Re: Are IP addresses personally identifiable?
« Reply #20 on: May 11, 2018, 04:11:02 PM »
I also use Cloudflare for my DNS instead of google or my ISP.

CloudFlare's DNS provides no advantages over your ISP's DNS if your ISP really wants to spy on you.
Cloudflare is certainly faster.

Cloudflare delete all records within 24 hours ... my ISP doesn't.

When I want to watch naked ladies my ISP blocks it. I need to get added to a list to activate pron. I'm not telling my ISP that I'm a pervert. Its none of their business. I have Opera browser with its built in VPN specifically for adult entertainment. Somehow the combination of using a VPN AND changing my DNS prevents all efforts by my ISP to stop me enjoying some alone time. Doing either by themselves isn't enough and triggers the parental shield thing they enable as standard.

So how much my ISP knows about what I watch I don't know. Maybe they still can see ... but it is odd that they wouldn't then be able to stop me doing so by not serving me the site. They are very aggressive about stopping me from going blind. You can't get onto TORs website, you can't go to tunnel bear ... they block most VPN download sites, as well as pron, to stop you doing what I do and bypassing their filters. They can't stop you downloading Opera ... I'm always one step ahead of the puritans at Sky.
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Re: Are IP addresses personally identifiable?
« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2018, 04:20:19 PM »
I'm not telling my ISP that I'm a pervert. Its none of their business.

So instead you tell the Flat Earth Society. Thork logic.

Also yes, a VPN would prevent your ISP from seeing your DNS lookups, but you didn't mention that before.
How the hell am I supposed to be a moron if I keep educating myself?  >:(

Re: Are IP addresses personally identifiable?
« Reply #22 on: May 11, 2018, 04:29:17 PM »
The Flat Earth Society isn't going to be asked by my government to serve data on citizens.

I don't know what the laws will be like in 30 years time. 30 years ago you could tell your secretary you'd like to shaft her in the stationary cupboard. Today she can now tell the police and you can be prosecuted for it. How do I know in 30 years they won't fine/prosecute/freeze assets of people retrospectively for watching something they deem illegal in the future? What if in 10 years I want to run for my local council ... and my ISP hands over my browsing history to a newspaper?

... you ended up answering my query. I suspected they couldn't see the dark side of my sexual appetite. The thought of being watched whilst I'm tugging my piggy would really break my rhythm.
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Re: Are IP addresses personally identifiable?
« Reply #23 on: May 11, 2018, 06:20:37 PM »
Wwwaaaiiiiitttt...




Your ISP blocks porn sites and TOR?


Damn.

Re: Are IP addresses personally identifiable?
« Reply #24 on: May 11, 2018, 06:33:10 PM »
So, after consulting with another UK citizen its not the law to block porn.  So either you are wrong or your isp is shit.

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Re: Are IP addresses personally identifiable?
« Reply #25 on: May 11, 2018, 06:36:30 PM »
So, after consulting with another UK citizen its not the law to block porn.  So either you are wrong or your isp is shit.
Many mobile providers do block access to adult websites until you prove to them that you're over 18. I'm not too sure of the current legal situation, but there is a strong push to force porn websites accessible in the UK to actually confirm your age before granting access.
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Re: Are IP addresses personally identifiable?
« Reply #26 on: May 11, 2018, 07:05:28 PM »
I owe you an applogy, Thork.


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Re: Are IP addresses personally identifiable?
« Reply #27 on: May 12, 2018, 08:42:03 PM »
No, obviously.
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Re: Are IP addresses personally identifiable?
« Reply #28 on: August 26, 2018, 02:10:21 AM »

Cloudflare is certainly faster.

Somehow the combination of using a VPN AND changing my DNS prevents all efforts by my ISP to stop me enjoying some alone time. Doing either by themselves isn't enough and triggers the parental shield thing they enable as standard.


Typically you would think the VPN would be enough, but if it's not, that could mean the VPN isn't configured to be fully routable. In other words, when you do a DNS lookup, you are still hitting your ISP rather than the DNS of the VPN. You can probably do an nslookup and see what DNS server you hit. From the sound of it, I'm guessing you already know this though...
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Re: Are IP addresses personally identifiable?
« Reply #29 on: August 26, 2018, 02:20:11 AM »
Regarding IP addresses as PII... Practically speaking, if you can put an IP with a second form of ID like a first and last name, it's PII. However, it isn't officially mentioned as a form of PII, but the tech world and the internet is one of the least regulated entities out there, so I'm guessing nobody has thought to formally include that in the PII guidelines. As for me, if you know my IP (and I know some of you can find out), and you've been paying attention to my posts, you can likely ID me with a quick google search.

