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Re: Quantum Physics and Flat Earth
« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2017, 09:51:24 PM »
junker we're having an educated conversation. If you're angry that this isn't "relevant" then move it somewhere you think is better instead of derailing the thread.

Why would I move it? I’m interested in this on-topic discussion of QM. How am I derailing the thread? Do you actually have any understanding of the basic principles of QM?

I’ll actually ask you to refrain from making posts that don’t contribute anything to the topic. Consider this an unofficial, friendly warning.

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Re: Quantum Physics and Flat Earth
« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2017, 10:06:59 PM »
I answered Havonii's question about the Flat Earth Society, which is more than you've done in this thread, which amounts to being critical and argumentative about things off-topic. But, since I know you're going to respond to this, I'm just going to leave this thread so hopefully this thread can return to an "on-topic" state like it was before you came.

Got the warning, but since you're contributing less to the thread than me, I'm probably not going to take it as a serious warning from a serious mod.

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Re: Quantum Physics and Flat Earth
« Reply #22 on: December 06, 2017, 10:09:31 PM »
I answered Havonii's question about the Flat Earth Society, which is more than you've done in this thread, which amounts to being critical and argumentative about things off-topic. But, since I know you're going to respond to this, I'm just going to leave this thread so hopefully this thread can return to an "on-topic" state like it was before you came.

Got the warning, but since you're contributing less to the thread than me, I'm probably not going to take it as a serious warning from a serious mod.

Thank you for acknowledging you don’t know the basic principles of QM. Have a good one.


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Re: Quantum Physics and Flat Earth
« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2017, 07:45:58 PM »

 Quantum physics has shown us that the atom can appear as a particle or a wave and displays characteristics of both simultaneously. The wave is all possibility until it “collapses” (due to our observation and intent- see Observer Effect - https://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=125449 ) into a particle and solidifies.

Is it possible that FE people are looking at the “wave” aspect of the atom rather than the “particle” aspect?

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Re: Quantum Physics and Flat Earth
« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2017, 08:21:57 PM »

 Quantum physics has shown us that the atom can appear as a particle or a wave and displays characteristics of both simultaneously. The wave is all possibility until it “collapses” (due to our observation and intent- see Observer Effect - https://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=125449 ) into a particle and solidifies.

Is it possible that FE people are looking at the “wave” aspect of the atom rather than the “particle” aspect?

Just a slight correction - it isn't the atom that exhibits this duality, it is smaller particles. (photons/electrons) For example, electrons exist as a cloud around the nucleus with a probability to exist at any certain point. It is only when they are forced to "decide" on a location that they do so.
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Re: Quantum Physics and Flat Earth
« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2017, 08:25:35 PM »
Everything is a wave. You and I and atoms are waves. But the waviness governs only generally at tiny subatomic levels.
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Re: Quantum Physics and Flat Earth
« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2017, 05:58:03 AM »
Everything is a wave. You and I and atoms are waves. But the waviness governs only generally at tiny subatomic levels.


Exactly, all matter, inhibits wave-like attributes. On quantum levels (extremely small and precise) these attributes are significantly more noticeable.

Each molecule in existence vibrates in specific patterns.

It's as if the universe has a favorite song and is beating to its rhythm.
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Re: Quantum Physics and Flat Earth
« Reply #27 on: December 09, 2017, 05:23:41 AM »
And as this wave theory stands, without observation, each atom takes the form of probability waves, becoming distributed or 'smeared' across what theoretically could be an infinite distance.

Is it possible that FE could be taking this theory and placing it into another perspective of our reality?     

Saying that, until observed, our reality is infinite, that our Earth is distributed infinitely across the fabric of space?
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