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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Epipens and why they cost so much

« on: October 06, 2016, 09:21:33 AM »

http://nordic.businessinsider.com/medicaid-and-medicare-confirm-mylan-overcharged-them-2016-10?r=US&IR=T

Hey, look at that.

EpiPen costs $600 to normal people?  Sucks for them but we'll ask why anyway.
EpiPen makes the government lose money?  Suddenly they get mad.

Another reason why I'm so very happy to live in a country where shit like this doesn't happen.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: 26th September - 1st Presidential Debate

« on: October 05, 2016, 06:43:08 PM »

I have also claimed that Obama's birth certificate is fake which doesn't negate him being a natural born citizen.

It kinda does.  Why fake it otherwise?  No US birth certificate is going to list anything that would cause Obama issues.

Unless his true father is a communist America hater. I reccomend you watch "dreams of my real father" if you want the details.

Right.

Let me ask you something.  Honestly.
Are you your father?
Are your beliefs, manners, and entire personality and world views a mirror image of your father?  Are you, in essence, him?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Political compass

« on: October 05, 2016, 09:44:00 AM »

     






I've moved more liberal left in my old age.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: 2016 US Presidential Race

« on: October 05, 2016, 05:47:07 AM »

I welcome our time-traveling overlord Mike Pence.

No, just the gop.  Clearly they have a time machine.  Probably to fix the future, make right what will go wrong.



But seriously, if anyone thinks half the shit they read isn't prestaged, they're as delusional as a child on christmas thinking Santa came.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Superhero Movies & Comics General

« on: October 04, 2016, 11:12:29 AM »

No it's not.

I was amused.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Superhero Movies & Comics General

« on: October 04, 2016, 06:07:03 AM »

Superhero fight club.
Amusing trailer.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: 26th September - 1st Presidential Debate

« on: October 04, 2016, 04:50:19 AM »

I have also claimed that Obama's birth certificate is fake which doesn't negate him being a natural born citizen.

It kinda does.  Why fake it otherwise?  No US birth certificate is going to list anything that would cause Obama issues.

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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Forum style adjustment suggestion: make [b] a bit bolder

« on: October 03, 2016, 03:48:01 PM »

This is a bold test.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Congress rejects Obama veto on 9/11 bill; first override of his presidency

« on: October 03, 2016, 08:33:49 AM »

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2016/09/29/white-house-congress-has-buyers-remorse-after-overriding-obama-veto/91289856/

Whoops?

I especially like how McConnel blamed Obama anyway.  "I don't want to blame him but... He should have told us the problems sooner...so its his fault, really."

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: 26th September - 1st Presidential Debate

« on: October 02, 2016, 10:41:17 AM »

Trump himself said Obama was born in the US.

I don't think any source you put out, Luke, is going to be reputable after that.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: 26th September - 1st Presidential Debate

« on: October 01, 2016, 05:50:40 AM »

Implicit bias from society.  I see a black man and my first reaction is fear.  No other reason than "he looks scary".  Everyone has such things about some race.  It's simply due to society implanting these ideas in our heads.

Please see the definition of racism. If you literally think you're superior to a black person simply because of their skin, then yes, you're racist.
If you're scared of a skulking black dude in a hoodie on an urban street in the middle of the night - then you're just protecting yourself. I'd be scared of a white dude in the same situation.

If you're literally scared of every black person you encounter then that might be a you thing and not an everybody thing.

I'm mostly referring to the bias like I see a black man and immediately watch them closely or will more quickly assume they're up to something wrong vs a white man or even a woman.  Less superior and more less innocent or negative assumptions.

No, I mean, why them and not someone else.  Let's say you can help one person.  What makes them so special?  Just because they live next to you?  If that's the case then it's out of your own self interest, isn't it?  By being good/nice/helping to them, they either accept you in some social circle or help/be good to you back.

You're taking "neighbor" too literally. Anyone that you personally know you can help. For most people, that's gonna be someone who lives near you geographically because you actually interact with them and would know when/if they need help. It could be your coworkers, someone you see having car troubles on the side of the road, or a woman at the grocery store (ie the people around you).

