Solar Eclipse
« on: August 23, 2017, 03:22:28 AM »
Hello everyone. I just recently became a Flat Earther. With the solar eclipse happening yesterday, I became curious about the "special glasses". With NASA lying about almost everything, I feel as though NASA is lying about needing them as well. Of course, you can't stare at the sun for long periods on any given day. But what makes the solar eclipse so special to the point that people can't look at it without having some sort of negative reaction? I saw some Flat Earthers on Twitter discussing the glasses and claiming that NASA is trying to hide the truth by using the glasses. I'm just curious about what you all think. Do you believe what they say? Do you think they are trying to hide something? And did any of you look at the eclipse without the eclipse glasses?

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Re: Solar Eclipse
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2017, 03:44:35 AM »
You could also use #14 welding goggles. I guess NASA faked those, as well. Also, NASA doesn't make the glasses. They just say don't be stupid and stare at the sun, which apparently is something flat Earthers need reminded of.

As for what makes the solar eclipse different, nothing. It is still absolutely the same unless you are in totality, but that only lasts a couple minutes. The Sun is still every bit as bright in the parts that aren't blocked by the moon and will still damage your eyes. It was about 80% covered where I was and while it was a bit darker out, the sun was still overpowering to glance at.
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Re: Solar Eclipse
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2017, 04:05:33 AM »
I became curious about the "special glasses".
Dark filters.... yep.  Pretty spooky stuff.

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With NASA lying about almost everything, I feel as though NASA is lying about needing them as well.
I mean, if you don't want to go blind...

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Of course, you can't stare at the sun for long periods on any given day.
So short periods are ok?

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But what makes the solar eclipse so special to the point that people can't look at it without having some sort of negative reaction?
What negative reaction?

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I saw some Flat Earthers on Twitter discussing the glasses and claiming that NASA is trying to hide the truth by using the glasses.
Or using the glasses so you can view it.

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I'm just curious about what you all think. Do you believe what they say? Do you think they are trying to hide something?
My friends got their glasses from the credit union, so they must be in on it too.  Yes.  No.

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And did any of you look at the eclipse without the eclipse glasses?
Yes, during totality.

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Re: Solar Eclipse
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2017, 02:41:44 PM »
Hello everyone. I just recently became a Flat Earther. With the solar eclipse happening yesterday, I became curious about the "special glasses". With NASA lying about almost everything, I feel as though NASA is lying about needing them as well. Of course, you can't stare at the sun for long periods on any given day. But what makes the solar eclipse so special to the point that people can't look at it without having some sort of negative reaction? I saw some Flat Earthers on Twitter discussing the glasses and claiming that NASA is trying to hide the truth by using the glasses. I'm just curious about what you all think. Do you believe what they say? Do you think they are trying to hide something? And did any of you look at the eclipse without the eclipse glasses?

My only advice to you is this.  Try and use logic and reason when thinking about a flat earth.  Ask yourself these.  Why would NASA try to trick you?  What possible gains would they get from tricking you?   Why would they not just shift to studying a closed system as described by FE?  Would it not be infinitely more interesting if the sun and the moon were only 3000 miles away? 

What drives science is the concept of "interesting".   Not conspiracy.    Mankind has explored the world as long an we have been here.   
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Re: Solar Eclipse
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2017, 06:29:17 PM »
I was at a casino during the eclipse and the canopy over the valet parking area had a glass type structure over it which looked similar to a "polarized" glass. You could view the eclipse readily as many were, employees continuously. I peaked briefly and then used the glasses normally I had purchased.

It seemed much safer with the glasses and the detail seemed much more clear.
What kind of person would devote endless hours posting scientific facts trying to correct the few retards who believe in the FE? I slay shitty little demons.

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Re: Solar Eclipse
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2017, 06:43:26 AM »
...Of course, you can't stare at the sun for long periods on any given day. But what makes the solar eclipse so special to the point that people can't look at it without having some sort of negative reaction?
Nothing.  The eclipse doesn't suddenly make it dangerous to look, it's always dangerous.  What the eclipse does is make it tempting to look.  Now that the eclipse is over, there's nothing to see and nobody is tempted to look.  But you could, on any day of the year, safely look at the sun with eclipse glasses.

