[Lord Dave]

Cheaper?

You uhh... Do know that prices for American goods won't decrease, right?  They'll still be as expensive as they've been.

American goods are expensive in America because big business isn't investing in much automation infrastructure in America. In the last decades the investment focus is on the cheapest areas abroad. Sufficient tariffs will cause manufacturing to come back to America.

The US has the the right cards in doing this. The whole world is focused on grabbing at the consumer dollars in the US Market:

Bloomberg: U.S. Consumer Carries the World Economy, Says Baird's Antonelli

Reuters: Weight of world rests on US consumers' shoulders

See this table:

Wikipedia: List of largest consumer Markets

Household final consumption expenditure (HFCE)

Country	HFCE
	(millions of USD, nominal)
United States	21,081,812
European Union	9,860,153
China	6,720,652
Japan	2,320,919
Germany	2,215,427
France	2,155,988
India	2,140,000
United Kingdom	2,064,938
Brazil	1,311,778
Italy	1,280,149

I'm a mighty 21M in the USA, and AATW is a piddly 2M in the United Kingdom. He might as well be a homeless vagrant who has little money obtained from begging on the streets, as far as the interest is in big business to cater to his consumerism. Companies won't be cutting the US out any time soon. Trump is making sure that if they want to be competitive in the US Market, that they will invest in US infrastructure. It is only right that they manufacture here if they want our super dollars.

Other countries are not really in a position to force this kind of world-wide rearrangement in their favor, but the United States is.

So this won't bring back jobs as this will all be automated.  Good to know.

[garygreen]

lmao the trump admin (probably) used chatgpt to set the new tariffs. this is fucking insane.

https://www.ibtimes.com/trump-accused-using-chatgpt-create-tariff-plan-after-ai-leads-users-same-formula-so-ai-3768734

https://x.com/typesfast/status/1907600619420147833

thank god we didn't elect kamala, she would've been bad for the economy

[Lord Dave]

Hey so... Amidst all the stock crashes and what not... I realized something...


Why hasn't Gabbard revealed the existence of the space Lazer that destroyed Maui and LA, except the color Blue?  Wasn't that something she claimed was happening?

[Tom Bishop]

I am not sure what the point of all this whining is. Trump is implementing the tariffs I voted for. I don't care about rich multi-nationals losing money and Shane's bad retirement decisions, and neither does Trump.

https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1908230997960777819

[Lord Dave]

I am not sure what the point of all this whining is. Trump is implementing the tariffs I voted for. I don't care about rich multi-nationals losing money and Shane's bad retirement decisions, and neither does Trump.

https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/status/1908230997960777819

Not a coffee or tea drinker, I take it?

[honk]

As dopey as it is to even respond to the random MAGA idiot Tom posted, it's worth noting that the quote they're so gleeful about are the words of a Trump supporter trying to boost their boss to the media, not an anguished whistleblower, and certainly not the editorial stance of WaPo. Trump has spent his entire life being extremely sensitive to negative media coverage, and nothing we've seen in this new administration suggests that he suddenly doesn't care about it anymore. Of course he cares. It's too late to rebrand Trump as a manly stoic. He is what he is - obese, covered in makeup, a pampered rich kid who's never done a day of manual labor or faced physical danger in his life, and the least traditionally masculine president this country has ever had and almost certainly will ever have.

[Lord Dave]

As dopey as it is to even respond to the random MAGA idiot Tom posted, it's worth noting that the quote they're so gleeful about are the words of a Trump supporter trying to boost their boss to the media, not an anguished whistleblower, and certainly not the editorial stance of WaPo. Trump has spent his entire life being extremely sensitive to negative media coverage, and nothing we've seen in this new administration suggests that he suddenly doesn't care about it anymore. Of course he cares. It's too late to rebrand Trump as a manly stoic. He is what he is - obese, covered in makeup, a pampered rich kid who's never done a day of manual labor or faced physical danger in his life, and the least traditionally masculine president this country has ever had and almost certainly will ever have.

Gonna have to disagree.
He did McDonalds work for 10 minutes.  And he was shot once... In the ear.

He's also very American Masculine: Bitches while thinking acting tough while having money and followers is enough to be tough.

[AATW]

I am not sure what the point of all this whining is. Trump is implementing the tariffs I voted for.

So your take is:

Why are you whining that we have a moron in charge who is bolloxing everything up? I voted for the moron! I wanted a moron in charge!

Interesting position.

[Lord Dave]

I am not sure what the point of all this whining is. Trump is implementing the tariffs I voted for.

So your take is:

Why are you whining that we have a moron in charge who is bolloxing everything up? I voted for the moron! I wanted a moron in charge!

Interesting position.

Well, Tom does want to destroy America.  So it makes sense.

[Tom Bishop]

I am not sure what the point of all this whining is. Trump is implementing the tariffs I voted for.

So your take is:

Why are you whining that we have a moron in charge who is bolloxing everything up? I voted for the moron! I wanted a moron in charge!

Interesting position.

This is a funny statement, considering that your Prime Minister is bending the knee to Trump and is agreeing that globalization has failed.

https://twitter.com/LeadingReport/status/1908669880292827179

Meanwhile, the French leader has proposed to stop investments into the United States, to the reaction of rejection by business leaders.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2025/04/05/out-of-the-question-french-business-leaders-reject-macrons-call-to-stop-investments-in-united-states/



It seems to me that you are just going to bend over and take this.

[Action80]

Nobody is ever going to stop investing in the US. All of the naysaying globesters are out of a gig.

