[Action80]

So, when did Trump pay any money to Daniels?

[Lord Dave]

I guess I got it mixed up honk. :/. Or early reporting that got edited.

So, when did Trump pay any money to Daniels?

When he told his fixer to do it and he'll repay him.

I just don't understand why he bothered.  Not like the normal rules of politics apply to him.

[Action80]

I guess I got it mixed up honk. :/. Or early reporting that got edited.

So, when did Trump pay any money to Daniels?

When he told his fixer to do it and he'll repay him.

I just don't understand why he bothered.  Not like the normal rules of politics apply to him.

Gee, I guess that makes money he paid to Cohen after he was elected inadmissable.

Seems you were correct.

No need to apologize to Saddam.

[honk]

I guess I got it mixed up honk. :/. Or early reporting that got edited.

So, when did Trump pay any money to Daniels?

When he told his fixer to do it and he'll repay him.

I just don't understand why he bothered.  Not like the normal rules of politics apply to him.

Gee, I guess that makes money he paid to Cohen after he was elected inadmissable.

Seems you were correct.

No need to apologize to Saddam.

The crime was committed when the payment to Daniels was made without being declared, which was before Trump was elected. When Trump reimbursed Cohen is of limited relevance.

[Action80]

The crime was committed when the payment to Daniels was made without being declared, which was before Trump was elected. When Trump reimbursed Cohen is of limited relevance.

Wait...Cohen makes a payment...

How is Trump guilty because Cohen made a payment?

[Lord Dave]

The crime was committed when the payment to Daniels was made without being declared, which was before Trump was elected. When Trump reimbursed Cohen is of limited relevance.

Wait...Cohen makes a payment...

How is Trump guilty because Cohen made a payment?

Falsifying business records.

If I write "$50,000 for legal fees" but my lawyer never did lawyering during that time, that's illegal.

Again, had Trump written Stormy a check directly, he'd have been 100% legal and no issues.  It's when he tried to hide it that it became an issue.

[Action80]

The crime was committed when the payment to Daniels was made without being declared, which was before Trump was elected. When Trump reimbursed Cohen is of limited relevance.

Wait...Cohen makes a payment...

How is Trump guilty because Cohen made a payment?

Falsifying business records.

If I write "$50,000 for legal fees" but my lawyer never did lawyering during that time, that's illegal.

Again, had Trump written Stormy a check directly, he'd have been 100% legal and no issues.  It's when he tried to hide it that it became an issue.

Oh, so the crime is not what Saddam wrote it was...

Who the fuck is apologizing here!?!?

Do either of you know what the fuck it is you are writing about, or are you both so ignorant you got no fucking clue?

[AATW]

She still seems like a good pick to me.

What's that you say? Your cult leader did a thing and you think it's good? Amazing!
If she's that good why wasn't she his first choice?

[AATW]

Hooray! The President can do what the fuck he likes!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gvd7kxxj5o

[Action80]

The SCOTUS was very clear when they wrote the President cannot do whatever they like.

[Lord Dave]

No, they were not.
They wrote be has absolute immunity for actions while in office and within the scope of his presidential duties.  The. Failed to define what classifies his scope.

Example: Joe Biden has a cabinet meeting then, during the meeting, murders one of his cabinet members.  Is he immune?

[Dr Van Nostrand]

No, they were not.
They wrote be has absolute immunity for actions while in office and within the scope of his presidential duties.  The. Failed to define what classifies his scope.

Example: Joe Biden has a cabinet meeting then, during the meeting, murders one of his cabinet members.  Is he immune?

Unfortunately, Trump only has to appoint one more Supreme Court Justice and that will all change.

[garygreen]

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-promises-25-tariff-products-mexico-canada-2024-11-25/

the best way to make things cheaper is to make everything more expensive. lol imagine being such an idiot that you actually cast a ballot for this.

[Lord Dave]

Didn't he make the new NAFTA which would forbid Tarrifs like this for Canada and Mexico?

[Rushy]

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-promises-25-tariff-products-mexico-canada-2024-11-25/

the best way to make things cheaper is to make everything more expensive. lol imagine being such an idiot that you actually cast a ballot for this.

Yeah lol we should just keep letting our miners and manufacturers go bankrupt competing with subsidized Chinese firms lmao, who even needs steel or aluminum amirite?

[AATW]

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-promises-25-tariff-products-mexico-canada-2024-11-25/

the best way to make things cheaper is to make everything more expensive. lol imagine being such an idiot that you actually cast a ballot for this.

Isn't the argument that it makes foreign goods more expensive which increases demand for goods made in the good ole US of A?
Of course it probably means other countries will retaliate with tariffs of their own which will make it harder for the US to export goods.
So...overall... ¯\_(ツ)_/

[garygreen]

Isn't the argument that it makes foreign goods more expensive which increases demand for goods made in the good ole US of A?

that can be true, but it still just means those goods are now more expensive for everybody. if there's cheap chinese steel and expensive american steel, and if you artificially make chinese steel more expensive, then steel is now just...more expensive.

the idea is that you will increase local production and that will somehow automagically make up for the fact that ubiquitously vital goods like steel and aluminum are now more expensive for everybody. but the empirical evidence is overwhelming that this doesn't happen, and the effects are net-negative.

[Action80]

Could you at least post the "empirical evidence"?

[markjo]

Could you at least post the "empirical evidence"?

How's this?
https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/federal/section-232-tariffs-steel-aluminum-2024/

Key Findings

    The Section 232 tariffs on imports of steel and aluminum raised the cost of production for manufacturers, reducing employment in those industries, raising prices for consumers, and hurting exports.

    The jobs “saved” in the steel-producing industries from the tariffs came at a high cost to consumers, at roughly $650,000 per job saved according to the Peterson Institute for International Economics.

    A recent report from the U.S. International Trade Commission found that the tariffs increased the average prices of steel and aluminum by 2.4 percent and 1.6 percent, respectively, disproportionately hurting “downstream” industries that use steel and aluminum in their production processes.

[Lord Dave]

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvg7y52n411o

And now he threatened Mexico and Canada. (We have an illegal immigrants issue from Canada?)
Now...can someone tell me why or how Trump can impose Tarrifs on two countries that have a Free Trade Agreement with the US that Trump himself negotiated?