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Re: Are the American police out of control?
« Reply #620 on: August 30, 2022, 08:48:15 AM »
video of traffic stop
That appears to be a textbook case of poor training in how to NOT escalate a situation.  Maybe the driver would have been defiant in any case, but she asks the officer why she is being requested to get out of the truck and instead of simply saying that your license is suspended so I can not let you proceed to drive, the officer just escalates with "because I am telling you to".  Likewise for any other officers that were present.  They need to be trained to intervene if one of their own is going down a path they know is wrong.  I'm not saying any of that is easy.  Particularly the "our side" Vs "their side" mentality, but it does seem doable.

You seem to miss something:
Do they want to be nice?
There are cops who love the power.  Who joined just for the ability to have this authority over others.  No amount of training is gonna fix that.
Sure, and those (I'd guess/hope relatively few folks) need to be weeded out.

Good luck with that.
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Re: Are the American police out of control?
« Reply #621 on: August 30, 2022, 09:50:21 PM »
Arizona officer indicted for shooting dead a man in a wheelchair;

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Re: Are the American police out of control?
« Reply #622 on: August 31, 2022, 04:48:22 PM »
video of traffic stop
That appears to be a textbook case of poor training in how to NOT escalate a situation.  Maybe the driver would have been defiant in any case, but she asks the officer why she is being requested to get out of the truck and instead of simply saying that your license is suspended so I can not let you proceed to drive, the officer just escalates with "because I am telling you to".  Likewise for any other officers that were present.  They need to be trained to intervene if one of their own is going down a path they know is wrong.  I'm not saying any of that is easy.  Particularly the "our side" Vs "their side" mentality, but it does seem doable.

You seem to miss something:
Do they want to be nice?
There are cops who love the power.  Who joined just for the ability to have this authority over others.  No amount of training is gonna fix that.
Sure, and those (I'd guess/hope relatively few folks) need to be weeded out.

Good luck with that.
Thanks, what other choice do we have?

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Re: Are the American police out of control?
« Reply #623 on: August 31, 2022, 05:49:54 PM »
Twitter @erickbellomy

Police in Columbus, Ohio shot a sleeping (black) man, who was asleep in his own bed, within one second of opening the bedroom door. At 2.30am.

It's reported that police in Columbus have shot and killed three citizens in the last eight days, and left others critically ill after being shot.

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Re: Are the American police out of control?
« Reply #624 on: September 02, 2022, 09:58:26 AM »
Citizen hospitalised over (another) trivial matter

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Re: Are the American police out of control?
« Reply #625 on: September 03, 2022, 06:33:16 PM »
Twitter @erickbellomy
Tumeni, for the love of Bambi. Copy the link to the tweet and paste it here. It will display the tweet together with its source, so that people don't have to wonder whether you've made shit up every time you claim to have seen something.

Of course, in this case, you're talking about footage which was released by the authorities, illustrating that the checks and balances in place appear to be adequate. But it would be so refreshing if you provided this information yourself, rather than sending people on a wild goose chase with nothing but inflammatory and unsourced comments you farted out.
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Re: Are the American police out of control?
« Reply #626 on: September 04, 2022, 12:08:52 AM »
so that people don't have to wonder whether you've made shit up every time you claim to have seen something.

Nobody "wonders" that. Not even you.

If anyone apart from you does, just leave them to tell me.
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Re: Are the American police out of control?
« Reply #627 on: September 04, 2022, 12:41:59 AM »
so that people don't have to wonder whether you've made shit up every time you claim to have seen something.

Nobody "wonders" that. Not even you.

If anyone apart from you does, just leave them to tell me.
I am unsure if you know what the word, "nobody," means.
It's so hard to have faith in humanity when they do shit like this.

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Re: Are the American police out of control?
« Reply #628 on: September 04, 2022, 08:05:53 AM »
Nobody "wonders" that. Not even you.

If anyone apart from you does, just leave them to tell me.
Allow me to clarify. While you post here, you will follow basic netiquette. I explained what you need to do and why for your benefit. If you can't follow these simple steps, you will not post here.
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Re: Are the American police out of control?
« Reply #629 on: September 04, 2022, 09:03:16 AM »
so that people don't have to wonder whether you've made shit up every time you claim to have seen something.

Nobody "wonders" that. Not even you.

If anyone apart from you does, just leave them to tell me.
I am unsure if you know what the word, "nobody," means.
He knows, nemo.
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