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Re: Convex Earth Documentary
« Reply #160 on: March 30, 2018, 08:18:26 PM »
Haha brilliant Tom, the documentary uses GPS and exact distances between points, both data you refute can be proven ie your famous "distance between Paris and New York is unknown".....

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« Reply #161 on: March 30, 2018, 09:06:17 PM »
Haha brilliant Tom, the documentary uses GPS and exact distances between points, both data you refute can be proven ie your famous "distance between Paris and New York is unknown".....

Perhaps that's why it only received a "C" -- how dare they use accurate distances!

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Re: Convex Earth Documentary
« Reply #162 on: March 30, 2018, 09:21:53 PM »

Perhaps that's why it only received a "C" -- how dare they use accurate distances!

Although not so accurate when it came to the lasers and telescopes being "about a metre or so" above the water level.....



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« Reply #163 on: March 30, 2018, 11:02:29 PM »
It was interesting, but certainly the second half dropped off a bit. I'm still not sure how they concluded there was another continent, but they said they want to find it so if they could it would be a manor discovery. However, I don't believe they will find anything.

As for the earth being convex, I'm still not sure how they came to that reasoning, nor where they got that design of the earth from. The continent's were sort of jumbled up and it looked untidy.

Despite being a flat earther, I do believe in gravity. Believe it or not, it does not disprove the FET. It seems to be a more modern thing that gravity doesn't exist, it really does.

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« Reply #164 on: March 31, 2018, 06:06:18 AM »
It was of the ilk of those documentaries that set up an eye catching proposition like; "Did Hitler use vampires to battle the Russians? " And then the show skirts around the issue for an hour and concludes with an answer of "we don't know".....
The  experiments did not seem to be conducted thoroughly enough for the magnitude of their hypothesis. However it was entertainment, which is the point I guess.

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« Reply #165 on: March 31, 2018, 06:08:53 AM »
It was interesting, but certainly the second half dropped off a bit. I'm still not sure how they concluded there was another continent, but they said they want to find it so if they could it would be a manor discovery. However, I don't believe they will find anything.

As for the earth being convex, I'm still not sure how they came to that reasoning, nor where they got that design of the earth from. The continent's were sort of jumbled up and it looked untidy.

Despite being a flat earther, I do believe in gravity. Believe it or not, it does not disprove the FET. It seems to be a more modern thing that gravity doesn't exist, it really does.

Yes, gravity certainly does disprove FET. Why else would folks need to come up with something as wild as UA?

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Re: Convex Earth Documentary
« Reply #166 on: March 31, 2018, 06:21:00 AM »

Yes, gravity certainly does disprove FET. Why else would folks need to come up with something as wild as UA?

Ahh but then in steps the infinite plane model which can be used to explain it....

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« Reply #167 on: March 31, 2018, 09:06:37 AM »
It was interesting, but certainly the second half dropped off a bit. I'm still not sure how they concluded there was another continent, but they said they want to find it so if they could it would be a manor discovery. However, I don't believe they will find anything.

As for the earth being convex, I'm still not sure how they came to that reasoning, nor where they got that design of the earth from. The continent's were sort of jumbled up and it looked untidy.

Despite being a flat earther, I do believe in gravity. Believe it or not, it does not disprove the FET. It seems to be a more modern thing that gravity doesn't exist, it really does.

Yes, gravity certainly does disprove FET. Why else would folks need to come up with something as wild as UA?
No it doesn't, there's no definite proof gravity pulls things into a ball, it's only a theory and cannot be proved because it's an incorrect theory. The force of gravity does not only come from the centre, it exists all underneath the world, so with the force pulling down on all points it cannot possibly pull everything into a ball because the force of gravity is spread evenly across the world.

Even Dr Rowbotham didn't disprove gravity, he acknowledged it's existence.

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Re: Convex Earth Documentary
« Reply #168 on: March 31, 2018, 09:17:29 AM »
But gravity does explain why all the planets and stars we see are balls. Whilst UA offers an explanation equal to gravity for earth it doesn't explain the rest of the universe

Re: Convex Earth Documentary
« Reply #169 on: March 31, 2018, 09:41:33 AM »
It was interesting, but certainly the second half dropped off a bit. I'm still not sure how they concluded there was another continent, but they said they want to find it so if they could it would be a manor discovery. However, I don't believe they will find anything.