Which is why I've repeatedly backed this up by saying if you are able to help out people across the world then go for it.
I can't even fathom why you're arguing against doing small acts of kindness and treating people with respect on a daily basis. I'm not arguing against doing grand things, I'm simply saying that you should at least strive to be a good person to the people around you.

Yeah, this was a really dick thing for me to say and argue.  I was snapping at everyone.  Lack of good sleep over long periods of time does that to me.  So, sorry for being a dick.  You're right, of course.

I dunno.  Same reason I might go to Alabama?

You do know the Smoky Mountains are fucking gorgeous right? And there's a ton of historical and just plain beautiful landmarks in the South, plus the food here is bomb af. We have New Orleans, Savannah GA, Gatlinburg TN, Disney World, the Appalachian Trail, etc. People come from all over the world to see the South. Not to mention, people from out of town honestly do say how nice everyone is here. But none of these things will ever take you to government housing.

I'm not one for nature, personally.  Plus, now that I live in Norway, I've got nature all over.  I'm in a "technology city" and it's still got enough forest around it to get lost for days in.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: 26th September - 1st Presidential Debate

« on: September 30, 2016, 02:24:17 PM »

Everyone's racist.

What are you talking about?

Implicit bias from society.  I see a black man and my first reaction is fear.  No other reason than "he looks scary".  Everyone has such things about some race.  It's simply due to society implanting these ideas in our heads. 

And why just your neighbor?  Why not someone from across town?  Across state?  The world?  Why should we care about the people living within 500 feet vs people living far away?

Um, because most people aren't financially able to do anything about those people. If you consider the world your neighbor and you can feed and educate them all, then fucking go for it.
I was trying to be realistic but apparently you want to be an idealist that hasn't personally accomplished anything himself. Unless you're housing orphans or feeding a village in Africa that we don't know about?

No, I mean, why them and not someone else.  Let's say you can help one person.  What makes them so special?  Just because they live next to you?  If that's the case then it's out of your own self interest, isn't it?  By being good/nice/helping to them, they either accept you in some social circle or help/be good to you back.

Fear was keeping me out of ghettos, not the south.

Ok.. well I was referring to the South in general. Why would you go to the ghetto? And by ghetto - I'm literally referring to government housing.

I dunno.  Same reason I might go to Alabama?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: 26th September - 1st Presidential Debate

« on: September 30, 2016, 01:51:17 PM »

lol

Then I guess you don't understand what "be good to people" means. Obviously don't let yourself be a spineless twit, but don't be racist, an asshole alt-right, or a hateful libtard. Just help out your neighbor if/when you can and treat them with kindness. Treat people with respect and your kids will learn from your example, then so on and so forth.

The South is actually quite lovely, you're missing out on a lot if you let fear driven media make your choices. Just don't live next to the ghetto, be in the city alone at night, or expect the drivers to be any decent. But hey - I've done all those things and I'm fine.

Everyone's racist.
And why just your neighbor?  Why not someone from across town?  Across state?  The world?  Why should we care about the people living within 500 feet vs people living far away?

Fear was keeping me out of ghettos, not the south.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: 26th September - 1st Presidential Debate

« on: September 30, 2016, 01:37:51 PM »

Ah, good. Finally Lord Dave is seeing the cynical moderate approach.

Also, there was never anything you could do to help. Even if you think blacks are being killed at high numbers, all you can really do is be good to the people around you and raise your kids to do the same.

Apathy.  Is that really the solution?

I think you missed something.

That's not apathy, it's understanding your place in the world and what actually changes things. Riots and acting on your ignorant feelings doesn't do anything.
Also, as a Southern American, it's a poverty issue and not a racial one. Ghettos are everywhere and it's full of uneducated and violent humans that happen to be mostly black. I honestly am not even sure you can really understand that until you spend some time here.

I didn't miss it.  I'm just wondering what the point is.  If you're nice, you just get taken advantage of by the system, society, or just plain killed.  I've been nice and look at me? 

