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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: There is no LGBT agenda within the government.

« on: June 02, 2023, 09:16:59 PM »

I only looked at the last link.
Boy is that misleading.

1. A sex-ed class talking about anal sex and why its pleasurable along side vaginal sex and why its pleasurable go hand in hand.  Plus, it works for pegging.  Ya know, woman fucking a man analy with a strapon?

2. Sex toys.  Yes, they exist.  Highschoolers already know about them.  Why are you shocked its part of the curriculum on sex ed in high school?  What, you think they should teach "when you marry a woman, have yourself hlget a hard penis then out it into her vagina until you feel stuff come out.  Ok, class done."?

I'll have to read the others later.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 31, 2023, 03:12:36 PM »

So apparently Trump's day 1 promise is to invalidate the constitution with an executive order.


So.... Fun!

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 27, 2023, 10:37:29 PM »

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/05/25/trump-classified-documents-mar-a-lago/

This is all perfectly normal, legal, and safe.  As a document storage place, you need emergency drills to move top secret dociments to a more secure location in the event of invasion.  Its like a fire drill, really.  So its a good thing that Trump is showing the dedication and responsibility necessary to have classified documents at his home.  Did Biden do that?  No.  He had them in a garage where no one even knew they were there! 

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 26, 2023, 10:08:46 PM »

It's like no one here paid attention at all. Trump was the best thing to happen in politics.

https://twitter.com/stclairashley/status/1662167616243236866

??
The same Foreign Policy where a giant novalty card about how great he is, convinced Trump to give Kim Jong Un whatever he wanted while getting nothing in return?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: There is no LGBT agenda within the government.

« on: May 25, 2023, 03:54:42 PM »

I'm not at all convinced that the notion is "incredibly popular", or even popular at all. It sounds to me like you're mistaking seeing lots of posts on social media expressing that viewpoint for the viewpoint being common.

Please remember that SoMe is extremely unrepresentative of the population, with some voices being artificially amplified or suppressed. This isn't even necessarily intentional - it's just that emotive posting attracts responses, and the recommendation algorithms like engagement.

Plus facebook has a "show only related posts" by default so half the time you can't see a reply unless you scrooolll back, select it, then search for the post again.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: There is no LGBT agenda within the government.

« on: May 25, 2023, 09:15:32 AM »

I agree with Action.

The adgenda exists and its fairly simple:
Stop the hate on minority groups.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 21, 2023, 06:06:07 PM »

They put homosexuals in jail

Homosexuality has been legal in Russia since 1993. Very accurate information from you, just like everything you say...

But since I'm willing to bet any amount that you weren't even alive back then, I'll give you a pass on that one.

While technically true, its not a well upheld law.
And being gay has no legal protections from hate or prejudice.  Ie. You can be fired for being gay.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 20, 2023, 08:36:44 PM »

WTF?
Last I saw, Trump had his base of 30% and thats it.

When will you finally learn that Trump cannot be stumped?

When he dies and is ressurected as a zombie and still has high polling numbers.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 20, 2023, 05:58:05 PM »

WTF?
Last I saw, Trump had his base of 30% and thats it.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 20, 2023, 05:18:37 PM »

While it's still too early to take polls seriously, the fact that Biden is currently neck and neck with Trump in general election polls shows that he does in fact stand a chance of winning. The absolute biggest mistake Democrats can make in 2024 is the one they made in 2016: that the Democrat winning the election is a foregone conclusion. The absolute certainty of Trump being unelectable is what made him electable.

I'm sorry.... What?  Neck and neck?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 20, 2023, 09:25:33 AM »

It's remarkable how often I see conservatives and MAGA types share that clip as a jab at the supposed liberal media establishment, apparently not realizing that it was a conservative media organization that was pushing a conservative agenda. Elon Musk himself tried to frame it that way about a month ago.

On the notion of Trump's VP, it won't be MTG (who is in the House btw, not the Senate) or his kids. Beyond the fact that, like Dave pointed out, Trump wouldn't want anyone getting the attention that he views as rightfully his, what would be the point of it strategically? Nobody who wasn't already going to vote for Trump beforehand will be persuaded by a mini-Trump joining the ticket. As for needing someone he can control, well, I think the fact Mike Pence's presidential aspirations were utterly destroyed and his political career was reduced to a footnote in the space of a single afternoon after he failed to play along with Trump's efforts to overturn the election are all the control Trump needs. It'll almost certainly be another be traditional Republican in an effort to make Trump more palatable to non-MAGA conservatives, and no matter how outwardly respectable they might be, we can be sure that they won't repeat Pence's mistake. No matter what outrageous, illegal, or dangerous stunt Trump tries to pull, they'll back him all the way, and so will the rest of the party.

