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Flat Earth Community / Re: No Transmission Delays to the Moon
« on: February 26, 2015, 02:57:07 AM »Did you watch the video?
Is that a joke?
At the beginning of the first video the author criticizes that NASA has been going through the videos hosted on their site and adding in pauses where none previously existed. That is why the audio the author is playing is different than the audio on NASA's website.
He merely asserts that without any sources, citations, or warrants. Perhaps that's good enough for you, but I'm skeptical. I've already demonstrated that we ought not take him at his word.
But they missed this one: Download this clip (129MB) https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/a17v.1692526.mpg
Listen to the last 15 seconds of that clip. Schmitt says "No, we emptied those into 5" immediately after Huston asks the question.
A negative answer of "No" cannot be given until the question is asked. How did the astronaut know what Huston was going to ask before they asked it? If the audio was being recorded at mission control there should have been a pause of at least 2.5 seconds before we hear the astronaut's reply.
Expect to see this video edited in the next couple of years. NASA likes to let the sensation die down and then go back and edit their mistakes (ie. the "C" rock).
Tom, you are a beautiful, beautiful snowflake.
As I mentioned already, these arguments rest entirely on the unwarranted and unreasonable assumption that the astronaut will always wait to speak until Houston has finished speaking entirely. I see no reason why this should be true. Interruption, confusion, and talking-over are regular features of face-to-face conversations, let alone a conversation with people who are on the Moon.
Without this assumption, the audio sounds exactly as we should expect it to. I took the NASA audio and made this clip.
I'm getting better at the diagrams, no? As you can see, there's plenty of time between the end of Houston's first sentence and the beginning of Cernan's response. Cernan started to speak when he heard the end of the first sentence. Then as he spoke he heard more words coming from Houston and stopped speaking to hear them before finally completing his sentence. The exchange is confused because of the communication delay. Once again you can even hear the echos from Houston interrupting him!
To find out if that actually makes sense, I silenced the audio for the 2.5 seconds preceding Cernan's response, producing this clip. I don't hear anything 'impossible' about this exchange. Houston tells Cernan that container 3 has lunar samples in it on the rover. Cernan responds that they were already emptied into container 5.