...did any of you look at the eclipse without the eclipse glasses?
I looked DURING totality only, when the corona was the only part of the sun that was visible.  I had solar filters on my camera and binoculars, and when the last sliver of sun vanished, I looked at the sun without filters.  Other than that, I certainly hope nobody did what you suggest.  I may argue and fight with you FE types, but that doesn't mean I actually bear you any ill will.  I definitely wouldn't wish blindness on any of you.
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Re: Solar Eclipse
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2017, 10:22:07 AM »
The whole thing about glasses and becoming blind after observing an eclipse is probably another indoctrination we've been overfed with to become fearful and not ask questions.
All the statistics, reports about blindness rate can and will be rigged. It's not so hard to fake something, if you have a lot of money and squeeze socio-economical status of humans working in related organizations.
If you practice sungazing regularly, the eclipse won't do nothing to your vision, also it could be, but less possible, an egregore thing.

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Re: Solar Eclipse
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2017, 12:16:45 PM »
The whole thing about glasses and becoming blind after observing an eclipse is probably another indoctrination we've been overfed with to become fearful and not ask questions.
All the statistics, reports about blindness rate can and will be rigged. It's not so hard to fake something, if you have a lot of money and squeeze socio-economical status of humans working in related organizations.
If you practice sungazing regularly, the eclipse won't do nothing to your vision, also it could be, but less possible, an egregore thing.

And this, folks, is why we had to listen to every news channel in the nation warn us for weeks not to look at the eclipse. Weirdos like this guy that think you can stare at the sun without damaging your eyes. Tell ya what, go outside at noon and stare at the sun for 30 seconds or so and let us know the results. (not that you'd be able to because the pain would cause you to look away) The sun is one of the easiest objects in the sky to study as long as you have a solar filter for your telescope. There is no freaking conspiracy about the sun. Spend a hundred dollars on a cheap solar telescope and see for yourself.
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Re: Solar Eclipse
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2017, 01:35:59 PM »
If you practice sungazing regularly, the eclipse won't do nothing to your vision
True, because you'll already be blind if you've been regularly looking at the sun, the eclipse would have no opportunity to do additional damage.

Kids, Hmmm is either a troll or an idiot.  Please do not take his/her words seriously.
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Re: Solar Eclipse
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2017, 04:03:43 PM »
If you practice sungazing regularly, the eclipse won't WILL do NOTHING to your vision
True, because you'll already be blind if you've been regularly looking at the sun, the eclipse would have no opportunity to do additional damage.

Kids, Hmmm is either a troll or an idiot.  Please do not take his/her words seriously.

If you do sun gazing without a filter, you will probably see NOTHING  afterwards.

Seriously :
Once again.:
Best place to do some sun gazing is at an observatory.
Some of them have special cameras with filters and with close-circuit tv's so you can see a large picture of the sun - eclipse or not - safely.

And maybe not to be taken so seriouly : ???
News Flash !
I read where a total eclipse will be visible in Texas in 2024.
A team of Texas A&M Aggies are planning a sun landing to land on the sun and explore the sun.
Just to be safe they plan to do this at night or during a total eclipse.
« Last Edit: August 24, 2017, 04:21:27 PM by geckothegeek »

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Re: Solar Eclipse
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2017, 06:16:24 PM »
If you practice sungazing regularly, the eclipse won't WILL do NOTHING to your vision
True, because you'll already be blind if you've been regularly looking at the sun, the eclipse would have no opportunity to do additional damage.

Kids, Hmmm is either a troll or an idiot.  Please do not take his/her words seriously.

If you do sun gazing without a filter, you will probably see NOTHING  afterwards.

Seriously :
Once again.:
Best place to do some sun gazing is at an observatory.
Some of them have special cameras with filters and with close-circuit tv's so you can see a large picture of the sun - eclipse or not - safely.

And maybe not to be taken so seriouly : ???
News Flash !
I read where a total eclipse will be visible in Texas in 2024.
A team of Texas A&M Aggies are planning a sun landing to land on the sun and explore the sun.
Just to be safe they plan to do this at night or during a total eclipse.

The 2024 is supposed to be a total here in Austin.  That will be awesome
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Re: Solar Eclipse
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2017, 06:29:36 PM »
Spend a hundred dollars on a cheap solar telescope and see for yourself.
$5 for a #14 or 15 welding lens and cheap compact binos will let you watch an eclipse, see sunspots, transits, etc.  Add a cheap point and shoot camera and something to steady the binos and you can get pictures as well. 