As for the earth being convex, I'm still not sure how they came to that reasoning, nor where they got that design of the earth from. The continent's were sort of jumbled up and it looked untidy.

Despite being a flat earther, I do believe in gravity. Believe it or not, it does not disprove the FET. It seems to be a more modern thing that gravity doesn't exist, it really does.

Yes, gravity certainly does disprove FET. Why else would folks need to come up with something as wild as UA?
No it doesn't, there's no definite proof gravity pulls things into a ball, it's only a theory and cannot be proved because it's an incorrect theory. The force of gravity does not only come from the centre, it exists all underneath the world, so with the force pulling down on all points it cannot possibly pull everything into a ball because the force of gravity is spread evenly across the world.

Even Dr Rowbotham didn't disprove gravity, he acknowledged it's existence.

Gravity (using the commonly accepted definition of gravity) certainly does go against FET.

If you are unilaterally going to make up a force with different properties to those ascribed to gravity and name it gravity as well that's up to you, but you can't expect others to just go along with that.

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« Reply #170 on: March 31, 2018, 10:08:21 AM »
It was interesting, but certainly the second half dropped off a bit. I'm still not sure how they concluded there was another continent, but they said they want to find it so if they could it would be a manor discovery. However, I don't believe they will find anything.

As for the earth being convex, I'm still not sure how they came to that reasoning, nor where they got that design of the earth from. The continent's were sort of jumbled up and it looked untidy.

Despite being a flat earther, I do believe in gravity. Believe it or not, it does not disprove the FET. It seems to be a more modern thing that gravity doesn't exist, it really does.

Yes, gravity certainly does disprove FET. Why else would folks need to come up with something as wild as UA?
No it doesn't, there's no definite proof gravity pulls things into a ball, it's only a theory and cannot be proved because it's an incorrect theory. The force of gravity does not only come from the centre, it exists all underneath the world, so with the force pulling down on all points it cannot possibly pull everything into a ball because the force of gravity is spread evenly across the world.

Even Dr Rowbotham didn't disprove gravity, he acknowledged it's existence.

Gravity (using the commonly accepted definition of gravity) certainly does go against FET.

If you are unilaterally going to make up a force with different properties to those ascribed to gravity and name it gravity as well that's up to you, but you can't expect others to just go along with that.
I'm not 'making it up', the force of gravity is not scientifically proven to come from the core, its a theory. It is actually spread evenly underneath the earth, pulling down together. It is not only pulling down from the earths core.

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« Reply #171 on: March 31, 2018, 12:19:50 PM »
I'm not 'making it up', the force of gravity is not scientifically proven to come from the core, its a theory. It is actually spread evenly underneath the earth, pulling down together. It is not only pulling down from the earths core.

So .. the Earth has a 'core', even though it's flat?

Have you determined whereabouts the core is? How did you or anyone else do this?
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« Reply #172 on: March 31, 2018, 12:25:32 PM »
I'm not 'making it up', the force of gravity is not scientifically proven to come from the core, its a theory. It is actually spread evenly underneath the earth, pulling down together. It is not only pulling down from the earths core.

So .. the Earth has a 'core', even though it's flat?

Have you determined whereabouts the core is? How did you or anyone else do this?
No, that's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying on a round earth the force of gravity has not being scientifically proved to come from the core.

I'll say it now so you can't say I've claimed something else

Earth is flat and therefore has no core.

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« Reply #173 on: March 31, 2018, 01:15:44 PM »
I'm not 'making it up', the force of gravity is not scientifically proven to come from the core, its a theory. It is actually spread evenly underneath the earth, pulling down together. It is not only pulling down from the earths core.

So .. the Earth has a 'core', even though it's flat?

Have you determined whereabouts the core is? How did you or anyone else do this?
No, that's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying on a round earth the force of gravity has not being scientifically proved to come from the core.

I'll say it now so you can't say I've claimed something else

Earth is flat and therefore has no core.
Earth is round, see measurements.

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« Reply #174 on: March 31, 2018, 01:20:53 PM »
I'm not 'making it up', the force of gravity is not scientifically proven to come from the core, its a theory. It is actually spread evenly underneath the earth, pulling down together. It is not only pulling down from the earths core.

So .. the Earth has a 'core', even though it's flat?

