transcript is now "supporting documents".  Like typing something somehow adds credibility to it?  Maybe if they use a bigger font it will be even MORE credible.

The full audio was released, and was played in part on the last video.

Audio Pt. 1 - https://twitter.com/Annakhait/status/1316317833211473921
Audio Pt. 2 - https://twitter.com/Annakhait/status/1316319351759425537
Transcript - https://twitter.com/scienceismymuse/status/1316071065525911556

What Generals? Why Generals? I thought the Falconer was CIA? And what's the hold up? Does the Falconer have to get to Kinkos to make some copies of the terabytes of documents or something? I understand that that would be a time suck.


- Seal Team 6 executes the mission but knows the dead BL in Pakistan is a double

Makes sense, since the circulated picture of the dead Osama Bin Laden was a photoshop fake.

LINK: WARNING: GRAPHIC IMAGE OF DEAD PERSON (https://i.imgur.com/r8YnOks.jpg)

Yep, it's fake alright. That's because:

Ironically, the Photoshopped image — a composite of another photo of a bloodied corpse and one of bin Laden from 1998 — was initially published in April 2009 and has been circulating on conspiracy forums as proof that he had been killed.

You know, a faked photo from 2009. 2 Years before Seal Team 6 killed Bin Laden.

Are you really that desperate you want to jump right in and believe all this without even looking into any of it? We know one thing for sure from the Survivor contestant, God is in control.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: JSS on October 15, 2020, 07:41:30 PM
This is it? This is the evidence we have been waiting for? Stunning.

Pay attention.

Uh-huh.

Still not impressed, it's still just the same people claiming the same things.  More to come!  News at eleven!  Same level that the whole Pizzagate conspiracy was at before it fizzled out.

Come back when there is actual evidence, not just right wing nutjobs making up stuff.  They said this, they said that.  Falcon guy!

Same people that are falling for this fell for Pizzagate.  Desperate.

Look at how real conspiracies work, like the Iran-Contra affair.  When these 'generals' that confirmed  are testifying in the Senate, then come back and post about it.  Until then... this is nothing but a crazy guy talking crazy conspiracies.  God is in control, indeed.

I can tell you in advance how this will go, there will be steady dribbles of 'evidence' released every day until election day, and then it will suddenly be over.  It's nothing more than a desperate attack to smear Biden.  If they had actual evidence they would have released it.  This slow teasing just shows it's garbage.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Tom Bishop on October 15, 2020, 07:43:44 PM
Yep, it's fake alright. That's because:

Ironically, the Photoshopped image — a composite of another photo of a bloodied corpse and one of bin Laden from 1998 — was initially published in April 2009 and has been circulating on conspiracy forums as proof that he had been killed.

You know, a faked photo from 2009. 2 Years before Seal Team 6 killed Bin Laden.

Are you really that desperate you want to jump right in and believe all this without even looking into any of it? We know one thing for sure from the Survivor contestant, God is in control.

That image was shared by the media as the picture of dead Osama Bin Laden, which was fake. Which means we only have the word of the government that the DNA evidence matched, as claimed.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/may/02/osama-bin-laden-photo-fake?CMP=twt_fd

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Come back when there is actual evidence, not just right wing nutjobs making up stuff.  They said this, they said that.  Falcon guy!

I don't see how audio of Biden's lawyer and signatures of the whistleblower and the lawyer on an NDA forum are "making up stuff". Biden and the lawyer should come out and claim that it's faked if it's fake. There is some rather serious fakery going on here.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: JSS on October 15, 2020, 07:47:35 PM
Yep, it's fake alright. That's because:

Ironically, the Photoshopped image — a composite of another photo of a bloodied corpse and one of bin Laden from 1998 — was initially published in April 2009 and has been circulating on conspiracy forums as proof that he had been killed.

You know, a faked photo from 2009. 2 Years before Seal Team 6 killed Bin Laden.

Are you really that desperate you want to jump right in and believe all this without even looking into any of it? We know one thing for sure from the Survivor contestant, God is in control.

That image was shared by the media as the picture of dead Osama Bin Laden, which was fake. Which means we only have the word of the government that the DNA evidence matched, as claimed

(https://i.imgur.com/Qffn229.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/xiQS03b.png)

Did you miss the point where it was circulated in 2009?  What does that have to do with anything?  We can start posting all the fake stuff the right wing has put out if that would help.  Like... Pizzagate.  Why should we believe you when you got THAT so wrong?

Obama gets the credit for taking down Bin Laden.  You can hate him all you want but he gave the order.  If Trump had done it I'm sure you would believe every word the government said. But he didn't, it was Obama.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Tom Bishop on October 15, 2020, 08:12:55 PM
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Did you miss the point where it was circulated in 2009?  What does that have to do with anything?

The published photographic evidence of Obama's death was fake. I don't see that it matters that they copied it from somewhere else, purposefully or not. It's fake. The public has no photographic evidence.

Pointing out other claims is pretty invalid if you have not looked into whether those claims were true or not outside of your liberal-biased media websites calling them false.

The evidence for this one is coming out, and will be bad news for Team Obama.

(https://i.imgur.com/nuatAhH.png)
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Lord Dave on October 15, 2020, 08:17:48 PM
This is it? This is the evidence we have been waiting for? Stunning.

Pay attention.

(https://i.imgur.com/EmEB9eE.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/q1BToXS.png)

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I also love how someone typing out a transcript is now "supporting documents".  Like typing something somehow adds credibility to it?  Maybe if they use a bigger font it will be even MORE credible.

The full audio was released, and was played in part on the last video.

Audio Pt. 1 - https://twitter.com/Annakhait/status/1316317833211473921
Audio Pt. 2 - https://twitter.com/Annakhait/status/1316319351759425537
Transcript - https://twitter.com/scienceismymuse/status/1316071065525911556


- Seal Team 6 executes the mission but knows the dead BL in Pakistan is a double

Makes sense, since the circulated picture of the dead Osama Bin Laden was a photoshop fake.

LINK: WARNING: GRAPHIC IMAGE OF DEAD PERSON (https://i.imgur.com/r8YnOks.jpg)
You know... I looked up Congressman Curt Weldon and the voice on the audio does not sound like Weldon.  Sooo.....


Also, he hasn't been in office since 2007.  So his knowledge is a bit... limited, no?
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: stack on October 15, 2020, 08:29:15 PM
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Did you miss the point where it was circulated in 2009?  What does that have to do with anything?

The published photographic evidence of Obama's death was fake. I don't see that it matters that they copied it from somewhere else, purposefully or not. It's fake. The public has no photographic evidence.

What would be the value in the public having photographic evidence? You may want to consult the FAQ:

"In general, we at the Flat Earth Society do not lend much credibility to photographic evidence. It is too easily manipulated and altered."
https://wiki.tfes.org/Flat_Earth_-_Frequently_Asked_Questions

Pointing out other claims is pretty invalid if you have not looked into whether those claims were true or not outside of your liberal-biased media websites calling them false.

How about your conservative-biased media websites? How come Fox hasn't picked up the story after 48 hours? Seems like it should be the biggest story EVER!

The evidence for this one is coming out, and will be bad news for team Obama.

(https://i.imgur.com/nuatAhH.png)

Evidence is forthcoming based upon the fact that the Survivor contestant has been having a hard time eating lately?
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: JSS on October 15, 2020, 08:40:32 PM
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Did you miss the point where it was circulated in 2009?  What does that have to do with anything?

The published photographic evidence of Obama's death was fake. I don't see that it matters that they copied it from somewhere else, purposefully or not. It's fake. The public has no photographic evidence.

Uh, Osama, not Obama.  Projecting?  Trump is going to die long before Obama.  That grave is going to be so danced on they will need to install a disco ball.

Pointing out other claims is pretty invalid if you have not looked into whether those claims were true or not outside of your liberal-biased media websites calling them false.

So you think Pizzagate is true then?

The evidence for this one is coming out, and will be bad news for Team Obama.

(https://i.imgur.com/nuatAhH.png)

Yeah, lots of hot air, nothing of substance out of her.  So much outrage.  Gasp.

