Offline Kjones

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Questions about the flat earth
« on: December 06, 2017, 09:42:59 PM »
So I'll start this off by saying that up until a month ago, I had no idea that flat earth theory was even a thing, but I suppose I should have guessed at it, what with there being theories about all sorts of stuff far more outlandish that this. However, I'm left with a few questions, and commenting on the YouTube videos I watched didn't produce any helpful answers. To be honest, a lot of them didn't make sense, but I'm not sure if that's a language barrier, the person not really knowing what they're on about, or something else. Being curious about stuff like this, I figured it might be an idea to post questions here, where I assume there are people who know the theory they're on about - experts in their field, so to speak. I should probably say that I find most, if not all of this, a little unbelievable, to the point where I'm not sure if the video makers were just putting in their own bits because they personally thought they were true, or if they are actually pieces of flat earth theory.

One video I looked at said gravity wasn't a thing, and that the earth (which was a disc) was rising at a pace of 9.8m/s (or whatever gravity is). If this is the case, why do all the planets move at the same speed, or thereabouts?

How thick is the earth supposed to be? And what's underneath it?

If the earth is flat, how is it winter in England, but summer in Australia? I've lived in both these countries, so I know that it isn't a scam or something. One guy tried to tell me Australia wasn't real, which I don't beleive, on account of me having lived there.

Why do photos of the horizon at high altitudes appear as curved?

On photos of the globe from space, why do continents 'go behind' the flat earth?

Why isn't it sunny all the time? Shouldn't the sun just light everywhere up?

I realise that those are bunch of random questions, but I'd quite like the answers to them, not in any mean-spirited 'I know you have no real proof' way, but out of genuine curiosity. But anyways, a few of the videos referenced a 'dome' of some sort, which I think is meant to refer to something that isn't quite a dome. Someone told me it was made out of electromagnetic energy, but I'm fairly certain electromagnetism doesn't work like that... And if it was made out of glass, or some space age plastic, then it would have to be man made, and I'm sure we'd have photos of guys on a ladder making the dome. Or crane. So how does the dome work exactly? And where does it come down? Unlike the lies I was told about rainbows as a child, surely I can find the edge of it if I just pick a direction and walk in it (hypothetically speaking. We're presuming I could bypass mountains/oceans, and endure cold and heat all all the other logistical issues that would crop up).

And my last one (probably won't be my last one), is that if the flat earth/round earth is meant to be a conspiracy, why is the government hiding it? What do they have to gain?

Anyways, those of my questions (for now). I appreciate that they're a bit random, but like I said, I'd quite like some answers to them. I realise I could have googled it, but there's no fun in that, and at least if I'm 'talking' to people, I can have it better explained to me. As a last bit, a lot of evidence seems to burden of proof, as in 'I don't need to prove it, you need to disprove it'. Personally, I don't view this as evidence, on account that I could claim the earth is a pyramid shape and there be 'evidence'. So if you're planning to whip out evidence that you want me to disprove, then I'm sorry, but it doesn't mean much to me.

Anyways, I've started off civil and amicable, so I'd appreciate it if any responses were the same. I know people don't like their beliefs being questioned. (It seems to have struck off the last paragraph or two. Not sure why. They're still relevant).
« Last Edit: December 06, 2017, 09:45:57 PM by Kjones »

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Re: Questions about the flat earth
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2017, 01:19:19 AM »
I can't say I understand everything either. But I will do my best to help out by answering what I think I can.


One video I looked at said gravity wasn't a thing, and that the earth (which was a disc) was rising at a pace of 9.8m/s (or whatever gravity is). If this is the case, why do all the planets move at the same speed, or thereabouts?

This site's thinking says that the earth is special. There is "celestial gravitation". But it does not apply to earth. Small correction to your question in that the earth is accelerating at 9.81 m/s^2. I don't understand exactly where the sun, moon, and everything else is thought to be or what explains the apparent movement in the observed sky. Tom Bishop here says there is no firmament, which is one FE proposal (the firmament has the celestial bodies as little lights moving around a dome). You might want to look at (but please don't comment on) this current thread.

One thing I have gathered is that the sun is thought to be a few thousand miles away (less than the size of the earth). I have been trying to do a simple review of the Wiki article on Eratosthenes to understand and confirm this better, but I have not got a lot of help.


How thick is the earth supposed to be? And what's underneath it?

I don't think this site has a position on that.


If the earth is flat, how is it winter in England, but summer in Australia? I've lived in both these countries, so I know that it isn't a scam or something. One guy tried to tell me Australia wasn't real, which I don't beleive, on account of me having lived there.

I don't know yet.


Why do photos of the horizon at high altitudes appear as curved?


I personally have some quibble with that. The horizon is always a full circle (just look downward). It shrinks in its apparent angle of your field of vision as you leave the earth, starting very, very close to 180 degrees.



On photos of the globe from space, why do continents 'go behind' the flat earth?


This site believes that's all a hoax. All of humanity, all nations, all commerce. It's all a hoax.


Why isn't it sunny all the time? Shouldn't the sun just light everywhere up?


This is hard to pin down. I think have heard Tom Bishop say in the thread I linked that the sun shines in all directions. Apparently they think that if the sun is far enough away it appears to sink below the horizon? Sorry I'm not much help there.


I realise that those are bunch of random questions, but I'd quite like the answers to them, not in any mean-spirited 'I know you have no real proof' way, but out of genuine curiosity.

Anyways, I've started off civil and amicable, so I'd appreciate it if any responses were the same. I know people don't like their beliefs being questioned. (It seems to have struck off the last paragraph or two. Not sure why. They're still relevant).

Thanks for your civility. See my signature also.
« Last Edit: December 07, 2017, 01:26:31 AM by Tom Haws »
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Thanks to Tom Bishop for his courtesy.

No flat map can predict commercial airline flight times among New York, Paris, Cape Town, & Buenos Aires.

The FAQ Sun animation does not work with sundials. And it has the equinox sun set toward Seattle (well N of NW) at my house in Mesa, AZ.