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Title: Keurig's Coffee DRM is Unpopular
Post by: Rushy on February 06, 2015, 01:32:24 AM
http://www.theverge.com/2015/2/5/7986327/keurigs-attempt-to-drm-its-coffee-cups-totally-backfired

Keurig is shocked.
Title: Re: Keurig's Coffee DRM is Unpopular
Post by: Ghost of V on February 06, 2015, 02:49:05 AM
I may or may not work for Keurig. I do know that they are doing pretty badly right now. I hear about it a lot and do a lot of damage control for them.
Title: Re: Keurig's Coffee DRM is Unpopular
Post by: Rushy on February 06, 2015, 02:56:59 AM
My bad experience with Keurig makes me love Bed, Bath & Beyond, though. I once bought a Vue, hated it and never used it, then a year later I returned it to BB&B and they not only refunded the full price, but they gave me a debit refund, not a store credit refund.

BB&B 4 life.
Title: Re: Keurig's Coffee DRM is Unpopular
Post by: Ghost of V on February 06, 2015, 02:58:04 AM
Call Keurig customer service and ask to speak to a supervisor. You may be talking to someone you know online.
Title: Re: Keurig's Coffee DRM is Unpopular
Post by: Rushy on February 06, 2015, 03:02:49 AM
I'd tell you about my cool job but I can't.

No, really.
Title: Re: Keurig's Coffee DRM is Unpopular
Post by: Ghost of V on February 06, 2015, 03:03:35 AM
How many people have you killed?
Title: Re: Keurig's Coffee DRM is Unpopular
Post by: Rushy on February 06, 2015, 03:08:01 AM
How many people have you killed?

Me personally? None.
Title: Re: Keurig's Coffee DRM is Unpopular
Post by: Blanko on February 06, 2015, 03:15:50 AM
So hey about that Keurig coffee huh
Title: Re: Keurig's Coffee DRM is Unpopular
Post by: Rushy on February 06, 2015, 03:20:43 AM
Anyway, we should discuss the fact that a coffee company tried to actually mandate the coffee you could place into the machine. I'm surprised this hasn't gotten even more attention than it has from media.
Title: Re: Keurig's Coffee DRM is Unpopular
Post by: Lord Dave on February 06, 2015, 03:23:54 AM
Well, I didn't expect this.  I guess they're suffering from cup pirating.
Title: Re: Keurig's Coffee DRM is Unpopular
Post by: Ghost of V on February 06, 2015, 03:25:53 AM
The EA of coffee.
Title: Re: Keurig's Coffee DRM is Unpopular
Post by: Rushy on February 06, 2015, 03:26:48 AM
Well, I didn't expect this.  I guess they're suffering from cup pirating.

It isn't just the cups, since the patent on their original k-cup design has long expired, other companies have been creating generic cup brewing machines (Mr. Coffee took a huge portion of their machine business). This was Keurig's attempt to stop that from happening but was ultimately stupid because you can't prevent what has already occurred.
Title: Re: Keurig's Coffee DRM is Unpopular
Post by: Benjamin Franklin on February 06, 2015, 04:49:48 AM
No shit, it's a stupid idea.
Title: Re: Keurig's Coffee DRM is Unpopular
Post by: Thork on February 06, 2015, 08:53:05 PM
Call Keurig customer service and ask to speak to a supervisor. You may be talking to someone you know online.
You work on a complaints hotline for a DRM coffee manufacturer? Do you like abuse?
Title: Re: Keurig's Coffee DRM is Unpopular
Post by: juner on February 07, 2015, 12:02:33 AM
I suppose there is always the option of not buying Keurig products. That would seem to solve the dilemma.
Title: Re: Keurig's Coffee DRM is Unpopular
Post by: juner on February 07, 2015, 12:04:30 AM
Call Keurig customer service and ask to speak to a supervisor. You may be talking to someone you know online.