And bad news for Obama, just like how all that dirt Trump's PI in Hawaii dug up on him was bad news... wait... oh yeah a lot of nothing there too.  Just racist rantings from a bitter old man.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Shifter on October 15, 2020, 08:51:48 PM
Tom, how is anyone supposed to take you seriously on the Flat Earth when you post even more crazy loony conspiracy theories such as this?

Also, whatever crappy thing the dems may/may not be guilty of, nothing compares to what Trump has actually done and is actually doing - yet somehow he gets a free pass? Give me a break.....

This is why partisanship absolutely sucks. People lose their objectivity. And politics has become so polarized in recent years that people no longer care about rules, truth or fair play - whatever it takes to get your 'team' to win. Democracy be damned.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Rama Set on October 15, 2020, 09:55:11 PM
So hearsay about generals confirming another departments operative and audio of a former congressman who wasn’t In office when Bin Laden was killed? Is that the evidence?
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: JSS on October 16, 2020, 01:00:09 AM
And then we have this.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8841465/Navy-Seal-killed-bin-Laden-slams-Qanon-theory-Bidens-SEAL-Team-6-killed.html

Robert O'Neill, 44, appeared with Chris Cuomo on CNN on Wednesday night to voice his disgust that the 'highest-ranking person in the country' would be 'trampling on the graves of some of the best heroes' by claiming the team had not killed Bin Laden. 

O'Neill served in the Navy since 1995.

He was the person to shoot bin Laden three times in the head during a top-secret May 2011 raid on his hideout in Abbottabad, Pakistan.


O'Neill, who is vocal about his conservative leanings, blasted the president as Cuomo questioned him on how it felt to see the rumors circulating, stating that this was 'bigger than a retweet'.

'I want to say that every man is alive [who was on that mission],' he told Cuomo, pushing back against suggestions the team had made a mistake with bin Laden's DNA and that they hand flown the body of the double into the mountains to hide the mistake.

Anna Khait is absolutely sickened by all of this?  Well the real Navy Seal team is at least handling this with more dignity, after being accused of being part of a wacky right wing conspiracy.  She should be ashamed and sickened by her own behaviour.

Anyone pushing this conspiracy should be sickened by using the dead Seal team members and slandering the still living ones.

I can't wait to hear the right wing conspiracy answer to this.  Maybe Robert is a body double too?  A CGI simulation?  Part of the conspiracy!?!?!?!?
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Tom Bishop on October 16, 2020, 02:11:48 AM
And then we have this.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8841465/Navy-Seal-killed-bin-Laden-slams-Qanon-theory-Bidens-SEAL-Team-6-killed.html

That link doesn't seem to be convincing its readers. The top comments say:

(https://i.imgur.com/FDwFEgY.png)
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Rama Set on October 16, 2020, 02:17:05 AM
And then we have this.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8841465/Navy-Seal-killed-bin-Laden-slams-Qanon-theory-Bidens-SEAL-Team-6-killed.html

That link doesn't seem to be convincing its readers. The top comment says:

(https://i.imgur.com/3PdaXzl.png)

He isnt convincing the people in the comments?? Smoking gun fer shur, b.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: stack on October 16, 2020, 02:55:44 AM
And then we have this.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8841465/Navy-Seal-killed-bin-Laden-slams-Qanon-theory-Bidens-SEAL-Team-6-killed.html

That link doesn't seem to be convincing its readers. The top comments say:

(https://i.imgur.com/FDwFEgY.png)

Wait a sec. Now your appeal is to "top comments" on a story? Seriously? Integrity?
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Tom Bishop on October 16, 2020, 03:34:26 AM
Wait a sec. Now your appeal is to "top comments" on a story? Seriously? Integrity?

Sure.  I don't see your commentary here as any more credible as those comments. Those comments accurately pointed out that the person provided no evidence for that claim.

I dont know why you guys would link to a page full of people doubting the story and pointing out its flaws.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: stack on October 16, 2020, 03:36:48 AM
Wait a sec. Now your appeal is to "top comments" on a story? Seriously? Integrity?

Sure. They accurately pointed out that the person provided no evidence for that claim

Sure, the random anonymous 'commenters' pointed out that the "person", who is actually the guy who put 3 bullets in Bin Laden's head, didn't have any evidence for his claim...And the random anonymous 'commenters' evidence is??? And I'm supposed to believe the random anonymous 'commenters' who have no evidence that the decorated Seal Team 6 guy who shot and killed Bin Laden amid a very dangerous mission knows less than the random anonymous 'commenters'.

I think you may just want to lie down for a bit and think about this.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Tom Bishop on October 16, 2020, 03:38:00 AM
Wait a sec. Now your appeal is to "top comments" on a story? Seriously? Integrity?

Sure. They accurately pointed out that the person provided no evidence for that claim

Sure, the random anonymous 'commenters' pointed out that the "person", who is actually the guy who put 3 bullets in Bin Laden's head, didn't have any evidence for his claim...And the random anonymous 'commenters' evidence is??? And I'm supposed to believe the random anonymous 'commenters' who have no evidence that the decorated Seal Team 6 guy who shot and killed Bin Laden amid a very dangerous mission knows less than the random anonymous 'commenters'.

I think you may just want to lie down for a bit and think about this.

I just see an anymous internet comment here. I don't see why your comments are more credible than theirs.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: stack on October 16, 2020, 04:00:55 AM
Wait a sec. Now your appeal is to "top comments" on a story? Seriously? Integrity?

Sure. They accurately pointed out that the person provided no evidence for that claim

Sure, the random anonymous 'commenters' pointed out that the "person", who is actually the guy who put 3 bullets in Bin Laden's head, didn't have any evidence for his claim...And the random anonymous 'commenters' evidence is??? And I'm supposed to believe the random anonymous 'commenters' who have no evidence that the decorated Seal Team 6 guy who shot and killed Bin Laden amid a very dangerous mission knows less than the random anonymous 'commenters'.

I think you may just want to lie down for a bit and think about this.

I just see an anymous internet comment here. I don't see why your comments are more credible than theirs.

I agree. Mine aren't any more credible than yours or the random commenters. But I would say Robert O'Neill's are more credible than all of ours. That's the point. Capiche?
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Tom Bishop on October 16, 2020, 04:31:38 AM
I agree. Mine aren't any more credible than yours or the random commenters.

Then there shouldn't be a problem with anonymous comments appearing in a thread full of anynomyous comments.

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But I would say Robert O'Neill's are more credible than all of ours.

All anonymous commenters are discussing the credibity of the sources involved.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: stack on October 16, 2020, 04:48:39 AM
I agree. Mine aren't any more credible than yours or the random commenters.

Then there shouldn't be a problem with anonymous comments appearing in a thread full of anynomyous comments.

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But I would say Robert O'Neill's are more credible than all of ours.

All anonymous commenters are discussing the credibity of the sources involved.

Great, discuss away, have at it. Like I said, as far as 'credibility' I'll take the Seal Team 6 guy's word over yours, mine or the random commenters every day of the week. I don't see what your point is.

Btw, where's Fox News in all this? Crickets. No mention whatsoever of the biggest most treasonous story to ever emerge. Go figure.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Fortuna on October 16, 2020, 07:58:34 AM
The media cover the left is getting is becoming ridiculous. You're either willfully ignorant or just dumb if you don't see it.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: JSS on October 16, 2020, 12:37:49 PM
Who cares what random internet comments say.

The conspiracy theory says that the Seal team that performed the raid was murdered.

Here is the guy who actually pulled the trigger, saying they are all alive.  He is clearly alive.

This conspiracy theory is as dead as Bin Laden.  The team is alive, not murdered.  That puts a pretty big hole in the whole thing, doesn't it?
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Tom Bishop on October 16, 2020, 12:59:01 PM
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Who cares what random internet comments say.

You haven't convinced anyone why your anonymous internet comments are any better. At least those sources aren't known liberal trolls.

That puts a pretty big hole in the whole thing, doesn't it?

Why? The basis of the whistleblower claim is that the military was instructed to lie about it.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Rama Set on October 16, 2020, 01:02:14 PM
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Who cares what random internet comments say.

You haven't convinced anyone why your comments are any better.

Did you miss the part where he said his claims weren't any better but that it was the claims of the person on the team that mattered?

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That puts a pretty big hole in the whole thing, doesn't it?

Why? The basis of the whistleblower claim is that the military was instructed to lie about it.

