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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: December 20, 2019, 02:10:09 AM »
the gop would be foaming at the mouth to impeach president hillary clinton if presented with an identical fact pattern.  and if senators pelosi and schumer went on tv talking about how they refused even the pretense of being an impartial juror, hannity would be dead right now.  he literally would've stoked out on his own show ranting about the sanctity of constitutional oaths.

edit: lol that's right.  senator pelosi.  totally exactly what she is.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Thork crows for a bit
« on: December 16, 2019, 05:13:53 AM »
haha black people are so stupid
hot take

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: December 09, 2019, 10:38:09 PM »
lol millions of gop voters actually buy this shit:

Flat Earth Theory / Re: Zeteticism
« on: December 08, 2019, 08:07:26 PM »
Popper's contributions to philosophy were largely hypothetical, and commonly dismissed - he made no claim that anyone actually employs them, and presented them as a recommendation. To suggest that critical rationalism and the scientific method are one and the same is disingenuous to say the least.

In short, you took someone who proposes a method similar to Zeteticism, except you chose to pretend that his proposed methodology is representative of what his contemporaries did, or what's being done now. How foolish.

In your credit, you did bring to attention the fact that Popper agreed with us on this particular issue. It's just a shame that you did that by attempting to sneak through a lie.

your interpretation of popper as i understand it from this post is really not very accurate.

for one thing, popper was an absolute giant in the philosophy of science, and he's still taken very seriously.  popper's falsification theory dominated the field until thomas kuhn rocked everybody's tits off talking about paradigms.

for another, popper was the opposite of a zetetic.  the wiki says that "using zeteticism one bases his conclusions on experimentation and observation rather than on an initial theory that is to be proved or disproved."  contra zeteticism, he argued that the only statements with scientific meaning are those that can be falsified with respect to some prior theory or framework.  even beyond that, popper explicitly argued against newtonian 'pure observation.'  he believed that observations/empirical statements themselves are always and necessarily 'theory-laden.'

apropos of this argument about whether or not science tells you to stop doing science after a single experiment (lol), popper says this in the logic of scientific discovery:

We do not take even our own observations quite seriously, or accept them as scientific observations, until we have repeated and tested them. Only by such repetitions can we convince ourselves that we are not dealing with a mere isolated ‘coincidence’, but with events which, on account of their regularity and reproducibility, are in principle inter-subjectively testable.

Technology & Information / Re: Twitch Pricing
« on: November 27, 2019, 05:28:09 PM »
i watch a shitload of sports.  but, in fairness to pete's argument, i refuse to pay for the privilege.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: October 23, 2019, 05:47:24 PM »

hey remember when hillary was a traitor because some email had a C on it or whatever

Arts & Entertainment / Re: FES Book Club
« on: October 04, 2019, 03:17:03 AM »
i did indeed read some sci-fi next.  i've completed the first two books of the culture series by iain m. banks.  i never thought there would be a sci-fi universe i enjoy as much as star trek, but i have to admit that the culture is way fucking cooler.  like star trek, the culture is basically fully-automated luxury gay space communism but on a much grander scale than star trek.  also the books in the series aren't connected; they're self-contained stories.

my favorite thing about this particular sci-fi series is that the plot is never actually driven by technology (or lack thereof).  it drives me crazy when sci-fi authors either arbitrarily disable technology that would solve the plot, or derive the plot from a technological malfunction.  banks doesn't use that device, and i dig it.

i've read consider phlebas and the player of games so far.  i really enjoyed both of them, but i recommend the player of games as the entry point to the series.  it's much more compelling, and it actually has more background on the culture than the first book.

i'm gonna skip book 3 and read excession next.  apparently it focuses on the drones and minds, and those are some of my favorite characters in the series.  i love how banks writes the culture's AI.  it's perfect.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: September 27, 2019, 02:30:34 PM »

tom makes a really good point here that trump has violated an international treaty in his pursuit of dirt on his political enemies.  article 4 of treaty 106-16 clearly articulates how to request assistance from a signatory: in writing by the "central authority."  as per article 2, in the case of the US, the central authority is the AG.  in ukraine, it's also the AG.  and article 2 explicitly states that "the central authorities shall communicate directly with one another for the purposes of this treaty."

further, article 4 outlines a number of statutory requirements that any request must meet, and trump's call meets none of them.