I'm actually curious who'd agree to do it.  Like, after Pence, anyone who take that kind of risk?  Trump has thrown EVERYONE under the bus.  His AGs, his press secrataries, his VP, etc...
Plus he has little chance of winning.

Who would be dumb enough to destroy their political career just to fail at being VP?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 18, 2023, 10:28:35 PM »

If Trump wins the nomination then I wonder who he will choose as his running mate. His supporters tried to hang Pence, so I think we can be reasonably certain he won't be the choice for 2024.

He'll choose one of his kids.  Easy to control. And they've already been in the white house.

Don't count out MTG. That chick is sharp, she's going places.

Nah.  She's too useful on the senate floor.  Plus, Trump would hate having someone whose just as media noted as him.  He'd have to fight for the insanity spotlight daily with MTG.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 18, 2023, 09:21:48 PM »

If Trump wins the nomination then I wonder who he will choose as his running mate. His supporters tried to hang Pence, so I think we can be reasonably certain he won't be the choice for 2024.

He'll choose one of his kids.  Easy to control. And they've already been in the white house.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 15, 2023, 07:52:29 AM »

Why is anyone arguing sentence vs judgement? Tom's post made it clear that while both are technically correct for civil and criminal cases, sentence usually is used for criminal cases and judgement for civil cases.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 13, 2023, 03:15:07 PM »

Rape or sexual assault.  Define the difference.

Rape = non-consensual intercourse.
Sexual assault = non-consensual everything else.

Exactly.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 13, 2023, 01:12:59 PM »

You're never going to find the "perfect" rape victim whose every action seems entirely sound and natural from a detached perspective. A determined skeptic will always be able to find at least something that seems odd about their behavior, whether it be them laughing about it, joking about it, going out with friends shortly afterwards, going on a date shortly afterwards, and so on. Everyone processes that kind of experience differently.

Ah yes, a rape victim so imperfect, with so many red flags and contradictions, that a court rejected her claim of rape.

Rape or sexual assault.  Define the difference.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 11, 2023, 06:21:39 AM »

As I understand it, defermation requires you to prove the defendant intentionally tried to damage the person's character with statements that are either untrue, or have no business being stated even if factual.

So like, if I say you're gay in an attempt to destroy your career, it doesn't matter if you are gay or not, just that I wanted to destroy your career.

Outside of one utterly batshit ruling from a court in Massachusetts some years ago, truth is universally recognized as an absolute defense to defamation in the United States.

I'm not verse on what Trump said about her but if he decides to hold a press conference and state how ugly she is, that might count.

No, because that would be an opinion. You can't sue someone for expressing a negative opinion.

Good to know.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 10, 2023, 04:42:06 AM »

I'm shocked.

Defermation has a high bar.  As I understand it, defermation requires you to prove the defendant intentionally tried to damage the person's character with statements that are either untrue, or have no business being stated even if factual.

So like, if I say you're gay in an attempt to destroy your career, it doesn't matter if you are gay or not, just that I wanted to destroy your career.

I'm not verse on what Trump said about her but if he decides to hold a press conference and state how ugly she is, that might count.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 07, 2023, 06:18:42 PM »

The entire Trump "rape case" is a national embarrassment. An enormous piece of the American pie now has a terminal case of grasping at straws. Some old woman says Trump raped her. That's it. That's all she has. She says it happened. I could say Trump raped me and I would have precisely the same amount of evidence that she has. Then if Trump says "no, I didn't" I can sue him for defaming my very valuable name! I will now sue him!

The sad fact is that people want what this woman says to be true. They don't care how much or how little evidence she has. They just want Trump to have to give her money because it would embarrass him. I would say that people want to be able to call him a rapist, but they'll do that regardless of the outcome of the case. It's making a mockery of the American court system. As Mitch McConnell has warned these sorts of people before: you'll regret this, and you may regret it a lot sooner than you think.

With Trump, it could be he did or didn't.  But her word alone, especially that she went about her day, doesn't strike me as emotionally damaging.  So I'm not sure it happened.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 06, 2023, 11:01:46 AM »

Well that deposition might change things lol. I don't know what his chances of losing were before but I think they at least went up after that shit show.

What depisition?