The CIA operative that non-CIA officials "confirmed" the authenticity of to someone on Twitter who has no apparent credentials.  That whistleblower?  I am not saying it's impossible that this guy isn't legit, but there doesn't seem to be much reason to think this is more than a vanilla internet conspiracy story without substance.  If these generals publicly come forward to confirm the authenticity of the whistleblower, it would be much more convincing.  If the CIA confirmed it, that would be even more convincing.



Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: JSS on October 16, 2020, 01:08:10 PM
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Who cares what random internet comments say.

You haven't convinced anyone why your anonymous internet comments are any better. At least those sources aren't known liberal trolls.

That puts a pretty big hole in the whole thing, doesn't it?

Why? The basis of the whistleblower claim is that the military was instructed to lie about it.

You conveniently cut out the important part of my point.

The guy who was on the mission who was supposedly murdered, is alive and well and so are the rest of the team.

So... he was murdered but the military ordered him to lie about being dead?

LOL.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Tom Bishop on October 16, 2020, 01:32:53 PM
The basis of the claim is that the military was instructed to lie about it, so referencing a military tale that Osama Bin Laden was killed does not present a hole in the story.

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The CIA operative that non-CIA officials "confirmed" the authenticity of to someone on Twitter who has no apparent credentials.  That whistleblower?

The whistleblower's name is Allen Parrot, and you didn't do a good enough job of looking at his background. He is known to have worked with the CIA.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/feathered-cocaine_b_4392859

Parrot realized that his role as a supplier of falcons to royals in the Middle East was changing — that it was now more than just helping rich Arabs with a hobby, but a matter of helping Arabs network with terrorists.  Parrot was supplying falcons to hunting camps that ultimately led to military corruption, bribery, and a meet with Osama bin Laden.

"If you have billions and billions of dollars, people indulge themselves," ex-CIA agent Bob Baer says in the 2010 documentary, Feathered Cocaine. When the super rich come out to these falconry camps, "they live these bifurcated lives. They're enormously wealthy, and so they feel obligated to give out zakat (or gifts)," Baer says. "When they hold a majlis (meeting) out in the desert, with the Pakistanis, with the Generals, and hand out the money, and you've got a Pakistani leadership that wants to use Islam to unify the country, it's all done in one business meeting. Falcons, madrases, buying off Generals, funding the Afghan resistance." Baer concludes that princes and royal families in the Gulf routinely met with members of al Qaeda at falconry camps. "This has been seen on overhead, we know it exists. You show up and you say, here is $100 million in cash. Take the money. They're buying redemption, if you like. As a Catholic would. It's like going in and lighting a candle for them -- is giving this money. The entire 9/11 operation was not funded out of bin Laden's personal pocket. It was not funded by Taliban. It was funded out of the Gulf. Falconry camps are just a metaphor for the way business is done in the Middle East."

According to Feathered Cocaine, in the winter of 1999, the CIA encouraged a group of Afghans that were working for the CIA to try and reliably locate Osama bin Laden so that the U.S. could order an air strike on a falconry camp and kill bin Laden and any other high ranking associates. The Afghan agents received information that bin Laden was going to attend a falconry hunting camp in southern Kandahar that had been arranged by guests from the United Arab Emirates. The CIA ordered satellites above the falconry camp and images showed a large C-130. The camouflage pattern on the plane, and the tail number matched a plane that belonged to the United Arab Emirates. The host of that camp was Sheik Hamdan bin Zayid, the U.A.E. Minister of Foreign Affairs. But the recommendation for a strike was never approved after it was determined to be a "luxury hunting trip," by then National Security Adviser Richard Clarke and then DCI George Tenet. At the time, the U.A.E. was in negotiations with American companies to purchase 80 F-16 jets at a cost of $6.5 million per plane. Purely a coincidence, though.


There is a documentary about it. Parrot was one of the few people who had access to Osama Bin Laden.

https://youtu.be/O1IB32nLOuM
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Rama Set on October 16, 2020, 01:48:40 PM
The basis of the claim is that the military was instructed to lie about it, so referencing a military tale that Osama Bin Laden was killed does not present a hole in the story.

The claim that he was instructed to lie is specious and lacking any corroboration except by a CIA operative whose whistleblowing is apparently not being taken seriously by anyone because there doesn’t seem to be substance to it. When there is more substance to it, there will be something worth looking in to.

The fact that a member of the seal team is alive already pokes a massive hole in the story presented and you just want to ignore it.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: JSS on October 16, 2020, 01:56:38 PM
The basis of the claim is that the military was instructed to lie about it, so referencing a military tale that Osama Bin Laden was killed does not present a hole in the story.

You keep ignoring that a member of the Seal team that killed Bin Laden is NOT DEAD as the conspiracy theory claims.

Why won't you address this?  You not only keep avoiding commenting on it, but delete any reference to it whenever you reply.

How can this conspiracy theory be true if the Seal members that were supposedly murdered are still alive?
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Rama Set on October 16, 2020, 02:02:28 PM
It seems like Parrot did not have access to Bin Laden but knew a smuggler who did, T2. I see nothing that indicates how he would be aware of a high level plot to fake and cover up the death of Bin Laden. His contact in the CIA had trouble getting his letters delivered, why would he have knowledge of this higher level operation? As I’ve said before this is extremely unconvincing without corroborating evidence.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Tom Bishop on October 16, 2020, 02:16:31 PM
It seems like Parrot did not have access to Bin Laden but knew a smuggler who did, T2. I see nothing that indicates how he would be aware of a high level plot to fake and cover up the death of Bin Laden. His contact in the CIA had trouble getting his letters delivered, why would he have knowledge of this higher level operation? As I’ve said before this is extremely unconvincing without corroborating evidence.

The last minute of the video trailer I posted has statements  that Parrot had the ability to go in and sit with Osama Bin Laden at will and had met him five or six times. It's the premise of the documentary.

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You keep ignoring that a member of the Seal team that killed Bin Laden is NOT DEAD as the conspiracy theory claims.

Why won't you address this?  You not only keep avoiding commenting on it, but delete any reference to it whenever you reply.

Many members of the Seal Team 6 are dead, and that is well known. This individual was not discussed at all.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: JSS on October 16, 2020, 02:36:24 PM
It seems like Parrot did not have access to Bin Laden but knew a smuggler who did, T2. I see nothing that indicates how he would be aware of a high level plot to fake and cover up the death of Bin Laden. His contact in the CIA had trouble getting his letters delivered, why would he have knowledge of this higher level operation? As I’ve said before this is extremely unconvincing without corroborating evidence.

The last minute of the video trailer I posted has statements  that Parrot had the ability to go in and sit with Osama Bin Laden at will and had met him five or six times. So you are incorrect. It's the premise of the documentary.

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You keep ignoring that a member of the Seal team that killed Bin Laden is NOT DEAD as the conspiracy theory claims.

Why won't you address this?  You not only keep avoiding commenting on it, but delete any reference to it whenever you reply.

Many members of the Seal Team 6 are dead. This individual was not mentioned by Parrot at all

None of the members who were on the mission to kill Bin Laden are dead.  The guy who actually shot him is being very public in showing that he is alive and well.  He has confirmed they are ALL alive.

All you have is this wacko Parrot guy saying a bunch of unsubstantiated nonsense.  Parrot says this, Parrot says that.  I'm going to believe one of the US Navy Seal team members who was on the mission over some crazy falcon trainer from Saudi Arabia. 

Trump knows the truth, it's why when pressed yesterday at the town hall he refused to back up this story and just weakly said he was only re-tweeting.  He knows it's bull and all he can do is re-tweet and then deny he believes it.  You think if Trump had ANY proof he wouldn't be blasting it out on Fox News?  He has nothing more than you do, the rantings of a crazy falcon trainer claiming to be some kind of deep cover CIA plant nonsense.

It's PizzaGate all over again.  Right wing conspiracy theorists never learn.

(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/10/15/03/34410814-8841465-image-a-57_1602730625206.jpg)
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Tom Bishop on October 16, 2020, 02:51:26 PM
None of the members who were on the mission to kill Bin Laden are dead.  The guy who actually shot him is being very public in showing that he is alive and well.  He has confirmed they are ALL alive.

A lot of Seal Team 6 did die. It was the single largest loss of life in the history of the US Navy Seals. Parrot references Extortion 17 in the documents he provided.

