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Social Justice Anti-Holocaust Denial Hypocrisy
« on: June 11, 2018, 05:53:45 PM »
I tend to dislike people who have moral outrage over Holocause denialism. They regularly call for laws to limit freedom of speech, and regularly call for prosecution of anyone who dares to question the official story on grounds of 'hate speech'. In a number of European countries there are laws that will send you to prison if you question any part of the story of the Holocaust.

The leading groups are themselves denying what happened during the Holocaust:

From the Holocaust Remembrance Alliance:

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Working Definition of Holocaust Denial and Distortion

The present definition is an expression of the awareness that Holocaust denial and distortion have to be challenged and denounced nationally and internationally and need examination at a global level.  IHRA hereby adopts the following legally non-binding working definition as its working tool.

Holocaust denial is discourse and propaganda that deny the historical reality and the extent of the extermination of the Jews by the Nazis and their accomplices during World War II, known as the Holocaust or the Shoah. Holocaust denial refers specifically to any attempt to claim that the Holocaust/Shoah did not take place.

From the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum:

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WHAT IS HOLOCAUST DENIAL?
 
The Holocaust is one of the best documented events in history. “Holocaust denial” describes attempts to negate the established facts of the Nazi genocide of European Jewry. Common denial assertions are: that the murder of six million Jews during World War II never occurred; that the Nazis had no official policy or intention to exterminate the Jews; and that the poison gas chambers in Auschwitz-Birkenau death camp never existed.

However, it is wildly known that the actual number of deaths were 6 million Jews, plus 11 million others:

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/27/holocaust-non-jewish-victims_n_6555604.html

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the Nazis targeted many other groups: for their race, beliefs or what they did.

Historians estimate the total number of deaths to be 11 million, with the victims encompassing gay people, priests, gypsies, people with mental or physical disabilities, communists, trade unionists, Jehovah’s Witnesses, anarchists, Poles and other Slavic peoples, and resistance fighters.

The Holocaust Victims page on Wikipedia portrays Jews as a minority of the Holocaust victims: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_victims

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Victims   Killed
Jews   5-6 million
Poles   1.8–3 million
Soviet Slavs   6 million
Soviet POWs   2.8–3.3 million
Serbs   300,000–600,000   
Disabled   270,000
Romani   130,000–500,000   
Freemasons   80,000–200,000
Slovenes   20,000–25,000
Homosexuals   5,000–15,000
Jehovah's Witnesses   1,250–5,000
Spanish Republicans   7,000

Hypocrytes. Why don't they give a crap about other races? If you explore the pages  of the leading groups it is 99% about the Holocaust and Jews, with perhaps a very brief one sentence mention of "and other races" buried in the material.
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Re: Social Justice anti-Holocaust Denial Hypocrisy
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2018, 07:37:48 PM »
It's a combination of factors:

A lot of Europeans still hate gays and gypsies.

Many huge international media outlets are owned by Jews, and so they over-emphasize their own plight versus the plight of others.

Israel and the political atmosphere around it requires a greater concentration of coverage. "If you don't like Israel, it's just because you're literally Hitler!"

We constantly see people on the lookout for Fascism because it caused the Holocaust. We don't really see that same anti-communist and anti-socialist agenda, despite the latter two having a kill count that makes the Holocaust look like a theme park. This is, again, because of a very left-leaning media attempting to frame the narrative against their ideological enemies, rather than actual sympathy for atrocities.
 

Re: Social Justice Anti-Holocaust Denial Hypocrisy
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2018, 07:19:14 AM »
To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you aren't allowed to criticize.

Many huge international media outlets are owned by Jews, and so they over-emphasize their own plight versus the plight of others.

Shut it down right now!!!
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Re: Social Justice anti-Holocaust Denial Hypocrisy
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2018, 08:15:35 AM »
It's a combination of factors:

A lot of Europeans still hate gays and gypsies.

Many huge international media outlets are owned by Jews, and so they over-emphasize their own plight versus the plight of others.

Israel and the political atmosphere around it requires a greater concentration of coverage. "If you don't like Israel, it's just because you're literally Hitler!"

We constantly see people on the lookout for Fascism because it caused the Holocaust. We don't really see that same anti-communist and anti-socialist agenda, despite the latter two having a kill count that makes the Holocaust look like a theme park. This is, again, because of a very left-leaning media attempting to frame the narrative against their ideological enemies, rather than actual sympathy for atrocities.


Also, its easier to focus on one group than many.

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Re: Social Justice Anti-Holocaust Denial Hypocrisy
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2018, 12:38:31 PM »
To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you aren't allowed to criticize.

Very original. You can criticize anyone you want.
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Re: Social Justice Anti-Holocaust Denial Hypocrisy
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2018, 03:14:01 AM »
To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you aren't allowed to criticize.

Very original. You can criticize anyone you want.

True. However some people you can go to jail for criticizing. Jewish people, for example.

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/anti-bds-legislation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_requiring_teaching_of_the_Holocaust

Not allowed =/= unable.