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Title: Infiltrating the Conspiracy
Post by: juner on March 10, 2016, 10:27:44 PM
A bit of a sensationalist headline, I admit. But, I received my notice that in a few short months I will be heading to NASA's Ames Research Center for approximately a week. I don't want to go into too many details regarding what the trip is all about, but I will be sure to post any relevant bits of information pertaining to earth's shape here.
Title: Re: Infiltrating the Conspiracy
Post by: Thork on March 10, 2016, 10:34:24 PM
It is your big chance. Wear 'the belt' and free the world of the forked tongue space agency.

Failing that, give their new quantum computers a virus just for shits and giggles.

(http://cdn.ndtv.com/tech/images/gadgets/dwave_google_screenshot.jpg)
Title: Re: Infiltrating the Conspiracy
Post by: rabinoz on March 12, 2016, 12:04:20 AM
A bit of a sensationalist headline, I admit. But, I received my notice that in a few short months I will be heading to NASA's Ames Research Center for approximately a week. I don't want to go into too many details regarding what the trip is all about, but I will be sure to post any relevant bits of information pertaining to earth's shape here.
I do hope you bring home pictures of the acres and acres of painters making all those fake images to form the basis of these (almost) real-time weather images we get.
I sure you will find someone to explain how all those quantum computers can then the apparently correct cloud patterns to those thousands of images.
You know stuff like this that anyone can download on request (the eclipse only comes if you are lucky)!
(http://i.imgur.com/HbBEKrt.gif)    (http://i.imgur.com/p5rqCJc.gif)
Title: Re: Infiltrating the Conspiracy
Post by: Tom Bishop on March 12, 2016, 02:54:56 AM
A bit of a sensationalist headline, I admit. But, I received my notice that in a few short months I will be heading to NASA's Ames Research Center for approximately a week. I don't want to go into too many details regarding what the trip is all about, but I will be sure to post any relevant bits of information pertaining to earth's shape here.
I do hope you bring home pictures of the acres and acres of painters making all those fake images to form the basis of these (almost) real-time weather images we get.
I sure you will find someone to explain how all those quantum computers can then the apparently correct cloud patterns to those thousands of images.
You know stuff like this that anyone can download on request (the eclipse only comes if you are lucky)!
(http://i.imgur.com/HbBEKrt.gif)    (http://i.imgur.com/p5rqCJc.gif)

Speaking of images of the earth from the DISCOVR satellite, perhaps junkr should ask about the first full image of the earth published from DISCOVR which showed the word SEX spelled out in the clouds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc7FvDnKEGc
Title: Re: Infiltrating the Conspiracy
Post by: TheTruthIsOnHere on March 12, 2016, 03:24:05 AM
A bit of a sensationalist headline, I admit. But, I received my notice that in a few short months I will be heading to NASA's Ames Research Center for approximately a week. I don't want to go into too many details regarding what the trip is all about, but I will be sure to post any relevant bits of information pertaining to earth's shape here.
I do hope you bring home pictures of the acres and acres of painters making all those fake images to form the basis of these (almost) real-time weather images we get.
I sure you will find someone to explain how all those quantum computers can then the apparently correct cloud patterns to those thousands of images.
You know stuff like this that anyone can download on request (the eclipse only comes if you are lucky)!
(http://i.imgur.com/HbBEKrt.gif)    (http://i.imgur.com/p5rqCJc.gif)

You do notice,the clouds arent even moving in that picture... Right?
Title: Re: Infiltrating the Conspiracy
Post by: rabinoz on March 12, 2016, 09:28:21 PM
A bit of a sensationalist headline, I admit. But, I received my notice that in a few short months I will be heading to NASA's Ames Research Center for approximately a week. I don't want to go into too many details regarding what the trip is all about, but I will be sure to post any relevant bits of information pertaining to earth's shape here.
I do hope you bring home pictures of the acres and acres of painters making all those fake images to form the basis of these (almost) real-time weather images we get.
I sure you will find someone to explain how all those quantum computers can then the apparently correct cloud patterns to those thousands of images.
You know stuff like this that anyone can download on request (the eclipse only comes if you are lucky)!
(http://i.imgur.com/HbBEKrt.gif)    (http://i.imgur.com/p5rqCJc.gif)

You do notice,the clouds arent even moving in that picture... Right?