Even the person who wrote the book on it expresses doubts with the official story.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_Sign_Extortion_17

The crash, said to have been caused by a Rocket-propelled grenade fired by Taliban forces in the Tangi Valley of Wardak Province, when the helicopter was at approximately 100–150 feet off the ground just before to landing, was the largest loss-of-life by U.S. in the Afghan War.[6] The Chinook was shot down in the early morning hours of August 6, 2011, at approximately 0239 AM local time, and was the largest single loss of American life in the history of the U.S. Navy SEALs.[7]

The book is written based largely upon a review of the official, non-classified military record of the crash, which was mysteriously leaked to several family members in October 2011, one month after the official military investigation was closed. Brown believes that the SEAL team may have been sacrificed, either through extreme gross negligence in the mission-planning or for other reasons, and has stated in interviews that the military is covering up key facts germane to the case, including the identities of seven Afghans who slipped on the helicopter without authority, and the true status of the helicopter's black box, which has been the subject of conflicting reports by the military.[8]
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Rama Set on October 16, 2020, 02:53:51 PM
It seems like Parrot did not have access to Bin Laden but knew a smuggler who did, T2. I see nothing that indicates how he would be aware of a high level plot to fake and cover up the death of Bin Laden. His contact in the CIA had trouble getting his letters delivered, why would he have knowledge of this higher level operation? As I’ve said before this is extremely unconvincing without corroborating evidence.

The last minute of the video trailer I posted has statements  that Parrot had the ability to go in and sit with Osama Bin Laden at will and had met him five or six times. It's the premise of the documentary.

Is it true that he could do that?  One person said he "bumped in to him" which doesn't imply access, another said they met 5 or 6 times, but doesn't indicate what the context was or his relationship was.  The last says "apparently he could meet him at will".  That sounds like an outsider assessment, maybe it's true, maybe it's an assumption.  Parrot didn't know Osama's location otherwise, they wouldn't need to go through the obtuse path to locating him that they did, by using the falcon tracker frequency provided by T2.  Granting all of this, which I am not doing, it still doesn't tell us how he would have any idea about the details of an Obama administration plot to kill and cover up Seal Team 6 and fake Osama's death.

Aaaaaand we still have a living member of Seal Team 6, who is also claiming the other members are alive, and who shot Bin Laden, which just flies in the face of the conspiracy.  You will need to disqualify his claims with something more than "that's just what someone who is conspiring would say".  If there is more evidence, as the twitter rando said, then this will be cleared up shortly.

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You keep ignoring that a member of the Seal team that killed Bin Laden is NOT DEAD as the conspiracy theory claims.

Why won't you address this?  You not only keep avoiding commenting on it, but delete any reference to it whenever you reply.

Many members of the Seal Team 6 are dead, and that is well known. This individual was not discussed at all.
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Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Rama Set on October 16, 2020, 03:05:16 PM
None of the members who were on the mission to kill Bin Laden are dead.  The guy who actually shot him is being very public in showing that he is alive and well.  He has confirmed they are ALL alive.

Incorrect. A lot of Seal Team 6 did die. It was the largest loss of life in the history of the US Navy Seals, so you dead wrong that no one died.

Even the person who wrote the book on it expresses doubts with the official story.

Was the entirety of seal team 6 on the mission to kill Osama Bin Laden?  Seal Team 6 is comprised of over 1,300 military personnel and 400 civilian personnel. There were approx. 24 Seals on the raid, and another 55 supporting along with 1 dog.  Have you bothered to check the overlap of Seals on the raid and in the Chinook that was shot down 3 months later?  Indeed, the Seals in the Chinook were from a completely different squadron in Seal Team 6.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: JSS on October 16, 2020, 03:10:41 PM
None of the members who were on the mission to kill Bin Laden are dead.  The guy who actually shot him is being very public in showing that he is alive and well.  He has confirmed they are ALL alive.

A lot of Seal Team 6 did die. It was the single largest loss of life in the history of the US Navy Seals. Parrot references Extortion 17 in the documents he provided.

And you are again avoiding the fact that none of the people on the Bin Laden raid died in that attack. 

You have no proof or evidence that anyone on the Bin Laden raid was on that helicopter.  And evidence DIRECT from one of the people on it that they were NOT.

All you have is some falcon trainer guy claiming a bunch of stuff, and the ACTUAL PEOPLE he is saying are dead alive and well and posting and doing interviews.

To sum up, again: None of the Seal team that was on the Bin Laden raid died. They are all still alive. This conspiracy is based on LIES.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Tom Bishop on October 16, 2020, 03:15:54 PM
None of the members who were on the mission to kill Bin Laden are dead.  The guy who actually shot him is being very public in showing that he is alive and well.  He has confirmed they are ALL alive.

A lot of Seal Team 6 did die. It was the single largest loss of life in the history of the US Navy Seals. Parrot references Extortion 17 in the documents he provided.

And you are again avoiding the fact that none of the people on the Bin Laden raid died in that attack. 

You have no proof or evidence that anyone on the Bin Laden raid was on that helicopter.  And evidence DIRECT from one of the people on it that they were NOT.

Dead wrong.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Afghanistan_Boeing_Chinook_shootdown

For years after the downing of Extortion 17, there were many theories about a possible government cover-up. The official statement from US Central Command states that a Taliban fighter scored a lucky shot with a rocket propelled grenade on the CH-47 Chinook helicopter. It was reported that the Taliban fighters had no information of the helicopter's flight path and that they had been in the right place at the right time. A Department of Defense official asserted that there were no leaks from the Afghans.[citation needed] Doubts about this story were raised by families and other concerned citizens despite the fact that the US Navy SEAL team aboard Extortion 17 had been a different platoon than had carried out the raid that killed Osama bin Laden three months earlier. The theories suggest that there had been leaked information from Afghan forces to the Taliban about the mission, allowing the Taliban to plan and carry out the strike against Extortion 17.[21]
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: JSS on October 16, 2020, 03:21:35 PM
None of the members who were on the mission to kill Bin Laden are dead.  The guy who actually shot him is being very public in showing that he is alive and well.  He has confirmed they are ALL alive.

A lot of Seal Team 6 did die. It was the single largest loss of life in the history of the US Navy Seals. Parrot references Extortion 17 in the documents he provided.

And you are again avoiding the fact that none of the people on the Bin Laden raid died in that attack. 

You have no proof or evidence that anyone on the Bin Laden raid was on that helicopter.  And evidence DIRECT from one of the people on it that they were NOT.

Dead wrong.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Afghanistan_Boeing_Chinook_shootdown

For years after the downing of Extortion 17, there were many theories about a possible government cover-up. The official statement from US Central Command states that a Taliban fighter scored a lucky shot with a rocket propelled grenade on the CH-47 Chinook helicopter. It was reported that the Taliban fighters had no information of the helicopter's flight path and that they had been in the right place at the right time. A Department of Defense official asserted that there were no leaks from the Afghans.[citation needed] Doubts about this story were raised by families and other concerned citizens despite the fact that the US Navy SEAL team aboard Extortion 17 had been a different platoon than had carried out the raid that killed Osama bin Laden three months earlier. The theories suggest that there had been leaked information from Afghan forces to the Taliban about the mission, allowing the Taliban to plan and carry out the strike against Extortion 17.[21]

That backs up what I was saying. 

The Seal team on that helicopter were NOT the same team members that killed Bin Laden.  They are still alive.  That is the official word.  It's right there in your quote.  So your conspiracy theory has a massive hole blown in it, from your own source.

despite the fact that the US Navy SEAL team aboard Extortion 17 had been a different platoon than had carried out the raid that killed Osama bin Laden
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Tom Bishop on October 16, 2020, 03:27:35 PM
No. This has nothing to do with this or that platoon name. The government cover-up claims about the Osama Seals were made despite the platoon name. History.com says that the members on board Extraction 17 were part of the Gold Squadron of DEVGRU that did the Osama raid.

https://www.history.com/news/the-costliest-day-in-seal-team-six-history

The Costliest Day in SEAL Team Six History

"On August 6, 2011, insurgents shot down a Chinook transport helicopter in Afghanistan, killing all 38 people on board, including 15 Navy SEALS from Team Six’s Gold Squadron.

