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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: Today at 05:33:10 AM »
It's not okay to lie.

Do you hold Trump to the same standard?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-fact-checker-tracked-trump-claims/2021/01/23/ad04b69a-5c1d-11eb-a976-bad6431e03e2_story.html

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An assessment of the Fact Checker database shows the dramatic escalation in the rate of Trump’s dishonesty over time. Trump averaged about six claims a day in his first year as president, 16 claims day in his second year, 22 claims day in his third year — and 39 claims a day in his final year. Put another way, it took him 27 months to reach 10,000 claims and another 14 months to reach 20,000. He then exceeded the 30,000 mark less than five months later.

Trump made false claims about just about everything, big and small, so the Fact Checker database provides a window into his obsessions (and the news cycle) at the time. When he felt under siege or in trouble, he responded by trying to craft an alternative reality for his supporters — and to viciously attack his foes. Nearly half of the false claims were communicated at his campaign rallies or via his now-suspended Twitter account.

More at the link. Suffice to say, he was a liar


Embarrasing
Quite.

Trump is only a liar if you don't assume he's always truthful.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 26, 2021, 08:48:32 AM »
Hey Aussies:
Are the quarentine camps for anyone who shows a sniffle?  Are they being forced in, taking away their phones, and being forced to pay huge amounts of money?

The only quarantines I know that happen are from overseas arrivals or interstate. Phones are not taken away

The hotel stay is at your own expense

If you have a sniffle or symptoms already you are advised to get tested and stay at home. If you test positive then you are ordered to stay at home. Nothing is taken away from you

What about the camps they built?  Expense to person?

Hotels were never built for quarantine purposes. There was too much transmission inside the hotels

The 'camps' are much better. Each unit being self contained. People able to have fresh air and a quarantine that does its job. I know I'd rather be in one of those than a weakly fortified hotel

It would be paid like the currently hotel system is.  Which is still expensive IMO. But that's still cheaper than the billions of dollars it would cost the state in an uncontrolled spread and death of Covid. I guess the cats already out of the bag in some states already. Some states are covid free and enjoying life as normal. Can't blame 'em for wanting to keep it that way


' camps' have such a negative connotation though. Let's use the gubberments feel good spin doctored word of 'village' instead :)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-09/mining-camp-designers-plan-covid-19-quarantine-hub-in-wa/100119364

Thanks.
My mom was convinced they were sending anyone in Austrailia who showed any symptoms to these camps and taking their phones and other communication devices then charging them.  All against their will.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 26, 2021, 06:35:45 AM »
Hey Aussies:
Are the quarentine camps for anyone who shows a sniffle?  Are they being forced in, taking away their phones, and being forced to pay huge amounts of money?

The only quarantines I know that happen are from overseas arrivals or interstate. Phones are not taken away

The hotel stay is at your own expense

If you have a sniffle or symptoms already you are advised to get tested and stay at home. If you test positive then you are ordered to stay at home. Nothing is taken away from you

What about the camps they built?  Expense to person?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: September 26, 2021, 06:33:43 AM »
So you guys accept that the liberal media was lying about this, apparently give them a pass, and then immediately accuse the other side of lying.

Wow.

How about just accepting that the liberal side are being dishonest liars about this through and through?

They were not.  The report was shit.
It basically said "We found alot of issues but couldn't prove fraud or anything thwt didn't match up... But there could have been!  So you have to not certify the results"
Makes me wonder how the rest of the state would have faired, eh?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 25, 2021, 08:01:20 PM »
Hey Aussies:
Are the quarentine camps for anyone who shows a sniffle?  Are they being forced in, taking away their phones, and being forced to pay huge amounts of money?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: September 25, 2021, 06:09:20 PM »
I read the report.

I like how they put in a bunch of numbers but no data on how those numbers came up.  Like over 2,000 people leaving the state in 30 days?  Seems fishy....


Yeah.  The report was very biased.  Especially the "get rid of all mail in ballots".  That got me right there.

Tho some of it is good practice, like have no shared logins.
But I laughed at the dual boot.  Duh... Some software wants windows, some wants linux.  Taxpayer money, man... Sometimes ya need open source.

And does that senator even know what an exe or dll file is?  Does she know about file recovery?  Sheesh..


Anyway, I wonder how Republican feel with the state linking everything together?  They're usually against government intervention but this report suggests that all voting rolls should be managed by the state government, not individual counties.