Are you suggesting that the President was lying?

lol of course not.  perish the thought.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: September 26, 2019, 01:53:39 PM »
how could anyone possibly be so naive as to think trump gives a shit about corruption in ukraine.  or literally anything else that happens in ukraine.

Flat Earth Theory / Re: Spirit Levels on a Flat Earth
« on: September 23, 2019, 01:16:13 AM »
imagine a spirit level in which the 'air bubble' is evacuated.  there is no air in the tube, only liquid and a small bubble of vacuum.  now there is nothing inside the bubble for gravity to act on.  it can only act on the liquid.  how do you expect the spirit level to behave?  will it still work?  why or why not?

What you are suggesting is a non-sequitur and it is impossible for any logical conclusion to follow from it.

The bubble is just the air left in the vial as a result of it being incompletely filled. The bubble is just the absence of fluid.  What you are asking is "imagine there is no absence of fluid in the vial".  If there is no lack of fluid in the vial, the vial is completely full and will not move at all because it would be constrained by the walls of the vial.

no i'm saying imagine that there are no particles of any kind in the bubble.  imagine that the vial has liquid and a small bubble of vacuum.  now there is nothing in the bubble for gravity to act upon.  does the spirit level still work?

Flat Earth Theory / Re: Spirit Levels on a Flat Earth
« on: September 22, 2019, 05:00:23 PM »
When a spirit level is level…when it is “normal to the direction of gravity”…the gravitational force on the bubble, which is pulling the bubble down, is equal to the normal force produced by the level, which is pushing it up.  If you tilt the level far enough, the gravitational force on the bubble becomes greater than the normal force produced by level…and the bubble “falls”.

imagine a spirit level in which the 'air bubble' is evacuated.  there is no air in the tube, only liquid and a small bubble of vacuum.  now there is nothing inside the bubble for gravity to act on.  it can only act on the liquid.  how do you expect the spirit level to behave?  will it still work?  why or why not?

Arts & Entertainment / Re: Just Watched
« on: August 31, 2019, 05:08:59 AM »
dark phoenix

it was shitty.  one of the most emotionless movies i've seen in a long, long time.  i guess the set piece on the train was cool, but that's really the only good thing i can say about dark phoenix.

way to fuck that one up, fox.  0 out of 420 stars.

Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Problems with the Heliocentric Model
« on: August 18, 2019, 07:05:34 PM »
noisy data can easily produce negative parallax values:

it's relatively simple to demonstrate that negative parallax values are the result of measurement error.  you simulate a set of known parallax values, and you recover them with mock measurements.  even if you give your mock measurements only gaussian noise (no systematics), you will still recover negative parallax values.

Luri+2018 demonstrates this here:

for an in-depth treatment of the these measurement uncertainties as they pertain to gaia, see:

the punchline is that parallax catalogs are dominated by faint, distant sources (this is true of all astronomical surveys).  faint, distant sources will have small parallaxes (they are distant), and large positional measurement uncertainties (they are faint).

i dunno why, but this one really salts my almonds or whatever.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 18, 2019, 10:32:43 PM »
Very quick Google:

Your other comments you're just being disingenuous.

Ah, yes, the very same site that is known for ruling lies from Democrats as "half-false" but twisting itself in knots to claim Trump is lying. Linking this site tells me everything I need to know about you. That you refuse to even attempt to address my other points is the cherry on top.

wait are you seriously trying to imply that turnip is like...honest?  you genuinely can't come up with any examples of his outrageous falsehoods on your own?  really?

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 04, 2019, 01:56:11 PM »
imagine being more bothered by word choice than basic human dignity

Arts & Entertainment / Re: Official Sports Thread
« on: June 30, 2019, 05:52:17 PM »
FUCK toronto

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 07, 2019, 11:26:06 PM »

today the gop (once again) gets very upset that private actors used speech and wallets to affect the policies of another private actor. 


fucking idiots.  fuck off.

Arts & Entertainment / Re: FES Book Club
« on: May 29, 2019, 03:34:08 AM »
i finished tinker tailor soldier spy.  the book is significantly better than the 2011 movie, especially the jim prideaux plotline.

i think i'm gonna take a pause from george smiley and the karla trilogy.  gonna read some sci-fi next.

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