~


Of the 30 Americans killed, 22 were Navy personnel, and 17 were SEALs. These included two bomb specialists and 15 operators in the Gold Squadron of DEVGRU, or Team Six, the highly classified unit that conducted the raid that killed Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden at his compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan the previous May."
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: JSS on October 16, 2020, 03:41:00 PM
No. This has nothing to do with this or that platoon. The conspiracy about the Osama Seals were made despite the platoon name. History.com says that the members on board Extraction 17 were part of the DEVGRU that did the Osama raid.

https://www.history.com/news/the-costliest-day-in-seal-team-six-history

The Costliest Day in SEAL Team Six History

"On August 6, 2011, insurgents shot down a Chinook transport helicopter in Afghanistan, killing all 38 people on board, including 15 Navy SEALS from Team Six’s Gold Squadron.

~


Of the 30 Americans killed, 22 were Navy personnel, and 17 were SEALs. These included two bomb specialists and 15 operators in the Gold Squadron of DEVGRU, or Team Six, the highly classified unit that conducted the raid that killed Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden at his compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan the previous May."

It's been pointed out to you before that the Seal teams are quite large.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEAL_Team_Six

According to the GAO report on special operations forces, in the fiscal year of 2014, DEVGRU had a total of 1,787 authorized positions, of which 1,342 are military and 445 are civilian

The Seal members on board the downed helicopter were NOT THE SAME people that were on the Bin Laden raid.  This is confirmed by one of the still living members, and he has confirmed the rest are alive too.

They are all still alive. What is dead is this conspiracy theory. How could Obama/Hillary/Biden/Bush have murdered them if they are not dead?
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Rama Set on October 16, 2020, 03:43:28 PM
No. This has nothing to do with this or that platoon name. The government cover-up claims about the Osama Seals were made despite the platoon name. History.com says that the members on board Extraction 17 were part of the DEVGRU that did the Osama raid.

https://www.history.com/news/the-costliest-day-in-seal-team-six-history

The Costliest Day in SEAL Team Six History

"On August 6, 2011, insurgents shot down a Chinook transport helicopter in Afghanistan, killing all 38 people on board, including 15 Navy SEALS from Team Six’s Gold Squadron.

~


Of the 30 Americans killed, 22 were Navy personnel, and 17 were SEALs. These included two bomb specialists and 15 operators in the Gold Squadron of DEVGRU, or Team Six, the highly classified unit that conducted the raid that killed Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden at his compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan the previous May."

There are several squadrons that comprise DEVGRU. They are delineated by colours. Red Squadron carrier out Operation Neptune Spear, not Gold Squadron.  There is no evidence a member of Operation Neptune Spear was killed in that crash.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Lord Dave on October 16, 2020, 03:56:46 PM
It seems like Parrot did not have access to Bin Laden but knew a smuggler who did, T2. I see nothing that indicates how he would be aware of a high level plot to fake and cover up the death of Bin Laden. His contact in the CIA had trouble getting his letters delivered, why would he have knowledge of this higher level operation? As I’ve said before this is extremely unconvincing without corroborating evidence.

The last minute of the video trailer I posted has statements  that Parrot had the ability to go in and sit with Osama Bin Laden at will and had met him five or six times. It's the premise of the documentary.

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You keep ignoring that a member of the Seal team that killed Bin Laden is NOT DEAD as the conspiracy theory claims.

Why won't you address this?  You not only keep avoiding commenting on it, but delete any reference to it whenever you reply.

Many members of the Seal Team 6 are dead, and that is well known. This individual was not discussed at all.

So what you're saying is that this person could have blown this conspiracy wide open at any point in the last... 15 years?  But chose the month before the election to do so?
How curious.  At best that makes him a coward.  At worse: a traitor.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Tom Bishop on October 16, 2020, 04:09:07 PM
No. This has nothing to do with this or that platoon name. The government cover-up claims about the Osama Seals were made despite the platoon name. History.com says that the members on board Extraction 17 were part of the DEVGRU that did the Osama raid.

https://www.history.com/news/the-costliest-day-in-seal-team-six-history

The Costliest Day in SEAL Team Six History

"On August 6, 2011, insurgents shot down a Chinook transport helicopter in Afghanistan, killing all 38 people on board, including 15 Navy SEALS from Team Six’s Gold Squadron.

~


Of the 30 Americans killed, 22 were Navy personnel, and 17 were SEALs. These included two bomb specialists and 15 operators in the Gold Squadron of DEVGRU, or Team Six, the highly classified unit that conducted the raid that killed Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden at his compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan the previous May."

There are several squadrons that comprise DEVGRU. They are delineated by colours. Red Squadron carrier out Operation Neptune Spear, not Gold Squadron.  There is no evidence a member of Operation Neptune Spear was killed in that crash.

The government doesn't list out names of Seal Team Six members, so you wouldn't know that no one involved with Osama was killed in the crash.

The fact is that the Gold Squadron of DEVGRU of Seal Team Six are credited as the team that conducted the Bin Laden Raid.

Members of that team were on Extortion 17

Therefore it is false to say that no members of the team that conducted the Osama raid died.

'Operation Neptune Spear' refers to an operation name, not a team name.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: JSS on October 16, 2020, 04:19:44 PM
No. This has nothing to do with this or that platoon name. The government cover-up claims about the Osama Seals were made despite the platoon name. History.com says that the members on board Extraction 17 were part of the DEVGRU that did the Osama raid.

https://www.history.com/news/the-costliest-day-in-seal-team-six-history

The Costliest Day in SEAL Team Six History

"On August 6, 2011, insurgents shot down a Chinook transport helicopter in Afghanistan, killing all 38 people on board, including 15 Navy SEALS from Team Six’s Gold Squadron.

~


Of the 30 Americans killed, 22 were Navy personnel, and 17 were SEALs. These included two bomb specialists and 15 operators in the Gold Squadron of DEVGRU, or Team Six, the highly classified unit that conducted the raid that killed Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden at his compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan the previous May."

There are several squadrons that comprise DEVGRU. They are delineated by colours. Red Squadron carrier out Operation Neptune Spear, not Gold Squadron.  There is no evidence a member of Operation Neptune Spear was killed in that crash.

The government doesn't list out names of Seal Team Six members, so you wouldn't know that no one involved with Osama was killed in the crash.

The fact is that the Gold Squadron of DEVGRU of Seal Team Six are credited as the team that conducted the Bin Laden Raid.

Members of that team were on Extortion 17

Therefore it is false to say that no members of the team that conducted the Osama raid died.

'Operation Neptune Spear' refers to an operation name, not a team name.

No, Gold Squadron are not credited, Red Squadron is.  It is false to say they are dead when they were not even the same squadron and members of the team are still alive and talking.

You are seriously desperate for this to be true. Where is your source that it was Gold Squadron?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Osama_bin_Laden

McRaven hand-picked a team drawing from the most experienced and senior operators from Red Squadron, one of four that make up DEVGRU. Red Squadron was coming home from Afghanistan and could be redirected without attracting attention. The team had language skills and experience with cross-border operations into Pakistan. Almost all the Red Squadron operators had ten or more deployments to Afghanistan.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Tom Bishop on October 16, 2020, 04:37:34 PM
No. This has nothing to do with this or that platoon name. The government cover-up claims about the Osama Seals were made despite the platoon name. History.com says that the members on board Extraction 17 were part of the DEVGRU that did the Osama raid.

https://www.history.com/news/the-costliest-day-in-seal-team-six-history

The Costliest Day in SEAL Team Six History

"On August 6, 2011, insurgents shot down a Chinook transport helicopter in Afghanistan, killing all 38 people on board, including 15 Navy SEALS from Team Six’s Gold Squadron.

~


Of the 30 Americans killed, 22 were Navy personnel, and 17 were SEALs. These included two bomb specialists and 15 operators in the Gold Squadron of DEVGRU, or Team Six, the highly classified unit that conducted the raid that killed Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden at his compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan the previous May."

There are several squadrons that comprise DEVGRU. They are delineated by colours. Red Squadron carrier out Operation Neptune Spear, not Gold Squadron.  There is no evidence a member of Operation Neptune Spear was killed in that crash.

The government doesn't list out names of Seal Team Six members, so you wouldn't know that no one involved with Osama was killed in the crash.