Should be fun to see that get voted into law, eh? (Ps. I think they should.  I think it should be managed on a federal level too.)

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: September 25, 2021, 07:54:53 AM »
Tom's post did not age well.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: September 24, 2021, 05:46:48 PM »
The amazingly sad thing in this country is that facts and data are no longer relevant.  Only this.

Or maybe the reporters just lied and published that Joe Biden won the count, but conveniently cut out the part that many of those votes were fraudulent.



Well yeah.  Its gonna show republicans committed fraud and still lost.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: September 24, 2021, 04:30:56 PM »
Or maybe the reporters just lied and published that Joe Biden won the count
lol. OK, who had
"ThE rEpOrTeRs WeRe LyInG"
in the Tom sweepstake?
This is quite a fun game  ;D
Not me.  Mostly because of how easy it would be for the Arizona government to correct them.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 24, 2021, 04:08:07 PM »
What kind of person is behind it to think murdering billions of people will make their life better?
Answer= Shifter, Rama, LordDave, stack, xasop, Iceman, rooster, garygreen, et.al.

Sooo... Murdering billions, including myself, is going to make my life better?
But I'll definitely lose my job.  Have no hope of buying a house.  My wife will die too, leaving my kids orphans.
How will my life be better?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 24, 2021, 08:19:55 AM »
Tom, can you even spell out what this conspiracies end game is? What kind of person is behind it to think murdering billions of people will make their life better? And how somehow, that this detail was missed by hundreds of thousands of scientists and professionals but somehow a numpty like you figured it all out?

There is only one:
The most powerful people in the world want to exterminate humanity.  Including themselves.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 24, 2021, 04:13:16 AM »
Unvaccinated people on a ventelator have a much lower chance of survival than other patients.  When resources are limited, you triage the patient most likely to survive.  This is triage 101.
So if you have two patients, one with covid but no vaccine (hence why they're there) and one with stage 4 lung cancer, Covid person wins.
If its lung damage from a chemical burn, chemical burn person wins.

But then, Tom probably thinks it should be first come, first serve.  First to need s ventelator gets a ventelator until they don't need it anymore.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 24, 2021, 04:01:06 AM »
Wait...


Is Tom actually thinking standard emergency triage is a conspiracy?  Does he even know what Triage is?  Does he know what "limited resources" is?  Does he know this is exactly what we were trying to avoid with masks, quarentine, and social distancing?

Also, I thought this was a virus developed by China to kill people and weaken the US economy, not the US government going genocidal on people who don't get vaccines.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 23, 2021, 04:10:02 PM »
Ok, thats it.  I'm calling for you to be removed and out into a camp, Lackey.  Please be on the lookout for three police officers.  Your crime will be.... Reckless endangerment of children.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 22, 2021, 09:43:45 PM »
"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few."
Quotes fictional character ignoring the ultimate outcome.
Everyone but spock lived.  (And then Spock came back)
Because those that lived recognized value in all, unlike you.
This is a weird way to say "You're right Dave".  You do realize that the point of the quote is that everyone has value and an individual should not put his needs above the needs of everyone else.  Here's a good, easy example:
Like lets say power's out and no one has AC in 105F weather.  Except you because you have a backup power system with A/C.  Now, if you put your needs above others, you'll just let your neighbors suffer in the heat and maybe die.  If you put their needs above yours, you'll invite them over to keep cool.  It won't be AS good, maybe keep everyone at 80F instead of 65F, but they'll all live.  You sacrifice your comfort for the safety of the community members.  THAT is the point.

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Ignores the concept of self-determination.
What good is self-determination if your choice to not die gets you killed anyway?

Are you really saying that every fire fighter, police officer, and soldier is the enemy of democracy?  Because they put the needs of the many (city, state, nation) above their own.  Often.
Through their own self -determination they determine that.
Yes and if you self determine to be a hindrance or danger to society, we remove you from society.  Actions have consequences and when your actions harm others or allow others to be harmed, you are not supporting the society and are nothing more than a drain on its resources.  No one is taking away self determination, we're just doing what has always been done: applying consequences.

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Advocates MOB RULE!
MOB rule is typically spontanious and against social wellbeing.  So... No.
You were a tremendous advocate for BLM protests and all other forms of anti-republic actions, labeling a republic = to a fascist form.
Not true.  I hated the Capitol Riots of January 2021.  And that was anti-republic.

