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Possibly both ideas are correct
« on: March 05, 2018, 09:50:25 AM »
Einstein once asked if the moon was there only when it was being looked at. If I were writing a simulation program, I wouldnt bother generating anything that wasnt being observed by any of the sentient entities in the program at that time. It would also seem pointless to define anything not being immediately observed by any sentient entities in the program, like the earths shape. It also stands to reason that each sentient entity would not have to experience a similar reality, there probably isnt a fixed one. So to quote one of your members
The Earth can be any shape you want it
Any shape at all
Dark and cold or bright and warm
Long or thin or small

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Re: Possibly both ideas are correct
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2018, 10:19:33 AM »
So to quote one of your members
Who?
Read the FAQ before asking your question - chances are we already addressed it.
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Re: Possibly both ideas are correct
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2018, 02:33:27 PM »
If the universe is procedurally generated (you really have to stop watching Elon Musk talking bollocks), most of us never get much of the in game currency, we rarely level up, our characters stats start declining when we are only about a quarter of the way through the game, there is no option for lootboxes, no one has found invincibility or immortality cheats, the game goes on for decades and not much really happens. Its a pretty shit game for all the effort and I don't think anyone would choose to play compared with the other triple A titles that must be available to sentient beings.
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Re: Possibly both ideas are correct
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2018, 05:19:44 PM »
If the universe is procedurally generated (you really have to stop watching Elon Musk talking bollocks), most of us never get much of the in game currency, we rarely level up, our characters stats start declining when we are only about a quarter of the way through the game, there is no option for lootboxes, no one has found invincibility or immortality cheats, the game goes on for decades and not much really happens. Its a pretty shit game for all the effort and I don't think anyone would choose to play compared with the other triple A titles that must be available to sentient beings.


I have no idea what you just said or the point you were trying to make.

Can you please clarify or summarize in simpler terms?

Thanks.

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Re: Possibly both ideas are correct
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2018, 05:35:22 PM »
Who? only member 00001.

Elon Musk was just acknowledging Nick Bostroms paper

https://www.simulation-argument.com/simulation.pdf

which, in itself does not state anything other than three mutually exclusive options (you have to choose one....unless you can think of another alternative)
In terms of this simulation/game, I think it is quite interesting, it generated you and me and this discussion, which beats minecraft hands down and suprisingly minecraft is popular.

I see little reason to run simulations of life, why not run simulations of an alternative or simplified life eg 3 dimensions space, one of time (US!....outside our simulation things may be incomprehensible, just adding one more dimension of space screws with your mind)
We can choose the many worlds interpretation or the Copenhagen interpretation. The latter with its associated experiments lends itself to the simulation hypothesis. It is constructed for us to perceive, that is why observation affects results.
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