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What exists at 2.537 million light years away from the Earth?
« on: February 07, 2018, 09:49:59 AM »
Globe model includes Universe.
Flat model denies it.

Globe model claims that at 2.537 million light years away is Andromeda Galaxy.
Flat model claims that Andromeda galaxy doesn't exist that way.

People who know Flat model well would know what exists at 2.537 million light years from Earth.
If it is not Andromeda galaxy, then what is there instead?

Globe Earthers, please don't pretend that you know what Flat model says for such distances. What you know is from Globe model.
Flat Earthers will know better what is there in Flat model.
This question is for them.

Offline Scroogie

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Re: What exists at 2.537 million light years away from the Earth?
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2018, 04:14:07 AM »
This is a very good question, one deserving of an answer. I, too, would be very interested in that answer.

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Re: What exists at 2.537 million light years away from the Earth?
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2018, 04:57:20 AM »
I think the answer would be "we don't know"; after all, they do assert that the stars are not many light-years away. I believe this is because otherwise parallax measurements would demonstrate the roundness of the Earth and also because the FE idea that the distant stars make pendulums precess on Earth is quite absurd.

Offline Sydney

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Re: What exists at 2.537 million light years away from the Earth?
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2018, 06:21:19 AM »
Globe model includes Universe.
OK. Prove it is out there.
Flat model denies it.
It seems I just did.

Globe model claims that at 2.537 million light years away is Andromeda Galaxy.
Yes... they perhaps do. Have they ever been to this theoretical place?
Flat model claims that Andromeda galaxy doesn't exist that way.
Indeed!

People who know Flat model well would know what exists at 2.537 million light years from Earth.
How might we know, and cite something to lend credence to this assumption.
If it is not Andromeda galaxy, then what is there instead?
Who knows in fact and truth?

Globe Earthers, please don't pretend that you know what Flat model says for such distances. What you know is from Globe model.
Flat Earthers will know better what is there in Flat model.
This question is for them.

All I know is what Yahweh said through the words of Moses in the Book of Genesis:

Light Without a Named Source Came First (on the first day or age)
Gen 1:3  And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
Gen 1:4  And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
Gen 1:5  And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Notice God said "Let there be...". The word make, create or form is not used. His spoken word brought light into being.


Lights in the Firmament Came Second (on the fourth day. or age)
Gen 1:14  And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
Gen 1:15  And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
Gen 1:16  And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
Gen 1:17  And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
Gen 1:18  And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
Gen 1:19  And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

It is written that these lights were set into the Firmament.

Strong's Concordance H7549 רקיע for the word 'Firmament' (Hebrew: râqı̂ya raw-kee'-ah) is as follows:
From H7554; properly an expanse, that is, the firmament or (apparently) visible arch of the sky: - firmament.

H7554 (from above reference) רקע râqa‛ raw-kah'
A primitive root; to pound the earth (as a sign of passion); by analogy to expand (by hammering); by implication to overlay (with thin sheets of metal): - beat, make broad, spread abroad (forth, over, out, into plates), stamp, stretch.

Since there is no empirical evidence of ever being out so far as to reach the "firmament" surface and document it, then what makes you so sure that there is no LED barrier and that you can project yourself or an object outwards from the earth for infinite?

What... is man able to imagine Yahweh away with his own understanding, or lack thereof?


 

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Re: What exists at 2.537 million light years away from the Earth?
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2018, 12:32:31 AM »
I have always believed that God would not put that thing up there that looks like Andromeda galaxy unless He wanted us to believe it is Andromeda galaxy.  He gave us free will and it would not be nice if there were a lot of tricks out there to make us believe one thing when another was actually true. God saw that it was good, not that it was all a trick to deceive us.