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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: Today at 08:28:49 PM »
But Donald Trump is separate under Citrix.  Citrix is a security software.

Interesting, no?
No, not very interesting.  Citrix is virtualization software, not necessarily security software.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: Today at 12:55:02 AM »
The Constitution doesn't say whether it can be taken away or not. Anything not in the Constitution is for the government to decide. It also doesn't say that Citizenship is a right, like the right to free speech and the right to bare arms. If it were a right it would have been explicitly described that way with the other rights. Instead, it merely outlines who qualifies for citizenship.
Perhaps you should take another gander at the 14th amendment:
Fourteenth Amendment

Section 1

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

It says that if you're born in the US, then you are a citizen.  That sounds like a right to me.  On the other hand, citizenship through immigration is a privilege that can be revoked under certain conditions.  If the constitution doesn't say that birthright citizenship can be revoked, then you shouldn't assume that it can.

This whole Rosie O'Donnell nonsense is just that, nonsense.  It's just another attempt to distract from the Epstein fiasco.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 14, 2025, 06:15:26 PM »
The keyword is that someone is granted citenship.
Citizenship is a right granted by the constitution, therefore only the constitution can revoke citizenship.  Please show me where the constitution outlines the process for revoking citizenship.

Further, a US Citizen can choose to give up their US Citizenship, proving that citizenship isn't absolute. If it were absolute you would not be able to give it up.
Being able to give up a right is not the same as having that right taken away.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 14, 2025, 03:12:29 PM »
I've read the Constitution. It's not that long. It says who gets citizenship. It doesn't say that anyone specifically has a right to keep their citizenship, or that it can't be stripped away from them. There is nothing about "must be kept" or "must be maintained". This would go to the Supreme Court.
Actually, it has gone before the Supreme Court in the birthright citizenship case. You know, Trump’s challenge to the 14th amendment.

While you’re reading the Constitution, please point out where revoking citizenship is a power granted to the president in particular or the executive branch in general.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 14, 2025, 02:49:57 PM »
Sorry, but Trump does not have the power to unilaterally revoke someone’s citizenship.  It’s a constitutionally guaranteed right, not a privilege that can be taken away. Then again, we all know how Trump feels about the constitution.
If you are a U.S. citizen because of having been born in the United States, you can give up your U.S. citizenship by performing certain acts, but the U.S. government can’t just take it away from you. Citizenship is yours for life.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Now Playing
« on: July 11, 2025, 01:20:36 AM »

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Terrible Political Memes
« on: July 08, 2025, 09:14:43 PM »

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 08, 2025, 09:08:34 PM »
Trump has had multiple affairs. He’s been adjudicated to be a rapist.
But none of that happened while Trump was in office (as far as we know), so none of it counts.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 07, 2025, 12:27:57 AM »
It is Democrats who are extremely dissatisfied with their party, not Republicans.
False dichotomy.  From what I can tell, people on both sides are varying levels of dissatisfied with their parties.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 01, 2025, 05:16:36 PM »
Is it just me, or does anyone else think that whoever bought a copy of The Art Of The Deal should demand a refund?

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Now Playing
« on: June 30, 2025, 01:04:31 AM »

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 27, 2025, 10:31:01 PM »
"Obliterated" or not, unless the enriched uranium has been vapourised, it may still exist in some form.
Again, with all of the advance warning, it's fairly likely that the stockpile of enriched uranium was moved as well.  The centrifuges might be a different story.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 27, 2025, 08:59:47 PM »
From the above PBS article:

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The Israeli military also confirmed it struck roads around Iran’s Fordo enrichment facility to obstruct access to the site.

They took out the roads to prevent emergency responders from trying to help people who may have been trapped or dying in the rubble. This is reprehensible, and likely a war crime. Attacking the survivors of a bombing is distinctly different than the bombing of the infrastructure itself.
But the site was obliterated, according to Trump.  Shouldn't have BEEN survivors.  And if Israel just wanted to kill anyone who tried to assess damage just because they can... yeah, that's a war crime.
Trump had been talking about the strike for days, so the site was most likely already evacuated, therefore it's doubtful that anybody was trapped or dying in the rubble.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 27, 2025, 05:19:21 PM »
But Trump said they did.  Hit that site and obliterated it. 
Trump also said that there was a cease fire.  Apparently neither side got the memo.

Then Israel hits the same spot again.
The article said that they hit the roads going to that spot, among other targets.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 27, 2025, 01:46:03 PM »
Oh hey, something we all missed.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/israel-hits-iranian-government-targets-day-after-u-s-strikes-on-iranian-nuclear-sites

Apparently, Israel wanted to attack an already obliterated site.  Weird, right?  Almost like Trump is lying about how much damage was done.  Probably why he's blocking congress from seeing the reports.
Or, maybe the US and other previous strikes didn’t take out every possible target. 

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 26, 2025, 08:39:30 PM »
Before too long, they might have to start letting the illegals in again so that they have someone to deport.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Now Playing
« on: June 24, 2025, 12:41:35 AM »

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 20, 2025, 12:57:55 PM »
Tom, when it comes to polls, remember that there are 3 kinds of lies in this world: lies, damned lies, and statistics.   Polls definitely fall into the third category.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Terrible Political Memes
« on: June 20, 2025, 12:27:04 AM »



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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 15, 2025, 07:05:54 PM »
I do have criticisms about Trump...
You do?  Would you care to share some of them?

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