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Lord Dave = True Democratic National Socialist (NAZI)
God you're pathetic.  At least write something that spells Nazi.  Like "National Antihisis to Zion Initiative" or something.
Democratic National Socialists are NAZIS.

And that is definitely your preferred politics and life philosophy.

Do you know any other fascist group besides Nazis?  Or do you just not remember history?  Or maybe you were taught history of anything other than World War 2?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 22, 2021, 06:53:34 PM »
"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few."
Quotes fictional character ignoring the ultimate outcome.
Everyone but spock lived.  (And then Spock came back)

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Ignores the concept of self-determination.
What good is self-determination if your choice to not die gets you killed anyway?
Are you really saying that every fire fighter, police officer, and soldier is the enemy of democracy?  Because they put the needs of the many (city, state, nation) above their own.  Often.

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Advocates MOB RULE!
MOB rule is typically spontanious and against social wellbeing.  So... No.

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Lord Dave = True Democratic National Socialist (NAZI)
God you're pathetic.  At least write something that spells Nazi.  Like "National Antihisis to Zion Initiative" or something.

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Technology & Information / Re: Help with set notation
« on: September 22, 2021, 02:28:00 PM »
Yeah, looks good to me.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 22, 2021, 11:59:20 AM »
You mean benefit of society?
"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few."

Like the need for people to do drugs outweigh the needs of people to not have to deal with them.
The needs of the few who like to litter outweigh the needs of those who need the land to not be full of trash.
The needs of snowflakes who fear needles outweighs the health of society at large.
I am sure you don't have a goddamn clue what the word society means.

Thanks for reminding me I forgot to include you in the prior list.
A collection of individuals with shared goals and culture who work together for the benefit of the group as a whole.
Example: paying taxes so roads for everyone can be built.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 22, 2021, 11:22:00 AM »
And if you want to kill the power that lets Biden (or any president) do stuff like this, you're going to need to redo alot of things through congress because congress gave OSHA(and the president) this power back in the 70s.
While I don't disagree with the policy, this kind of power should not be in the hands of one man. Until America gets its shit together and starts having actual votes on such things, it cannot legitimately claim to be a modern democracy.
It was done in the 70s(one of them anyway) because regulations took too long to enact.  So they created OSHA and gave them the power to make rules and enforce said rules within a limited scope.  And as president, Biden directs OSHA.

Taking it away means regulations will need to be passed through congress before enacting.  And we all know how that goes...

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: September 22, 2021, 11:07:09 AM »
The entire US at least.

So if you are a crisis actor, how do we know you aren't lying about being a crisis actor?

His job is to be a crisis actor, stating that there's a crisis regarding too many crisis actors.

Lackie is a government anti-crisis actor. He is being paid tax dollars to hide the true nature of the pandemic.

Just like Trump, he knows what's really going on but he's part of the conspiracy to hide the truth.

This actually makes a lot of sense. It's far more plausible than that he actually believes what he posts.

How much are they paying you to be a fearmongering crisis actor, lackey?
I fail to see a fearful reaction in response to my posts.

Therefore, you must have made an error, as usual.

It's not for lack of trying. You probably don't even realize you're doing it though, being a puppet and all.

Seriously, on one side, you have a strong majority of health professionals urging people that the vaccine is safe and that the more people who get it the faster we will be able to put all these inconveniences that we're all being forced to live with behind us.

And then there's your side, desperately trying to convince everyone that the vaccine is dangerous and who knows what the long-term effects are and even crazy shit like people who are vaccinated are dying at higher rates than people who aren't. They are trying to convince people that they will be in mortal danger if they get the vaccine that is perfectly safe according to the medical and scientific consensus.

And somehow we're the fearmongers and crisis actors, lol. I have to say that (assuming you are serious, and who knows?) they screwed those strings in you pretty tight for you to still be going along with it.  :D
I have NEVER STATED the vaccine is dangerous.

Not once.

Appealing to numbers is your game when it suits you.

You, Rama, AATW, xasop, junker, will soon pay the price for your indolence.

The advocacy for the type of world in which we now live will soon force all to pay in ways which will be more uncomfortable for each of you in the end.

You mean benefit of society?
"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few."

Like the need for people to do drugs outweigh the needs of people to not have to deal with them.
The needs of the few who like to litter outweigh the needs of those who need the land to not be full of trash.
The needs of snowflakes who fear needles outweighs the health of society at large.

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