The 2024 is supposed to be a total here in Austin.  That will be awesome
Ever watched one before?  I drove about a hundred miles  (just checked on mapquest, 130 miles) south to watch it in Oregon.  Not having to go anywhere would be great.  I do have some relatives in Austin... I might even consider flying down there.
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Re: Solar Eclipse
« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2017, 08:06:41 PM »
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why we had to listen to every news channel in the nation warn us
StinkyOne, be aware(=beware) that usually news channels are just brainwashing us, and the human workers at news companies are even more heavily brainwashed and tricked than we are.

StinkyOne, i'm personally sungazing uninterruptedly literally everyday for hour and a half with blinking. And still nothing happened to me, and i don't want anything happening to me.
If i was blind, i wouldn't be here posting, i would have some sort of a long depression.
Why are you so afraid of looking at the sun with your bare eyes regularly?

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There is no freaking conspiracy about the sun.
I will never agree on that. I'm still researching both sun and moon. The conspiracy is that the sun is 80-100% artificial, not natural, technologically made plasma/hologram/complex system object(sun simulator) and it exists in multitudes(nibiru sightings). Instead of a sun, there is a "sun system", that consists of multiple of suns sometimes interchanging one another and working at a variable/constant looping paths above different regions of earth.

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Kids, Hmmm is either a troll or an idiot.  Please do not take his/her words seriously.
Rounder, i know that "kids" is just a locution, but it sounds so ironical, that you use it on the FE forum.
No, i'm sincere about being able capable of sungazing regularly for hours. It's not a problem for me.

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A team of Texas A&M Aggies are planning a sun landing to land on the sun and explore the sun.
Just to be safe they plan to do this at night or during a total eclipse.
geckothegeek, and why are they gonna plan to do this at night, is it because the sun "changes it's mode" and becomes darker-orange, less bright, less hot and visible, when looking at the sky at sunset? My argument/arguments might sound stupid, but consider it/them.

Re: Solar Eclipse
« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2017, 08:23:36 PM »
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why we had to listen to every news channel in the nation warn us
StinkyOne, be aware(=beware) that usually news channels are just brainwashing us, and the human workers at news companies are even more heavily brainwashed and tricked than we are.

StinkyOne, i'm personally sungazing uninterruptedly literally everyday for hour and a half with blinking. And still nothing happened to me, and i don't want anything happening to me.
If i was blind, i wouldn't be here posting, i would have some sort of a long depression.
Why are you so afraid of looking at the sun with your bare eyes regularly?

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There is no freaking conspiracy about the sun.
I will never agree on that. I'm still researching both sun and moon. The conspiracy is that the sun is 80-100% artificial, not natural, technologically made plasma/hologram/complex system object(sun simulator) and it exists in multitudes(nibiru sightings). Instead of a sun, there is a "sun system", that consists of multiple of suns sometimes interchanging one another and working at a variable/constant looping paths above different regions of earth.

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Kids, Hmmm is either a troll or an idiot.  Please do not take his/her words seriously.
Rounder, i know that "kids" is just a locution, but it sounds so ironical, that you use it on the FE forum.
No, i'm sincere about being able capable of sungazing regularly for hours. It's not a problem for me.

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A team of Texas A&M Aggies are planning a sun landing to land on the sun and explore the sun.
Just to be safe they plan to do this at night or during a total eclipse.
geckothegeek, and why are they gonna plan to do this at night, is it because the sun "changes it's mode" and becomes darker-orange, less bright, less hot and visible, when looking at the sky at sunset? My argument/arguments might sound stupid, but consider it/them.

Pics or it didn't (doesn't?) happen. Seriously. Any normal person will tell you it's painful to look directly at the sun, and for good reason. If you're doing it either you're lying (my personal guess), you think sungazing is something completely different than what is being described, you are actually using proper protective equipment, or you've actually damaged your eyes and you just think the way you view things is normal (likely a nice big central area you can't see). I suppose you could just be the lizard alien you claim world leaders are, attempting to throw everyone off the scent by acting like a loony though.

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Re: Solar Eclipse
« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2017, 08:42:13 PM »
Spend a hundred dollars on a cheap solar telescope and see for yourself.
$5 for a #14 or 15 welding lens and cheap compact binos will let you watch an eclipse, see sunspots, transits, etc.  Add a cheap point and shoot camera and something to steady the binos and you can get pictures as well. 