I presume you are joking!
They do say that: "There's none so blind as those who will not see."
Open you eyes!
(http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w433/RabDownunder/Solar%20Eclipse%20DSCVR%20-%20Australia_zpsk63u40rw.gif)

The do say Flat Earthers follow the Zetetic Cosmology! I can see that you must be an Earth Shape Agnostic. To even follow Zetetic Cosmology you have to observe!

If you can't see the difference in the clouds in these two pictures, I completely give up of trying to explain anything to you!

I would like to say I was sorry for being so harsh, but if you are too lazy to look things up and look properly at what is around you will never learn anything. The truth might be on there somewhere, but you will never find it!

I have read "seek and you will find" (actually Matthew 7:7 in the New International Version Bible). The corollary is true to don't really look and you will be forever blind!

Bye, Bye!
Title: Re: Infiltrating the Conspiracy
Post by: juner on March 12, 2016, 09:52:29 PM
The do say Flat Earthers follow the Zetetic Cosmology! I can see that you must be an Earth Shape Agnostic. To even follow Zetetic Cosmology you have to observe!

If you can't see the difference in the clouds in these two pictures, I completely give up of trying to explain anything to you!

I would like to say I was sorry for being so harsh, but if you are too lazy to look things up and look properly at what is around you will never learn anything. The truth might be on there somewhere, but you will never find it!

I have read "seek and you will find" (actually Matthew 7:7 in the New International Version Bible). The corollary is true to don't really look and you will be forever blind!

Bye, Bye!

Ignoring your ridiculous formatting methods for a moment, the pictures you posted are at different angles and literally show that the clouds haven't moved. I get that you try to use presentation to obfuscate the actual points you may try to make, but that won't work here. Please try again.
Title: Re: Infiltrating the Conspiracy
Post by: Copper Knickers on March 12, 2016, 10:21:27 PM
Ignoring your ridiculous formatting methods for a moment, the pictures you posted are at different angles and literally show that the clouds haven't moved. I get that you try to use presentation to obfuscate the actual points you may try to make, but that won't work here. Please try again.

The clouds clearly move. If you deny that then you undermine your own credibility as an honest contributor.
Title: Re: Infiltrating the Conspiracy
Post by: Rounder on March 12, 2016, 10:30:06 PM
The cloud movement is difficult to see in the left image, but in the image on the right it is very clear.
Title: Re: Infiltrating the Conspiracy
Post by: Thork on March 13, 2016, 12:10:40 AM
It is the sheer inconsistency with these images that really bothers me.

(http://undergroundmgzn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/night-time-expedition-29-photo.jpg)
This we are told is earth at night from space.

(http://i.imgur.com/p5rqCJc.gif)
Don't they have electricity in Australia? And where did the atmosphere go? Is Aurora Borealis just a thing that happens when they want it to?

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/QxrP3XCoSOI/hqdefault.jpg)
You'd have to be some kind of idiot to think these are all genuine and all on the same thing ... earth.
Title: Re: Infiltrating the Conspiracy
Post by: rabinoz on March 13, 2016, 02:08:43 AM
It is the sheer inconsistency with these images that really bothers me.

(http://undergroundmgzn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/night-time-expedition-29-photo.jpg)
This we are told is earth at night from space.

(http://i.imgur.com/p5rqCJc.gif)
Don't they have electricity in Australia? And where did the atmosphere go? Is Aurora Borealis just a thing that happens when they want it to?

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/QxrP3XCoSOI/hqdefault.jpg)
You'd have to be some kind of idiot to think these are all genuine and all on the same thing ... earth.
One word that anyone with any knowledge of photography might realise - EXPOSURE!
The weather satellites do not have the exposure set for taking night-time pictures!

And, the "Aurora Borealis just a thing that happens when" it wants to! You have to get the timing right, but of course being on the ISS gives a good viewing point.