Thork brings up a really good (and scary) point that you don't know what the laws will be in 30 years... You used to be able to get away with saying some shit or doing some shit you later regretted or was unconventional, but now, if you put it out there it stays.
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Re: Are IP addresses personally identifiable?
« Reply #30 on: August 26, 2018, 02:25:30 AM »
Furthermore (and this is REALLY scary), with IPv6, it's theoretically possible in 30 years, everyone will be given their own IP address from birth. Sort of like a SSN, or other forms of ID used across the world. Whenever you get online, you are marked with your own IP.
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Re: Are IP addresses personally identifiable?
« Reply #31 on: August 26, 2018, 03:17:06 AM »
Furthermore (and this is REALLY scary), with IPv6, it's theoretically possible in 30 years, everyone will be given their own IP address from birth. Sort of like a SSN, or other forms of ID used across the world. Whenever you get online, you are marked with your own IP.

That isn't how IPv6 works, and it couldn't be made to work in that way without a major overhaul of routing infrastructure.
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Re: Are IP addresses personally identifiable?
« Reply #32 on: August 26, 2018, 03:31:30 AM »
Furthermore (and this is REALLY scary), with IPv6, it's theoretically possible in 30 years, everyone will be given their own IP address from birth. Sort of like a SSN, or other forms of ID used across the world. Whenever you get online, you are marked with your own IP.

That isn't how IPv6 works, and it couldn't be made to work in that way without a major overhaul of routing infrastructure.

I am aware how networking infrastructure works, and you are correct. However, we are talking about 30 years here....
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Re: Are IP addresses personally identifiable?
« Reply #33 on: August 26, 2018, 07:18:23 AM »
Furthermore (and this is REALLY scary), with IPv6, it's theoretically possible in 30 years, everyone will be given their own IP address from birth. Sort of like a SSN, or other forms of ID used across the world. Whenever you get online, you are marked with your own IP.

That isn't how IPv6 works, and it couldn't be made to work in that way without a major overhaul of routing infrastructure.

I am aware how networking infrastructure works, and you are correct. However, we are talking about 30 years here....


Yes, because network routing infrastructure has changed so radically in the last 30 years...


Re: Are IP addresses personally identifiable?
« Reply #34 on: August 26, 2018, 10:21:51 AM »
Furthermore (and this is REALLY scary), with IPv6, it's theoretically possible in 30 years, everyone will be given their own IP address from birth. Sort of like a SSN, or other forms of ID used across the world. Whenever you get online, you are marked with your own IP.

That isn't how IPv6 works, and it couldn't be made to work in that way without a major overhaul of routing infrastructure.

I am aware how networking infrastructure works, and you are correct. However, we are talking about 30 years here....


Yes, because network routing infrastructure has changed so radically in the last 30 years...

Pardon me, but what do you think the implementation of IPv6 was meant for? It was well known that it would ultimately require an overhaul of all networking devices to accomplish a full implementation.
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Re: Are IP addresses personally identifiable?
« Reply #35 on: August 26, 2018, 10:39:26 AM »
Now before y'all get carried away slamming me with rebutles, I just looked at the numbers and there aren't enough possible addresses with IPv6 for our current population anyway... However, what about a 1024 bit addressing scheme?
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Re: Are IP addresses personally identifiable?
« Reply #36 on: August 26, 2018, 10:47:35 AM »
Dammit. I got a new computer some months ago and forgot to switch to cloudfare. This reminded me. Suddenly my browser is much more responsive.

Remembering every setting you have for everything when you get a new computer is such a ball ache. I typically keep a computer for 3 years ... you just forget over time.
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Re: Are IP addresses personally identifiable?
« Reply #37 on: August 26, 2018, 12:57:36 PM »
Now before y'all get carried away slamming me with rebutles, I just looked at the numbers and there aren't enough possible addresses with IPv6 for our current population anyway...

The host portion of a /64 alone has enough addresses for everyone on the planet two billion times over. We will run out of MAC addresses long before IPv6 addresses. I would recommend enrolling in a mathematics course at your local community college.
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Re: Are IP addresses personally identifiable?
« Reply #38 on: August 26, 2018, 01:04:49 PM »
Now before y'all get carried away slamming me with rebutles, I just looked at the numbers and there aren't enough possible addresses with IPv6 for our current population anyway...

The host portion of a /64 alone has enough addresses for everyone on the planet two billion times over. We will run out of MAC addresses long before IPv6 addresses. I would recommend enrolling in a mathematics course at your local community college.

Lol, I thought 4 billion sounded low. I admit I googled it and misread.... I guess posting 5 minutes after I wake up is a bad idea. :)
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Re: Re: Protecting IP addresses from google
« Reply #39 on: September 15, 2018, 09:25:26 AM »
This forum also records all of our posts ... and there is enough data on here to know exactly who I am. So it is PII.

>what is a vpn?