The 2024 is supposed to be a total here in Austin.  That will be awesome
Ever watched one before?  I drove about a hundred miles south to watch it in Oregon.  Not having to go anywhere would be great.  I do have some relatives in Austin... I might even consider flying down there.


I have never seen a total.  That will be cool.  This time we only had a tad under 70% so all we did was make a silly projector.  Next time I'll do some real optics.
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Re: Solar Eclipse
« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2017, 08:46:32 PM »
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why we had to listen to every news channel in the nation warn us
StinkyOne, be aware(=beware) that usually news channels are just brainwashing us, and the human workers at news companies are even more heavily brainwashed and tricked than we are.

StinkyOne, i'm personally sungazing uninterruptedly literally everyday for hour and a half with blinking. And still nothing happened to me, and i don't want anything happening to me.
If i was blind, i wouldn't be here posting, i would have some sort of a long depression.
Why are you so afraid of looking at the sun with your bare eyes regularly?

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There is no freaking conspiracy about the sun.
I will never agree on that. I'm still researching both sun and moon. The conspiracy is that the sun is 80-100% artificial, not natural, technologically made plasma/hologram/complex system object(sun simulator) and it exists in multitudes(nibiru sightings). Instead of a sun, there is a "sun system", that consists of multiple of suns sometimes interchanging one another and working at a variable/constant looping paths above different regions of earth.

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Kids, Hmmm is either a troll or an idiot.  Please do not take his/her words seriously.
Rounder, i know that "kids" is just a locution, but it sounds so ironical, that you use it on the FE forum.
No, i'm sincere about being able capable of sungazing regularly for hours. It's not a problem for me.

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A team of Texas A&M Aggies are planning a sun landing to land on the sun and explore the sun.
Just to be safe they plan to do this at night or during a total eclipse.
geckothegeek, and why are they gonna plan to do this at night, is it because the sun "changes it's mode" and becomes darker-orange, less bright, less hot and visible, when looking at the sky at sunset? My argument/arguments might sound stupid, but consider it/them.
Hmmm, I don't believe you stare at the Sun for an hour+ per day without blinking. I don't believe you can keep your eyes open for an hour without blinking regardless of what you're looking at. I can't tell if you're playing games with your comments, a weird, confused kid, or just plain "out there." The Sun doesn't change it's mode or become less hot. It doesn't change output by any appreciable amount and it never "goes out", so to speak. The sun is always up somewhere.
I saw a video where a pilot was flying above the sun.
-Terry50

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Re: Solar Eclipse
« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2017, 10:49:05 PM »
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why we had to listen to every news channel in the nation warn us
StinkyOne, be aware(=beware) that usually news channels are just brainwashing us, and the human workers at news companies are even more heavily brainwashed and tricked than we are.

StinkyOne, i'm personally sungazing uninterruptedly literally everyday for hour and a half with blinking. And still nothing happened to me, and i don't want anything happening to me.
If i was blind, i wouldn't be here posting, i would have some sort of a long depression.
Why are you so afraid of looking at the sun with your bare eyes regularly?

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There is no freaking conspiracy about the sun.
I will never agree on that. I'm still researching both sun and moon. The conspiracy is that the sun is 80-100% artificial, not natural, technologically made plasma/hologram/complex system object(sun simulator) and it exists in multitudes(nibiru sightings). Instead of a sun, there is a "sun system", that consists of multiple of suns sometimes interchanging one another and working at a variable/constant looping paths above different regions of earth.

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Kids, Hmmm is either a troll or an idiot.  Please do not take his/her words seriously.
Rounder, i know that "kids" is just a locution, but it sounds so ironical, that you use it on the FE forum.
No, i'm sincere about being able capable of sungazing regularly for hours. It's not a problem for me.