Standard flat earth response "I don't understand it, so it must be a fake".

Just possibility a bit of thinking, knowledge or reasearch would help. But, when you wear blinkers, I guess nothing will help.
Title: Re: Infiltrating the Conspiracy
Post by: juner on March 13, 2016, 02:12:57 AM
Ignoring your ridiculous formatting methods for a moment, the pictures you posted are at different angles and literally show that the clouds haven't moved. I get that you try to use presentation to obfuscate the actual points you may try to make, but that won't work here. Please try again.

The clouds clearly move. If you deny that then you undermine your own credibility as an honest contributor.

The clouds (in left left image) clearly do not move. If you deny that then you undermine your own credibility as an honest contributor with under 20 posts.
Title: Re: Infiltrating the Conspiracy
Post by: Unsure101 on March 13, 2016, 03:44:11 AM
Ignoring your ridiculous formatting methods for a moment, the pictures you posted are at different angles and literally show that the clouds haven't moved. I get that you try to use presentation to obfuscate the actual points you may try to make, but that won't work here. Please try again.

The clouds clearly move. If you deny that then you undermine your own credibility as an honest contributor.

The clouds (in left left image) clearly do not move. If you deny that then you undermine your own credibility as an honest contributor with under 20 posts.
If you cannot see that the cloud formations above Australia have moved, you are clearly in denial.
Title: Re: Infiltrating the Conspiracy
Post by: juner on March 13, 2016, 05:13:43 AM
Ignoring your ridiculous formatting methods for a moment, the pictures you posted are at different angles and literally show that the clouds haven't moved. I get that you try to use presentation to obfuscate the actual points you may try to make, but that won't work here. Please try again.

The clouds clearly move. If you deny that then you undermine your own credibility as an honest contributor.

The clouds (in left left image) clearly do not move. If you deny that then you undermine your own credibility as an honest contributor with under 20 posts.
If you cannot see that the cloud formations above Australia have moved, you are clearly in denial.

Sorry, friend, they don't move an inch in the image. Realistically, they should've moved a significant amount. But, no, round earthers don't even try anymore.
Title: Re: Infiltrating the Conspiracy
Post by: Tom Bishop on March 13, 2016, 05:53:00 AM
The funny thing is about those two images is that if you look at the cloud formations carefully when the moon's shadow is near Australia you can see that the two images are actually depicting the same eclipse.

Why is it that the clouds are moving in one animation and not moving in the other, if it is of the same event?
Title: Re: Infiltrating the Conspiracy
Post by: Woody on March 13, 2016, 09:29:43 AM
The funny thing is about those two images is that if you look at the cloud formations carefully when the moon's shadow is near Australia you can see that the two images are actually depicting the same eclipse.

Why is it that the clouds are moving in one animation and not moving in the other, if it is of the same event?

I think maybe just looking at it frame by frame my answer the question if clouds are moving in both pictures.

Title: Re: Infiltrating the Conspiracy
Post by: Unsure101 on March 13, 2016, 11:44:13 AM
The funny thing is about those two images is that if you look at the cloud formations carefully when the moon's shadow is near Australia you can see that the two images are actually depicting the same eclipse.

Why is it that the clouds are moving in one animation and not moving in the other, if it is of the same event?

I think maybe just looking at it frame by frame my answer the question if clouds are moving in both pictures.
Yes, the clouds are moving. The FE believers just won't accept it.
Look at the cloud formations above Australia  and you'll see that they clearly change.
Title: Re: Infiltrating the Conspiracy
Post by: TheTruthIsOnHere on March 13, 2016, 03:34:30 PM
Change, and move are two different things, uncertain one.

Do they clearly move? Do they clearly move as far as they should?
Title: Re: Infiltrating the Conspiracy
Post by: Copper Knickers on March 13, 2016, 09:31:28 PM
Change, and move are two different things, uncertain one.

In this context 'cloud formations changing' and 'clouds moving' are pretty much the same thing.


Do they clearly move? Do they clearly move as far as they should?