I literally just tried this. Got a supervisor and asked if it was Vauxy. It was not. You lie, therefore I assume you have no job.
Title: Re: Keurig's Coffee DRM is Unpopular
Post by: Blanko on February 07, 2015, 12:05:51 AM
Call Keurig customer service and ask to speak to a supervisor. You may be talking to someone you know online.

I literally just tried this. Got a supervisor and asked if it was Vauxy. It was not. You lie, therefore I assume you have no job.

It could still be someone you know online.
Title: Re: Keurig's Coffee DRM is Unpopular
Post by: Ghost of V on February 07, 2015, 12:48:42 AM
Call Keurig customer service and ask to speak to a supervisor. You may be talking to someone you know online.

I literally just tried this. Got a supervisor and asked if it was Vauxy. It was not. You lie, therefore I assume you have no job.

You should have asked for Hugh Jass. That's my real name.
Title: Re: Keurig's Coffee DRM is Unpopular
Post by: Lord Dave on February 07, 2015, 09:15:41 AM
Call Keurig customer service and ask to speak to a supervisor. You may be talking to someone you know online.

I literally just tried this. Got a supervisor and asked if it was Vauxy. It was not. You lie, therefore I assume you have no job.

You should have asked for Hugh Jass. That's my real name.
Huge ass!  I'm looking for a huge ass!
Title: Re: Keurig's Coffee DRM is Unpopular
Post by: markjo on February 08, 2015, 10:43:06 PM
No shit, it's a stupid idea.
Fortunately, the DRM that Keurig used is trivially easy to circumvent.
Title: Re: Keurig's Coffee DRM is Unpopular
Post by: Thork on February 08, 2015, 11:40:13 PM
No shit, it's a stupid idea.
Fortunately, the DRM that Keurig used is trivially easy to circumvent.
Or ... you could just buy your coffee from someone else.
Title: Re: Keurig's Coffee DRM is Unpopular
Post by: markjo on February 09, 2015, 03:01:10 AM
No shit, it's a stupid idea.
Fortunately, the DRM that Keurig used is trivially easy to circumvent.
Or ... you could just buy your coffee from someone else.
Yes, and then circumvent the DRM so that you can use that non-Keurig coffee in your Keurig 2.0 coffee maker.
Title: Re: Keurig's Coffee DRM is Unpopular
Post by: jroa on February 09, 2015, 09:43:33 AM
No shit, it's a stupid idea.
Fortunately, the DRM that Keurig used is trivially easy to circumvent.
Or ... you could just buy your coffee from someone else.
Yes, and then circumvent the DRM so that you can use that non-Keurig coffee in your Keurig 2.0 coffee maker.

Or, make coffee like a non-yuppie. 
Title: Re: Keurig's Coffee DRM is Unpopular
Post by: EnigmaZV on February 10, 2015, 09:31:23 PM
Yuppies use a cappuccino machine.
Title: Re: Keurig's Coffee DRM is Unpopular
Post by: Rushy on February 11, 2015, 01:31:06 AM
Or, make coffee like a non-yuppie.

I'm pretty sure a yuppie is the only kind of person that complains about the coffee a Keurig produces. You've been the coffee yuppie all along.
Title: Re: Keurig's Coffee DRM is Unpopular
Post by: Ghost of V on February 11, 2015, 01:40:49 AM
Or, make coffee like a non-yuppie.

I'm pretty sure a yuppie is the only kind of person that complains about the coffee a Keurig produces. You've been the coffee yuppie all along.

You made the thread. You're the paragon of yuppie excellence.
Title: Re: Keurig's Coffee DRM is Unpopular
Post by: Saddam Hussein on February 11, 2015, 02:05:04 AM
I drink tea.
Title: Re: Keurig's Coffee DRM is Unpopular
Post by: Roundy on February 11, 2015, 03:29:46 AM
I drink tea.

Pussy.
Title: Re: Keurig's Coffee DRM is Unpopular
Post by: Rama Set on February 11, 2015, 03:54:33 AM
I drink tea.

Pussy.

British...