The fact is that the Gold Squadron of DEVGRU of Seal Team Six are credited as the team that conducted the Bin Laden Raid.

Members of that team were on Extortion 17

Therefore it is false to say that no members of the team that conducted the Osama raid died.

'Operation Neptune Spear' refers to an operation name, not a team name.

No, Gold Squadron are not credited, Red Squadron is.  It is false to say they are dead when they were not even the same squadron and members of the team are still alive and talking.

You are seriously desperate for this to be true. Where is your source that it was Gold Squadron?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Osama_bin_Laden

McRaven hand-picked a team drawing from the most experienced and senior operators from Red Squadron, one of four that make up DEVGRU. Red Squadron was coming home from Afghanistan and could be redirected without attracting attention. The team had language skills and experience with cross-border operations into Pakistan. Almost all the Red Squadron operators had ten or more deployments to Afghanistan.

Your quote just says that they hand picked some team members from the Red Squadron. Why would they need to hand pick members from Red Squadron to participate if it was Red Squadron that did it?

The whole operation likely involved multiple teams on some way, not just one, hence selecting from Red Team.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Lord Dave on October 16, 2020, 04:46:41 PM
No. This has nothing to do with this or that platoon name. The government cover-up claims about the Osama Seals were made despite the platoon name. History.com says that the members on board Extraction 17 were part of the DEVGRU that did the Osama raid.

https://www.history.com/news/the-costliest-day-in-seal-team-six-history

The Costliest Day in SEAL Team Six History

"On August 6, 2011, insurgents shot down a Chinook transport helicopter in Afghanistan, killing all 38 people on board, including 15 Navy SEALS from Team Six’s Gold Squadron.

~


Of the 30 Americans killed, 22 were Navy personnel, and 17 were SEALs. These included two bomb specialists and 15 operators in the Gold Squadron of DEVGRU, or Team Six, the highly classified unit that conducted the raid that killed Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden at his compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan the previous May."

There are several squadrons that comprise DEVGRU. They are delineated by colours. Red Squadron carrier out Operation Neptune Spear, not Gold Squadron.  There is no evidence a member of Operation Neptune Spear was killed in that crash.

The government doesn't list out names of Seal Team Six members, so you wouldn't know that no one involved with Osama was killed in the crash.

The fact is that the Gold Squadron of DEVGRU of Seal Team Six are credited as the team that conducted the Bin Laden Raid.

Members of that team were on Extortion 17

Therefore it is false to say that no members of the team that conducted the Osama raid died.

'Operation Neptune Spear' refers to an operation name, not a team name.

No, Gold Squadron are not credited, Red Squadron is.  It is false to say they are dead when they were not even the same squadron and members of the team are still alive and talking.

You are seriously desperate for this to be true. Where is your source that it was Gold Squadron?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Osama_bin_Laden

McRaven hand-picked a team drawing from the most experienced and senior operators from Red Squadron, one of four that make up DEVGRU. Red Squadron was coming home from Afghanistan and could be redirected without attracting attention. The team had language skills and experience with cross-border operations into Pakistan. Almost all the Red Squadron operators had ten or more deployments to Afghanistan.

Your quote just says that they hand picked some team members from the Red Squadron. Why would they need to hand pick members from Red Squadron to participate if it was Red Squadron that did it?

The whole operation likely involved multiple teams on some way, not just one, hence selecting from Red Team.

Or or...
Hear me out.
They didn't want a whole squad on the mission.  How many are in a squad?
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Rama Set on October 16, 2020, 04:48:44 PM
Because Red Squadron is larger than the team that carried out the operation, so you would necessarily have to pick who from that Squadron would be involved. It was an important operation, obviously, so you would want to hand pick them. Gold Squadron is not indicated in the operation so you saying it’s likely that more than one squadron was involved is baseless speculation. 
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Rama Set on October 16, 2020, 04:51:31 PM
Or or...
Hear me out.
They didn't want a whole squad on the mission.  How many are in a squad?

There are 7 squadrons and ~1600 military personnel in Seal Team 6. So 200-ish per squadron and 79 took part in Operation Neptune Spear.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: JSS on October 16, 2020, 04:51:50 PM
No, Gold Squadron are not credited, Red Squadron is.  It is false to say they are dead when they were not even the same squadron and members of the team are still alive and talking.

You are seriously desperate for this to be true. Where is your source that it was Gold Squadron?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Osama_bin_Laden

McRaven hand-picked a team drawing from the most experienced and senior operators from Red Squadron, one of four that make up DEVGRU. Red Squadron was coming home from Afghanistan and could be redirected without attracting attention. The team had language skills and experience with cross-border operations into Pakistan. Almost all the Red Squadron operators had ten or more deployments to Afghanistan.

Your quote just says that they hand picked some team members from the Red Squadron. Why would they need to hand pick members from Red Squadron to participate if it was Red Squadron that did it?

The whole operation likely involved multiple teams on some way, not just one, hence selecting from Red Team.

Why would they need to pick 15 members instead of taking one or two hundred team members?  Are you serious?  How else do you expect them to pick members of a dangerous and vital mission, randomly?

You have zero evidence other teams (such as Gold) were involved.  Red is not Gold.

All the documentation states it was Red team that killed Bin Laden.  Gold team was on the helicopter that was shut down.

Different teams.

Plus one of those team members is alive and talking and saying they know personally that the rest of the team is still alive.

This conspiracy theory is founded on lies.  Just like PizzaGate, and will go down in history as another crazy, desperate attempt to smear democrats by the far-right.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Tom Bishop on October 16, 2020, 05:25:21 PM
Why would they need to pick 15 members instead of taking one or two hundred team members?  Are you serious?  How else do you expect them to pick members of a dangerous and vital mission, randomly?

You don't know how the teams were involved in this, or any of the names involved. Don't pretend that you do.

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Plus one of those team members is alive and talking and saying they know personally that the rest of the team is still alive.

There are a number of article stating that he lied about Osama.

https://www.ibtimes.com/bin-laden-shooter-robert-oneill-misstated-facts-falsely-took-sole-credit-report-1721137

Bin Laden Shooter Robert O’Neill Misstated Facts, Falsely Took Sole Credit: Report

Former special-operations officials accused Robert O’Neill, the one-time U.S. Navy SEAL who claimed to have shot dead Osama bin Laden, of misstating facts, and they criticized him for taking sole credit in the killing of the world’s then-most wanted man, the Daily Beast reported. The accusations came as O’Neill’s claim contradicted the description of the operation in a book by Matt Bissonnette, an ex-member of SEAL Team Six who took part in the raid against bin Laden.

While O’Neill claimed he fired two shots at bin Laden’s head at the al Qaeda leader’s compound in Pakistan’s Abbottabad, the SEAL’s former colleagues -- one of whom was within feet of O’Neill during the operation -- denied his claim. They said it was a still-unidentified man who fired the shot that killed bin Laden, who founded the group responsible for the terrorist attacks on America on Sept. 11, 2001, the Daily Beast reported.

One of the former special-ops officials also said O’Neill did not identify himself as the shooter at the “hot wash” debriefing after the attack conducted by senior officials. O’Neill later claimed to be bin Laden’s shooter to members of the public while drinking at some bars frequented by SEALs in Virginia Beach, Va., after he returned from his tour of duty. O’Neill’s claim led to his superiors to counsel him over discussing a classified operation, the Daily Beast reported.

O’Neill said in at least two separate interviews -- one published by the Washington Post Thursday and another published by Esquire in 2013 -- that the operation’s “point man” fired at bin Laden when the al Qaeda leader peeked through his bedroom door, but missed. O’Neill said he then fired, killing bin Laden. After the appearance of the Esquire article, Peter Bergen, a chronicler of bin Laden who was able to tour his compound after the raid, interviewed an unidentified SEAL Team Six member who said the account was “complete BS,” the Daily Beast reported.


Two sources stating that this person is giving false statements.

Another article: https://www.reuters.com/article/binladen-seals/who-shot-bin-laden-former-u-s-navy-seals-make-rival-claims-idINKBN0IQ2RE20141106

The Washington Post published a story on Thursday quoting Rob O’Neill, a former SEAL, as claiming to have fired the fatal shot that hit bin Laden in the forehead after O’Neill stormed into a room in bin Laden’s house in Abbottabad.