Well, how far should they move? The period for the left hand gif is about 3-4 hours. It's a long distance view. I wouldn't expect to see significant movement. About as much as can be seen, in fact.
Title: Re: Infiltrating the Conspiracy
Post by: Unsure101 on March 14, 2016, 12:14:45 AM
Do they clearly move?
Yes, they clearly do!
Title: Re: Infiltrating the Conspiracy
Post by: andruszkow on March 14, 2016, 12:52:07 AM
Change, and move are two different things, uncertain one.

Do they clearly move? Do they clearly move as far as they should?
As viewed from 1,5 million kilometers, indeed.
Title: Re: Infiltrating the Conspiracy
Post by: juner on March 14, 2016, 01:50:10 AM
While I appreciate the in-depth discussion about alleged cloud movement on some random stitched together pictures, can we bring things back on topic?

I submitted the required forms. Just waiting to hear back from NASA about the badging process to get my credentials for the week I will be spending on site.
Title: Re: Infiltrating the Conspiracy
Post by: TheTruthIsOnHere on March 14, 2016, 03:58:33 AM
While I appreciate the in-depth discussion about alleged cloud movement on some random stitched together pictures, can we bring things back on topic?

I submitted the required forms. Just waiting to hear back from NASA about the badging process to get my credentials for the week I will be spending on site.

Hopefully you aren't on a black list and can actually get in lol
Title: Re: Infiltrating the Conspiracy
Post by: Rounder on March 14, 2016, 04:38:15 AM
Hopefully you aren't on a black list and can actually get in lol

Presumably 'Junker' is a TFES pseudonym and is not related to Junker's real life identity.

I wonder how they would react if they discover that a person who has a legitimate reason to be at a NASA facility was in fact a FE believer?  Would they still grant access and try to convince him or her of the RE position?  Or would they suspect the FE was up to some knd of "revealing the truth NASA doesn't want you to see" shenanigans and deny or revoke access?

In any case, Junker: I'm jealous, have fun!
Title: Re: Infiltrating the Conspiracy
Post by: Thork on March 14, 2016, 08:30:10 AM
Hopefully you aren't on a black list and can actually get in lol

Presumably 'Junker' is a TFES pseudonym and is not related to Junker's real life identity.

I wonder how they would react if they discover that a person who has a legitimate reason to be at a NASA facility was in fact a FE believer?  Would they still grant access and try to convince him or her of the RE position?  Or would they suspect the FE was up to some knd of "revealing the truth NASA doesn't want you to see" shenanigans and deny or revoke access?

In any case, Junker: I'm jealous, have fun!
I doubt he's going to do anything more serious that unblock the toilets. He's certainly not going there to work on Aurora or help reverse engineer some Roswell technology.
Title: Re: Infiltrating the Conspiracy
Post by: Jura-Glenlivet on March 14, 2016, 08:34:40 AM

It's all right I've told them, they are filling one of the empty storage bays with sand & rocks, and a gopher and marking it top secret.
Title: Re: Infiltrating the Conspiracy
Post by: TheTruthIsOnHere on March 14, 2016, 11:07:22 AM
Change, and move are two different things, uncertain one.

In this context 'cloud formations changing' and 'clouds moving' are pretty much the same thing.


Do they clearly move? Do they clearly move as far as they should?

Well, how far should they move? The period for the left hand gif is about 3-4 hours. It's a long distance view. I wouldn't expect to see significant movement. About as much as can be seen, in fact.

I'd say its closer to 5 or 6 hours.

http://weather.unisys.com/satellite/sat_vis.php?image=enh&inv=0&t=l12&region=he

Eventhough it's not drastic movement, or change... it is far more obvious than the photo animation in question, in particular the swirling clouds that never seem to, well, swirl. And the other gif animation we have looks about a thousand times different in terms of cloud movement, even appearance.

SORRY, LAST ONE JUNKER
Title: Re: Infiltrating the Conspiracy
Post by: juner on March 14, 2016, 10:21:09 PM
I wonder how they would react if they discover that a person who has a legitimate reason to be at a NASA facility was in fact a FE believer?  Would they still grant access and try to convince him or her of the RE position?  Or would they suspect the FE was up to some knd of "revealing the truth NASA doesn't want you to see" shenanigans and deny or revoke access?
We may find out. I am sure I will have too many drinks during one of the evening events and get too chatty about things.