Touche
Title: Re: Keurig's Coffee DRM is Unpopular
Post by: markjo on February 11, 2015, 03:55:40 AM
No shit, it's a stupid idea.
Fortunately, the DRM that Keurig used is trivially easy to circumvent.
Or ... you could just buy your coffee from someone else.
Yes, and then circumvent the DRM so that you can use that non-Keurig coffee in your Keurig 2.0 coffee maker.

Or, make coffee like a non-yuppie.
Why would I make coffee at all?  That shit is nasty. (http://www.testmagic.com/images/emoticon-yuck.gif)
Title: Re: Keurig's Coffee DRM is Unpopular
Post by: Ghost of V on March 03, 2015, 01:03:28 AM
Spoke with Yaakov today on the phone. He bought a brewer and felt he couldn't use it until it had been blessed by a rabbi. Yaakov then took his brewer to a rabbi and had it submerged. He is now demanding a refund on the machine.
Title: Re: Keurig's Coffee DRM is Unpopular
Post by: juner on March 03, 2015, 03:01:16 AM
Spoke with Yaakov today on the phone. He bought a brewer and felt he couldn't use it until it had been blessed by a rabbi. Yaakov then took his brewer to a rabbi and had it submerged. He is now demanding a refund on the machine.

Did that really happen? Because I have had a similar encounter many years ago with some silverware.
Title: Re: Keurig's Coffee DRM is Unpopular
Post by: Ghost of V on March 03, 2015, 03:02:30 AM
Spoke with Yaakov today on the phone. He bought a brewer and felt he couldn't use it until it had been blessed by a rabbi. Yaakov then took his brewer to a rabbi and had it submerged. He is now demanding a refund on the machine.

Did that really happen? Because I have had a similar encounter many years ago with some silverware.

This really happened. I am not making this up.

What is your story?
Title: Re: Keurig's Coffee DRM is Unpopular
Post by: juner on March 03, 2015, 03:10:27 AM
Spoke with Yaakov today on the phone. He bought a brewer and felt he couldn't use it until it had been blessed by a rabbi. Yaakov then took his brewer to a rabbi and had it submerged. He is now demanding a refund on the machine.

Did that really happen? Because I have had a similar encounter many years ago with some silverware.

This really happened. I am not making this up.

What is your story?

Back when I was in high school I had a job helping out at a cleaning business. They cleaned fancy restaurants and rich people's home. Anyway, one of the migrant workers at this Jewish lady's house washed some silverware that apparently wasn't supposed to be washed. To make it copacetic again, she had to bury the silverware underground for something like a year.
Title: Re: Keurig's Coffee DRM is Unpopular
Post by: Rushy on March 03, 2015, 03:16:25 AM
I underestimated how fucking nuts Yaakov is.
Title: Re: Keurig's Coffee DRM is Unpopular
Post by: Tau on March 03, 2015, 03:43:17 AM
Spoke with Yaakov today on the phone. He bought a brewer and felt he couldn't use it until it had been blessed by a rabbi. Yaakov then took his brewer to a rabbi and had it submerged. He is now demanding a refund on the machine.

As he should. It's anti-semitism not to design all machines to be waterproof. He should sue for discrimination, regardless of whether they give him a refund.
Title: Re: Keurig's Coffee DRM is Unpopular
Post by: Ghost of V on March 03, 2015, 03:53:30 AM
Spoke with Yaakov today on the phone. He bought a brewer and felt he couldn't use it until it had been blessed by a rabbi. Yaakov then took his brewer to a rabbi and had it submerged. He is now demanding a refund on the machine.

As he should. It's anti-semitism not to design all machines to be waterproof. He should sue for discrimination, regardless of whether they give him a refund.


I authorize refunds and he's not getting one. He'll have to press charges, on himself. For being an idiot.

I would send him a replacement but who's to say he's not going to short it out again by submerging it in miracle water?

And Junker, what the hell. The stupidity of these people blows my mind sometimes.