Have you determined whereabouts the core is? How did you or anyone else do this?
No, that's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying on a round earth the force of gravity has not being scientifically proved to come from the core.

I'll say it now so you can't say I've claimed something else

Earth is flat and therefore has no core.
Earth is round see measurements.
Yet Dr Rowbotham was able to prove otherwise.

It's flat, see measurements.

Re: Convex Earth Documentary
« Reply #175 on: March 31, 2018, 02:02:41 PM »
It was interesting, but certainly the second half dropped off a bit. I'm still not sure how they concluded there was another continent, but they said they want to find it so if they could it would be a manor discovery. However, I don't believe they will find anything.

As for the earth being convex, I'm still not sure how they came to that reasoning, nor where they got that design of the earth from. The continent's were sort of jumbled up and it looked untidy.

Despite being a flat earther, I do believe in gravity. Believe it or not, it does not disprove the FET. It seems to be a more modern thing that gravity doesn't exist, it really does.

Yes, gravity certainly does disprove FET. Why else would folks need to come up with something as wild as UA?
No it doesn't, there's no definite proof gravity pulls things into a ball, it's only a theory and cannot be proved because it's an incorrect theory. The force of gravity does not only come from the centre, it exists all underneath the world, so with the force pulling down on all points it cannot possibly pull everything into a ball because the force of gravity is spread evenly across the world.

Even Dr Rowbotham didn't disprove gravity, he acknowledged it's existence.

Gravity (using the commonly accepted definition of gravity) certainly does go against FET.

If you are unilaterally going to make up a force with different properties to those ascribed to gravity and name it gravity as well that's up to you, but you can't expect others to just go along with that.
I'm not 'making it up', the force of gravity is not scientifically proven to come from the core, its a theory. It is actually spread evenly underneath the earth, pulling down together. It is not only pulling down from the earths core.

And that is an opinion you have arrived at given your personal understanding.

So like I said, you are creating another force that acts differently to how gravity is defined as working but calling it gravity.

I will go with the description of gravity that has some consensus rather than make up my own version or piggy back your version. But each to his own.

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« Reply #176 on: March 31, 2018, 02:04:07 PM »
It was interesting, but certainly the second half dropped off a bit. I'm still not sure how they concluded there was another continent, but they said they want to find it so if they could it would be a manor discovery. However, I don't believe they will find anything.

As for the earth being convex, I'm still not sure how they came to that reasoning, nor where they got that design of the earth from. The continent's were sort of jumbled up and it looked untidy.

Despite being a flat earther, I do believe in gravity. Believe it or not, it does not disprove the FET. It seems to be a more modern thing that gravity doesn't exist, it really does.

Yes, gravity certainly does disprove FET. Why else would folks need to come up with something as wild as UA?
No it doesn't, there's no definite proof gravity pulls things into a ball, it's only a theory and cannot be proved because it's an incorrect theory. The force of gravity does not only come from the centre, it exists all underneath the world, so with the force pulling down on all points it cannot possibly pull everything into a ball because the force of gravity is spread evenly across the world.

Even Dr Rowbotham didn't disprove gravity, he acknowledged it's existence.

Gravity (using the commonly accepted definition of gravity) certainly does go against FET.

If you are unilaterally going to make up a force with different properties to those ascribed to gravity and name it gravity as well that's up to you, but you can't expect others to just go along with that.
I'm not 'making it up', the force of gravity is not scientifically proven to come from the core, its a theory. It is actually spread evenly underneath the earth, pulling down together. It is not only pulling down from the earths core.

Can you prove this, scientifically?

Havre you even tried to provide a shred of evidence for a single claim you have made in the last few days?
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Re: Convex Earth Documentary
« Reply #177 on: March 31, 2018, 07:03:48 PM »
No one even knows what the mechanism for gravity is. There are only theories for how it works.

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« Reply #178 on: March 31, 2018, 07:47:59 PM »
No one even knows what the mechanism for gravity is. There are only theories for how it works.

Yes, there are 'only' scientific theories for how gravity works.

There is, however, diddly-squat for how an FE alternative would work, and even less to support whatever it is Parallax has invented.

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« Reply #179 on: March 31, 2018, 08:02:41 PM »
No one even knows what the mechanism for gravity is. There are only theories for how it works.

Yet we can measure it to the Nth degree, and calibrate measuring instruments to it...
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