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In any case, Junker: I'm jealous, have fun!
Thanks!  :D


I doubt he's going to do anything more serious that unblock the toilets. He's certainly not going there to work on Aurora or help reverse engineer some Roswell technology.
Go back to selling software, or whatever it is that you do.
Title: Re: Infiltrating the Conspiracy
Post by: Thork on March 14, 2016, 10:29:37 PM
Go back to selling software, or whatever it is that you do.
I design SaaS platforms now. I'm a Product Director.  :-B

I'd rather be a pron star or a famous sports star, but I'm getting a bit too old to do either of those.
Title: Re: Infiltrating the Conspiracy
Post by: Jura-Glenlivet on April 04, 2016, 08:13:52 PM

Did you go Junker?
Title: Re: Infiltrating the Conspiracy
Post by: BlueMoon on April 04, 2016, 09:24:55 PM
What are you even going to do there?  Whatever it is, I guess this is for the best.  It's time you realized just how real NASA is, as I already know.  They're not some sinister, ethereal "fork-tongued space agency" as you seem to think.  They are a benign facilitator of innovation and progress.  To go there and harass them, simply because you think you have evidence of a conspiracy, will earn you a solid right hook to the jaw.  Whether or not you actually get one, there's no justifying behavior like that. 
Title: Re: Infiltrating the Conspiracy
Post by: juner on April 04, 2016, 09:52:16 PM
Did you go Junker?
Not yet, it isn't for another couple of months.


What are you even going to do there?
Research.

It's time you realized just how real NASA is, as I already know.  They're not some sinister, ethereal "fork-tongued space agency" as you seem to think.
This seems like you are projecting your feelings on to me, friend. I am not sure where all of this came from or how you decided to come to this conclusion.

They are a benign facilitator of innovation and progress. 
I agree, they have made some cool stuff.

To go there and harass them, simply because you think you have evidence of a conspiracy, will earn you a solid right hook to the jaw. 
Whether or not you actually get one, there's no justifying behavior like that. 
What the hell is wrong with you? Does what you said even make sense to you when you go back and read it? I am going there to work and gain some valuable new experience. I've been invited, I am a guest. NASA is picking up most of the expenses, so I am certainly not going to "harass" anyone. It is pretty telling though that your response to criticism is physical assault. Good luck with that.
Title: Re: Infiltrating the Conspiracy
Post by: BlueMoon on April 04, 2016, 10:45:59 PM
Did you go Junker?
Not yet, it isn't for another couple of months.


What are you even going to do there?
Research.

It's time you realized just how real NASA is, as I already know.  They're not some sinister, ethereal "fork-tongued space agency" as you seem to think.
This seems like you are projecting your feelings on to me, friend. I am not sure where all of this came from or how you decided to come to this conclusion.

They are a benign facilitator of innovation and progress. 
I agree, they have made some cool stuff.

To go there and harass them, simply because you think you have evidence of a conspiracy, will earn you a solid right hook to the jaw. 
Whether or not you actually get one, there's no justifying behavior like that. 
What the hell is wrong with you? Does what you said even make sense to you when you go back and read it? I am going there to work and gain some valuable new experience. I've been invited, I am a guest. NASA is picking up most of the expenses, so I am certainly not going to "harass" anyone. It is pretty telling though that your response to criticism is physical assault. Good luck with that.
My apologies.  I was projecting Bart Sibrel, who decided to get a video of himself harassing Buzz Aldrin and got socked in the jaw for it. 
I'm not sure if you said already, but where are you going? 
Title: Re: Infiltrating the Conspiracy
Post by: juner on April 05, 2016, 01:12:43 AM
NASA Ames Research Center.
Title: Re: Infiltrating the Conspiracy
Post by: Pongo on April 05, 2016, 05:44:41 PM
NASA Ames Research Center.

I have it on strong authority that a leading flat-earth proponent has already infiltrated this facility.