Disclaimer. I am not sure if it was actually Yaakov, but it might as well have been him.
Title: Re: Keurig's Coffee DRM is Unpopular
Post by: rooster on March 03, 2015, 03:54:32 AM
One of my first jobs was at BB&B, they pay really well and I learned how to fold a super fancy towel without using the folding table.

Anyway, I only use a french press so none of this is relevant to my life.
Title: Re: Keurig's Coffee DRM is Unpopular
Post by: Ghost of V on March 03, 2015, 03:56:41 AM


Anyway, I only use a french press so none of this is relevant to my life.


What a pretentious snob. You need a Keurig brewer in your life.

They're great products................
Title: Re: Keurig's Coffee DRM is Unpopular
Post by: rooster on March 03, 2015, 03:58:47 AM
French presses are the most simple of all coffee makers. I will never change my ways.
Title: Re: Keurig's Coffee DRM is Unpopular
Post by: Rushy on March 03, 2015, 03:59:51 AM
I only use a Freedom press. Dirty French and their dirty presses.
Title: Re: Keurig's Coffee DRM is Unpopular
Post by: markjo on March 05, 2015, 08:46:13 PM
Spoke with Yaakov today on the phone. He bought a brewer and felt he couldn't use it until it had been blessed by a rabbi. Yaakov then took his brewer to a rabbi and had it submerged. He is now demanding a refund on the machine.

I'd sue the Rabbi for not knowing better:
Quote from: http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/1230791/jewish/Immersion-of-Vessels-Tevilat-Keilim.htm
Utensils That Cannot Be Immersed

    If an item is too large to immerse, or it would be ruined through immersion, one should take it apart or otherwise break it, and then put it back together or fix it. When one does this, it is considered as if the utensil has been “manufactured by a Jew.”38 If one cannot do this, he should give the utensil to a non-Jew as a gift and then “borrow” it back from him for extended (indefinite) use.39 The non-Jew should acquire the utensil in a halachic sense by picking up or moving it

You just know that the Jews have a loophole for just about everything.
Title: Re: Keurig's Coffee DRM is Unpopular
Post by: Ghost of V on March 05, 2015, 08:48:00 PM
Why do these rules even exist to begin with?
Title: Re: Keurig's Coffee DRM is Unpopular
Post by: markjo on March 05, 2015, 08:52:47 PM
Because God said so and that's good enough for them.  Actually, it's probably something along the lines of the Jews managed to figure out that certain hygienic/sanitary practices were a good thing and they decided to make them into rituals to make sure that everybody followed them.
Title: Re: Keurig's Coffee DRM is Unpopular
Post by: Rushy on March 05, 2015, 09:44:58 PM
If God put these rules out I doubt that same god would honor a dumb loophole like taking it apart and putting it back together.
Title: Re: Keurig's Coffee DRM is Unpopular
Post by: Thork on March 07, 2015, 10:27:51 AM
Why do these rules even exist to begin with?
Because there are rabbis making a huge fortune out of blessing utensils.
Title: Re: Keurig's Coffee DRM is Unpopular
Post by: Roundy on April 03, 2015, 07:25:36 AM
Why do these rules even exist to begin with?
Because there are rabbis making a huge fortune out of blessing utensils.

You know, I never thought about it before, but with the requirement that every male be circumcized I bet they really clean up on brisses.  I wonder if it's customary to give the mohel a tip.
Title: Re: Keurig's Coffee DRM is Unpopular
Post by: EnigmaZV on April 09, 2015, 08:22:04 PM
I hear he gets to keep the tip.
Title: Re: Keurig's Coffee DRM is Unpopular
Post by: markjo on May 08, 2015, 03:44:36 AM
Apparently DRM is unpopular with Keureg stock holders as well.
http://money.cnn.com/2015/05/06/investing/keurig-green-mountain-earnings-stock-fall/
Title: Re: Keurig's Coffee DRM is Unpopular
Post by: lions_lair on June 06, 2015, 11:24:39 PM
Percolator