The claim by O’Neill, who travels the country giving motivational speeches, was countered by a source close to another SEAL team member.

The source, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the team member told him the fatal shot was fired by one of two other men who entered the room before O’Neill.

The Post said O’Neill acknowledged shots were fired at bin Laden by at least two other Seal team members, including Matt Bissonnette, a former Seal who wrote a 2012 book about the raid entitled “No Easy Day.”

The book did not identify the person who shot bin Laden.

NBC News quoted Bissonnette on Thursday as saying: “Two different people telling two different stories for two different reasons ... Whatever he (O’Neill) says, he says. I don’t want to touch that.”

Last year, after Esquire Magazine published an interview with an anonymous SEAL member, now widely reported to have been O’Neill, who claimed to have shot bin Laden, other media outlets questioned the account.



So we have sources stating that this guy Robert O’Neill did not make the kill shot, entered the room later, and is full of lies. Therefore he wouldn't be credible enough to say whether it was a body double or not.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Lord Dave on October 16, 2020, 05:27:35 PM
Why would they need to pick 15 members instead of taking one or two hundred team members?  Are you serious?  How else do you expect them to pick members of a dangerous and vital mission, randomly?

You don't know how the teams involved in this consisted, or any of the names involved. Don't pretend that you do.

But somehow you do.  Otherwise you couldn't claim they were all killed
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: JSS on October 16, 2020, 05:30:30 PM
Why would they need to pick 15 members instead of taking one or two hundred team members?  Are you serious?  How else do you expect them to pick members of a dangerous and vital mission, randomly?

You don't know how the teams involved in this consisted, or any of the names involved. Don't pretend that you do.

I quoted a source saying it was Red team.  The only one here saying Gold was involved is you, with zero evidence.  So don't pretend you know Gold was involved when every document says it was Red.

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Plus one of those team members is alive and talking and saying they know personally that the rest of the team is still alive.

There are a number of article stating that he lied about Osama.

https://www.ibtimes.com/bin-laden-shooter-robert-oneill-misstated-facts-falsely-took-sole-credit-report-1721137

Bin Laden Shooter Robert O’Neill Misstated Facts, Falsely Took Sole Credit: Report

So are you accepting that O'Neill was on the team that killed Bin Laden?  And that he is still alive?  So he was NOT murdered by Biden?

If so it's good to see a little progress is being made here.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Tom Bishop on October 16, 2020, 09:58:02 PM
It was more than one team conducting the op according to the discussed claims.

(https://i.imgur.com/E5SkbEc.png)

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So are you accepting that O'Neill was on the team that killed Bin Laden?  And that he is still alive?  So he was NOT murdered by Biden?

He may have been involved, but the news article I posted suggested that he may have lied about killing Bin Laden. And the assault team is not necessarily the same team performing the DNA tests and verification and body cleanup.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: JSS on October 16, 2020, 10:04:26 PM
It was more than one team conducting the op according to the discussed claims.

(https://i.imgur.com/E5SkbEc.png)

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So are you accepting that O'Neill was on the team that killed Bin Laden?  And that he is still alive?  So he was NOT murdered by Biden?

He may have been involved, but the news article I posted suggested that he may have lied about killing Bin Laden. And the assault team is not necessarily the same team performing the DNA tests and verification and body cleanup.

Yeah.

Come back when you get your story straight and have some actual evidence or proof that the people killed in the helicopter attack were part of the Bin Laden raid.  Old news, and so obviously recycled to try and hurt Biden just before the election. Transparent.

So far you have people "discussing claims".  Pure guesswork and wishful thinking.

Remember all the kids murdered in the basement of the pizza shop? The one it turned out doesn't even have a basement?

The backtracking has already started.  Now you are claiming that the team the killed him is alive but maybe others were involved and those were murdered.  Sure.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Tom Bishop on October 16, 2020, 11:30:16 PM
Ex-Military member and Benghazi Whistleblower Nick Noe is on board, saw the evidence, re-tells the story, and explains what is coming. Hillary Clinton had Extortion 17 shot down with stinger missile. Treason.

0:00 to 8:00 - His background
8:00 to 14:00 End - Osama / Seal Team Six timeline

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_VQ0CP2S5U&ab_channel=AnnaKhait
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: JSS on October 16, 2020, 11:39:59 PM
Ex-Military Member and Benghazi Whistleblower Nick Noe is on board, re-tells the story, and explains what is coming. Says he saw the evidence. Hillary Clinton had Extortion 17 shot down with stinger missile. Treason.

1:00 to 8:00 - His background
8:00 to End - Seal Team Six timeline

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_VQ0CP2S5U&ab_channel=AnnaKhait

Yes, I too get my conspiracy news from YouTube. ::)

Nick Noe.  "Benghazi Whistleblower"  LOL. 

So some random guy on YouTube.  Not a stellar source of credible information here.  I mean, what makes this guy a reliable source of information?  The fact that he's saying what you so desperately want to hear?

The right really is imploding now, got nothing but crazy conspiracy theories to offer.

Has Trump ordered Barr to investigate?  Why not?  Possibly because even Barr wouldn't touch this crapsack?
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: stack on October 20, 2020, 11:51:07 PM
Ex-Military member and Benghazi Whistleblower Nick Noe is on board, saw the evidence, re-tells the story, and explains what is coming. Hillary Clinton had Extortion 17 shot down with stinger missile. Treason.

0:00 to 8:00 - His background
8:00 to 14:00 End - Osama / Seal Team Six timeline

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_VQ0CP2S5U&ab_channel=AnnaKhait

What happened to the terabytes of evidence the Next News Network and Anna Khait had? The video seems to have evaporated from the NNN channel on YouTube.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Rama Set on October 21, 2020, 01:20:23 AM
They sidelined this because Giuliani can’t wait to show us all the child pornography he has apparently.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: stack on October 21, 2020, 02:00:16 AM
Considering Rudy's track record as of late, can't wait for his terabytes to be melded with the Falconer and the Survivor contestant's terabytes - Maybe we'll actually have something that's remotely entertaining.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Dr Van Nostrand on October 22, 2020, 04:34:13 PM
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/rudy-giuliani-caught-compromising-position-new-borat-film-n1244187

If Borat can sucker Giuliani this easily, you know Vladimir can make him believe anything he wants.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: garygreen on October 29, 2020, 02:42:10 PM
It sounds like you are pretty desperate for this to not be true.

Wow, such desperation for this not to be true.

Pointing out other claims is pretty invalid if you have not looked into whether those claims were true or not outside of your liberal-biased media websites calling them false.

The evidence for this one is coming out, and will be bad news for Team Obama.

so what's the deal with the mountains and mountains of evidence that you kept promising? there are only a few days left until the election. if your bros are gonna release all this incredible evidence that they totally really do have because it's super real and not made up, then they should probably hop to it.

imagine talking this much shit and then never delivering the goods.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Roundy on October 29, 2020, 02:47:59 PM
Maybe it got lost in the mail like Tucker Carlson's incredibly damning evidence against Hunter Biden did.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Lord Dave on October 29, 2020, 03:01:19 PM
Maybe it got lost in the mail like Tucker Carlson's incredibly damning evidence against Hunter Biden did.

Or Borat took it posing as FedEx?
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Tom Bishop on October 29, 2020, 04:10:53 PM
It sounds like you are pretty desperate for this to not be true.

Wow, such desperation for this not to be true.

Pointing out other claims is pretty invalid if you have not looked into whether those claims were true or not outside of your liberal-biased media websites calling them false.

The evidence for this one is coming out, and will be bad news for Team Obama.

so what's the deal with the mountains and mountains of evidence that you kept promising? there are only a few days left until the election. if your bros are gonna release all this incredible evidence that they totally really do have because it's super real and not made up, then they should probably hop to it.

imagine talking this much shit and then never delivering the goods.

They've been giving updates - https://twitter.com/Annakhait/status/1320828770882703360

Khait said that they are putting it on the back burner because they don't want to distract from the Hunter Biden emails. Probably for the best. Those Hunter emails have already basically been established as genuine by the media, and Bobulinski has been featured by Fox News, international news, and is slowly being reported by the MSM. Best to focus investigative journalists on the pay to play and corruption.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Lord Dave on October 29, 2020, 04:17:06 PM
It sounds like you are pretty desperate for this to not be true.