And you're probably right.  I doubt I'll truly understand it without going there.  And I don't want to be there for any length of time because of what I've heard.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: 26th September - 1st Presidential Debate

« on: September 30, 2016, 01:03:15 PM »

Ah, good. Finally Lord Dave is seeing the cynical moderate approach.

Also, there was never anything you could do to help. Even if you think blacks are being killed at high numbers, all you can really do is be good to the people around you and raise your kids to do the same.

Apathy.  Is that really the solution?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Congress rejects Obama veto on 9/11 bill; first override of his presidency

« on: September 30, 2016, 01:00:34 PM »

Want an honest answer?

I'm just making it up as I go.  I do, honestly believe this is a stupid law.  I do, honestly believe this will cause more harm than good.  I do, honestly believe that it's being voted on now and unanimously simply because of politics and not because it makes sense.

No, I don't really think it's a "take down Hillary" plot.  But I am right: Any negative consequences that occur will be blamed on the sitting president by the opposite party.

Though I am likely wrong since I can't trust anything I know about this law.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: 26th September - 1st Presidential Debate

« on: September 30, 2016, 12:52:37 PM »

I see...


Well, there goes my opinion.  So with this new data I must conclude:
I can trust no one.  Not the media, not social media, not even myself.  Everyone has the potential to manipulate their data set to fit their agenda, myself included.

Thus, there is no way for me to come to an educated conclusion anymore about any subject as there is no way for me to verify any of the data.  Not even that database you posted.  Like, for example, those numbers are very convincing.  Whites have died far more often than blacks: 330 to 174 respectively.  But that's not in line with population percentage.  At 12% of the US population they account for 24% of all police shootings.  So it's pretty clear that something else is the cause of such deaths.

But that's impossible to determine since everything is manipulated.  I don't even trust what I just wrote. 

I guess what I'm saying is:
I have no counter argument and have decided to just ignore the whole situation.  I can't do anything.  I can't help.  I can't even determine what (or if) there's a problem.  So why should I bother?  I'll just sit here and drink tea.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Congress rejects Obama veto on 9/11 bill; first override of his presidency

« on: September 30, 2016, 12:24:02 PM »

Not as much as those who have to run for reelection.

Well, then we agree that Obama is callous, clueless, and a big asset to the Trump campaign. I guess we're not so different after all.

Or, you know, actually doing what should be done and not voting based on some other agenda.

This bill does nothing productive.  It's the equivalent of suing the parents of the guy who murdered your loved one on the grounds that they gave him some money when he asked for it.  I mean, answer me: Why was this bill put to vote NOW?  During an election year (and less than 3 months from said election)?
It certainly wasn't to give those victims "justice".  No, it's done purely for political reasons.

And since the sitting president is ALWAYS blamed when shit goes wrong (regardless of who is responsible), guess who gets to take the fall?  Whoever wins in November.

Meanwhile, Obama will chillax in Hawaii, smiling at the reporters and saying "Hey, I vetoed that shit.  Don't blame me."  And there's nothing anyone can honestly say against it.  He vetoed it.  He opposed it.  He didn't cave to political pressure. 

So if you want to say he's callous, fine.  Means he can make the hard choices.  And it beats the paper thin skin of Donald Trump.  Man can't even keep his cool in a debate.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: 26th September - 1st Presidential Debate

« on: September 30, 2016, 09:25:20 AM »

Yes. BLM are, of course, worse than other racists, since they much more frequently loot and pillage towns which are already struggling with poverty.

I'd say angry people but sure, why not.  Cops kill unarmed people all the time, regardless of race.  Remember when that little white kid was shot to death when he waved that toy gun?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Congress rejects Obama veto on 9/11 bill; first override of his presidency

« on: September 30, 2016, 09:23:00 AM »

And Obama is in his last year.  What the fuck does he care about opinion polls?

His polls directly affect the Democratic party. Unless you're suggesting that Obama is stupid and/or a Trump shill, he most likely cares about his PR.

Not as much as those who have to run for reelection.