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A team of Texas A&M Aggies are planning a sun landing to land on the sun and explore the sun.
Just to be safe they plan to do this at night or during a total eclipse.
geckothegeek, and why are they gonna plan to do this at night, is it because the sun "changes it's mode" and becomes darker-orange, less bright, less hot and visible, when looking at the sky at sunset? My argument/arguments might sound stupid, but consider it/them. ;D ;D

Hmmm-
It's just an old, old, old  "Aggie Joke" that has been around for some time.  ;D
My apologies to all concerned for same.  ::)
Your arguments are lots less stupid than the joke. :)
Please don't take it seriously although I will admit it is a pretty seriously bad joke.  :P
Humor gets a bit weird at times at College Station as I am sure TomInAustin (are you a T-Sipper ?) will agree. ::)
« Last Edit: August 24, 2017, 11:13:00 PM by geckothegeek »

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Re: Solar Eclipse
« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2017, 11:23:19 PM »
If you practice sungazing regularly, the eclipse won't WILL do NOTHING to your vision
True, because you'll already be blind if you've been regularly looking at the sun, the eclipse would have no opportunity to do additional damage.

Kids, Hmmm is either a troll or an idiot.  Please do not take his/her words seriously.

If you do sun gazing without a filter, you will probably see NOTHING  afterwards.

Seriously :
Once again.:
Best place to do some sun gazing is at an observatory.
Some of them have special cameras with filters and with close-circuit tv's so you can see a large picture of the sun - eclipse or not - safely.

And maybe not to be taken so seriouly : ???
News Flash !
I read where a total eclipse will be visible in Texas in 2024.
A team of Texas A&M Aggies are planning a sun landing to land on the sun and explore the sun.
Just to be safe they plan to do this at night or during a total eclipse.

The 2024 is supposed to be a total here in Austin.  That will be awesome

Same here in Irving.
I didn't notice much difference in brightness here in Irving.
You could see the little "crescents" on the sidewalk  where the sun was shining through the leaves on the trees.
(Acting like pinhole cameras.)
« Last Edit: August 25, 2017, 12:51:43 AM by geckothegeek »

Re: Solar Eclipse
« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2017, 12:11:20 AM »
When someone looks at the sun your iris constricts because of the bright light, and this helps protect your eye from damage.
During an eclipse the moon has blocked out most of the visible light (the spectrum we can see),
in effect your eye will not constrict and can be damaged by UV and other light we cannot see.

I would not recommend looking at the sun for long periods of time with out proper filters.  I doubt looking at a solar eclipse for a few seconds with the bare eye will do any serious permanent damage.  It is not unrealistic to think that some dipshit may stair at an eclipse for 30 min or so and blind themselves.

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Re: Solar Eclipse
« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2017, 05:25:31 PM »
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why we had to listen to every news channel in the nation warn us
StinkyOne, be aware(=beware) that usually news channels are just brainwashing us, and the human workers at news companies are even more heavily brainwashed and tricked than we are.

StinkyOne, i'm personally sungazing uninterruptedly literally everyday for hour and a half with blinking. And still nothing happened to me, and i don't want anything happening to me.
If i was blind, i wouldn't be here posting, i would have some sort of a long depression.
Why are you so afraid of looking at the sun with your bare eyes regularly?

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There is no freaking conspiracy about the sun.
I will never agree on that. I'm still researching both sun and moon. The conspiracy is that the sun is 80-100% artificial, not natural, technologically made plasma/hologram/complex system object(sun simulator) and it exists in multitudes(nibiru sightings). Instead of a sun, there is a "sun system", that consists of multiple of suns sometimes interchanging one another and working at a variable/constant looping paths above different regions of earth.

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Kids, Hmmm is either a troll or an idiot.  Please do not take his/her words seriously.
Rounder, i know that "kids" is just a locution, but it sounds so ironical, that you use it on the FE forum.
No, i'm sincere about being able capable of sungazing regularly for hours. It's not a problem for me.

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A team of Texas A&M Aggies are planning a sun landing to land on the sun and explore the sun.
Just to be safe they plan to do this at night or during a total eclipse.
geckothegeek, and why are they gonna plan to do this at night, is it because the sun "changes it's mode" and becomes darker-orange, less bright, less hot and visible, when looking at the sky at sunset? My argument/arguments might sound stupid, but consider it/them. ;D ;D

Hmmm-
It's just an old, old, old  "Aggie Joke" that has been around for some time.  ;D
My apologies to all concerned for same.  ::)
Your arguments are lots less stupid than the joke. :)
Please don't take it seriously although I will admit it is a pretty seriously bad joke.  :P
Humor gets a bit weird at times at College Station as I am sure TomInAustin (are you a T-Sipper ?) will agree. ::)

Tsip here. 
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