Wow, such desperation for this not to be true.

Pointing out other claims is pretty invalid if you have not looked into whether those claims were true or not outside of your liberal-biased media websites calling them false.

The evidence for this one is coming out, and will be bad news for Team Obama.

so what's the deal with the mountains and mountains of evidence that you kept promising? there are only a few days left until the election. if your bros are gonna release all this incredible evidence that they totally really do have because it's super real and not made up, then they should probably hop to it.

imagine talking this much shit and then never delivering the goods.

They've been giving updates - https://twitter.com/Annakhait/status/1320828770882703360

Khait said that they are putting it on the back burner because they don't want to distract from the Hunter Biden emails. Probably for the best. Those Hunter emails have already basically been established as genuine by the media, and Bobulinski has been featured by Fox News, features in international news, and is slowly being reported by the MSM. Best to focus investigative journalists on the pay to play and corruption.

So the emails are authentic but the other stuff isn't and Conservatives want to focus on the authentic stuff only?
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Rama Set on October 29, 2020, 04:49:28 PM
I can’t wait to find out the FBI, having all the same information haven’t found anything amiss.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: stack on October 29, 2020, 07:39:17 PM
It sounds like you are pretty desperate for this to not be true.

Wow, such desperation for this not to be true.

Pointing out other claims is pretty invalid if you have not looked into whether those claims were true or not outside of your liberal-biased media websites calling them false.

The evidence for this one is coming out, and will be bad news for Team Obama.

so what's the deal with the mountains and mountains of evidence that you kept promising? there are only a few days left until the election. if your bros are gonna release all this incredible evidence that they totally really do have because it's super real and not made up, then they should probably hop to it.

imagine talking this much shit and then never delivering the goods.

They've been giving updates - https://twitter.com/Annakhait/status/1320828770882703360

Khait said that they are putting it on the back burner because they don't want to distract from the Hunter Biden emails. Probably for the best. Those Hunter emails have already basically been established as genuine by the media, and Bobulinski has been featured by Fox News, international news, and is slowly being reported by the MSM. Best to focus investigative journalists on the pay to play and corruption.

Ummm, they are back burnering terabytes of evidence of Bin Laden still being alive, the Obama administration ordering the murdering of Seal Team 6 and the a lethal raid on an American Embassy over Hunter's business dealings? Seriously? The highest of high treason, murderous endeavors, versus charges of nepotism and profiteering, the latter of which are easily levied against the Trump administration and have been for years?

That literally makes zero sense.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Tom Bishop on October 29, 2020, 07:45:56 PM
You described something that's more about Hillary Clinton's orders and the Obama Administration. The emails/Bobulinski is more directly about Joe Biden. Selling out your country is also treasonous. It is clear why people would want to focus on that as the October surprise rather than talking about bad things other people have done, and which Biden may only have been indirectly involved.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: stack on October 29, 2020, 08:19:24 PM
You described something that's more about Hillary Clinton's orders and the Obama Administration. The emails/Bobulinski is more directly about Joe Biden. Selling out your country is also treasonous. It is clear why people would want to focus on that as the October surprise rather than talking about bad things other people have done, and which Biden may only have been indirectly involved.

The whole terabyte gambit was laid out to take out Obama, HRC, Podesta AND Biden. That was the point. When it's really just some crazy garbage theater. Even your favorite channel that first reported on it, The Next News Network, took down the video. Now you just have the twitter "reporting" from the Ex-Survivor God-girl contestant. High marks for credibility.

The thing is, Trumps nepotism and selling out the country at present completely outshines anything on the Biden side of things. You can't swing a dead cat in the WH without hitting a family member on the gov't payroll. Nor can you do so without smacking into one of the Emolument cases against him. Not to mention who he owes money in the half a billion to billion range. The list goes on. Hunter trading on his Dad's name seems almost pedestrian in comparison.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Lord Dave on October 29, 2020, 10:09:05 PM
You described something that's more about Hillary Clinton's orders and the Obama Administration. The emails/Bobulinski is more directly about Joe Biden. Selling out your country is also treasonous. It is clear why people would want to focus on that as the October surprise rather than talking about bad things other people have done, and which Biden may only have been indirectly involved.

All of which would destroy the Democrats completely.  Imagine if an entire Democratic administration was charged with Treason.  What senators knew?  How could any democrat be trusted?  Hell, have to arrest Biden just because he'd be an accessory to Treason.

But nope.  Lets focus on some emails about Hunter Biden.

Do you realize how dumb that sounds?  Thats like worrying about a candle when someone has a live bomb on a timer.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: J-Man on November 06, 2020, 06:25:28 PM
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If every ballot was watermarked, Biden choo choo train is a world of hurt. Peeps going to jail. Trump out smarted the losers with da sting.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Rama Set on November 06, 2020, 09:56:54 PM
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If every ballot was watermarked, Biden choo choo train is a world of hurt. Peeps going to jail. Trump out smarted the losers with da sting.

Are you going to just run around spamming this out of context comment?
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Dr Van Nostrand on November 06, 2020, 10:52:18 PM
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If every ballot was watermarked, Biden choo choo train is a world of hurt. Peeps going to jail. Trump out smarted the losers with da sting.

Are you going to just run around spamming this out of context comment?

It's all they got.  They got to go with it.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: stack on November 06, 2020, 11:38:19 PM
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If every ballot was watermarked, Biden choo choo train is a world of hurt. Peeps going to jail. Trump out smarted the losers with da sting.

States print ballots, not the Fed or USPS.

(https://i.imgur.com/9AFGeKn.png)
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/nov/06/facebook-posts/did-president-trump-issue-secret-watermarks-ballot/
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Iceman2020 on January 03, 2021, 10:30:48 PM
I didnt want to derail the trump thread, but I'm curious as to when/whether there will be counter suits or other legal action against all the baseless legal action  that has followed election night.

Surely the american election system can let all these proceeding go 'unpunished' otherwise every result that either party doesnt like can be subjected to months of distracting, meaningless and costly suits that do nothing but make lawyers rich and restrict the ability of the transition team to perform their duties.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Lord Dave on January 03, 2021, 10:48:20 PM
I didnt want to derail the trump thread, but I'm curious as to when/whether there will be counter suits or other legal action against all the baseless legal action  that has followed election night.

Surely the american election system can let all these proceeding go 'unpunished' otherwise every result that either party doesnt like can be subjected to months of distracting, meaningless and costly suits that do nothing but make lawyers rich and restrict the ability of the transition team to perform their duties.

Trump is an anomoly so far.  The election results are rarely contested so much and with such hatred.  I think people will just let it go and hope it never repeats.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Iceman2020 on January 03, 2021, 11:51:28 PM
Trump is an anomoly so far.
Understatement of the year? ;D

The election results are rarely contested so much and with such hatred.  I think people will just let it go and hope it never repeats.

Hopefully they decide to do more than just hope because this has been bad for everyone.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Rama Set on January 04, 2021, 12:34:19 AM
There have been a few complaints against lawyers and some threats of libel suits, but I seriously doubt the fuckos will suffer any consequences.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: Iceman2020 on January 04, 2021, 01:01:44 AM
There have been a few complaints against lawyers and some threats of libel suits, but I seriously doubt the fuckos will suffer any consequences.

Sad state of affairs... as long as you're famous enough, you can waste the court's time, making yourself rich and more (in)famous in the process.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: AllAroundTheWorld on January 05, 2021, 09:11:53 AM
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If every ballot was watermarked, Biden choo choo train is a world of hurt. Peeps going to jail. Trump out smarted the losers with da sting.
This has aged well.
Title: Re: Obama, Clinton, and Biden Committed Treason
Post by: stack on January 05, 2021, 09:26:04 AM
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If every ballot was watermarked, Biden choo choo train is a world of hurt. Peeps going to jail. Trump out smarted the losers with da sting.
This has aged well.

Oh my goodness. I totally forgot about this one. It will be interesting to go back through all of these wild claims.
I mean we're still waiting on the terabytes of treasonous evidence against Obama, Biden, HRC & Podesta from the Falconer and the Survivor contestant. Can't wait to see how that one continues to age (rot).