[honk]

This is a funny statement, considering that your Prime Minister is bending the knee to Trump and is agreeing that globalization has failed.

https://twitter.com/LeadingReport/status/1908669880292827179

That's a very disingenuous interpretation of the article this news actually comes from:

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/keir-starmer-to-admit-globalisation-has-failed-as-tariff-war-rages-s00b6wbcj

Starmer has of course yet to make his statement, but judging by this article, it's far from folding or "bending the knee" to Trump. It's simply responding to what Trump has done, with a few lines meant to appease Trump by saying that of course he totally understands why Trump did this and why people support him. And on that subject, as I've said before, Trump's desperate need to be constantly flattered and praised - and the fact that other world leaders have taken note of this and now regularly try to manipulate him with shallow lip service - is a sign of Trump's weakness, not his strength. Strong leaders don't need praise and flattery to feel secure in their decisions and perform their jobs competently, and they certainly don't let it sway their policies and decisions. Only a child would think that all the praise and flattery directed at Trump by world leaders means that they all really do respect and fear Trump far more than any other president before rather than the reality that Trump is simply very easy to manipulate with praise and flattery.

[Action80]

^ Written as if "praise and flattery," is something ever seen or experienced by Trump.

Nope, he is doing what he wants to do, which is what he feels is the correct thing to do, regardless.

Seems to be working.

6 trillion invested in the US, over 3 billion a day pouring into the Wealth fund.

[Lord Dave]

^ Written as if "praise and flattery," is something ever seen or experienced by Trump.

Nope, he is doing what he wants to do, which is what he feels is the correct thing to do, regardless.

Seems to be working.

6 trillion invested in the US, over 3 billion a day pouring into the Wealth fund.

The sovereign wealth fund that doesn't exist yet?

$6 Trillion over how many years?  How many companies?.. And how much has been lost?   He made the claim but needs to back it up with 'we only are investing because of Trump'

[Action80]

Over twenty states within the US already have a sovereign wealth fund, plus the plan for establishment of a federal fund has already been laid out and there is no reason to believe it will not be implemented.

Look up the numbers yourself.

[Action80]

I think it is a good thing that money will start making its way back to Main Street instead of Wall Street.

[Lord Dave]

Over twenty states within the US already have a sovereign wealth fund, plus the plan for establishment of a federal fund has already been laid out and there is no reason to believe it will not be implemented.

Look up the numbers yourself.

States, yes.  But the federal plan hasn't been implemented.
Also, you DO realize that the soverign wealth fund is an investment fund that uses the stock market, yes?  You know... Wallstreet?

Also:
11 states.  Only 11 states have them.  Mostly for education.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_sovereign_wealth_funds


But lets take one of those...
Lets pick Texas.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permanent_School_Fund

As of 2020 it was valued at $48.3 Billion.

As of August 2024 it is now $57.290 Billion
Considering that their revenue in 2024 was  $2.7 Billion, I'm questioning how you determined the $3 billion a day flowing into them.  Care to elaborate?




In other news...
https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/04/05/g-s1-58312/hhs-layoffs-rif-cdc-fda-nih

The confusion escalated through the week. Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. admitted about a fifth of the cuts were "mistakes," telling reporters on Thursday: "We're reinstating them. And that was always the plan," he said. "We talked about this from the beginning, [which] is we're going to do 80% cuts, but 20% of those are going to have to be reinstalled, because we'll make mistakes."

Among those "mistakes," Kennedy said, was the elimination of a division of CDC that, among other things, helps public health departments around the country address lead contamination in water. A massive testing effort was about to begin in Milwaukee's school system when CDC sent its notices.

By Friday afternoon, a day after Kennedy said the lead surveillance program was reinstated, officials in that division said they had heard nothing about resumption of the work, or plans to reinstate their jobs.

Apparently the plan is to make mistakes.  Like... they literally decided "Yeah, we're just gonna intentionally fuck up and fire people, without prior notice, and then just hire them back when we see it was a mistake." 

But I'm sure the Trump lovers are gonna say how this is a great plan and we should absolutely make all federal employees think their jobs can be taken away without notice and then given back without notice because uncertainty makes people work great!

[Action80]

Moreover, other SWFs within the United States already exist. More than 20 states, including Alaska, New Mexico, North Dakota, Texas, and Wyoming, have SWFs, some of which date back to the 19th century. Several Native American tribes and Alaska Native Corporations also have established (or are themselves) funds similar to SWFs.
It is over 20, as I stated. The sovereign wealth fund will grow, just like anything else has grown since the country's inception.

[Lord Dave]

Moreover, other SWFs within the United States already exist. More than 20 states, including Alaska, New Mexico, North Dakota, Texas, and Wyoming, have SWFs, some of which date back to the 19th century. Several Native American tribes and Alaska Native Corporations also have established (or are themselves) funds similar to SWFs.
It is over 20, as I stated. The sovereign wealth fund will grow, just like anything else has grown since the country's inception.

Ah, I think I see the confusion.
https://www.swfinstitute.org/profiles/sovereign-wealth-fund/north-america

My list was state managed ones.  Yours is not.  Yours includes native tribes and such.

That being said, they've been growing during Biden and likely will grow less now due to the stock crash.

[Action80]

Yeah, Native tribes do not reside in the US.

They do not deserve any money, mirite?

I am positive the confusion lies on the side of people absolutely cheering on for failure.

Keep on cheering for the failed policies we've been stuck with since the Fed was formed.

That would be you and all the rest of the globesters here.